2500k worth an upgrade?

Bo$$ · Mar 25, 2015

SirKeldon said:
I could try to run WCG and CS:GO at the same time with all the rest, that will be the last test @peche And btw, what's cute? It's just the MacOS X default Activity Monitor app

Back to topic and jokes apart, I was tryin' to illustrate just a lighter multi-task scenario as the OP mentions and to show that my 2500K can do it smoothly, with no lags whatsoever, neither in Windows 7. Maybe as some others pointed and to repeat myself, adding RAM could benefit its system since browsers full of tabs nowadays eat tons of it, among other things.

thank you everyone!

More ram is the order of the day!

probably should also consider chrome XD firefox is using 1.8GB atm

xorbe · Mar 25, 2015

I am upgrading my 2500k to 4790k this week, as either my cpu or motherboard is failing from extreme overclocking most likely. It's been like 3-1/2 years, nothing lasts forever especially electrical components.

SirKeldon · Mar 25, 2015

Bo$$ said:
thank you everyone!

More ram is the order of the day!

probably should also consider chrome XD firefox is using 1.8GB atm

You're more than welcome, and it's just a suggestion, I could be wrong but you could see in my monitor that Chrome was eating more than 1,5-2GB just by itself (so no big diff from your Firefox) ... if you add a huge spreadsheet and a huge Word document while playing music with Spotify or iTunes, and knowing how Windows manages its memory, 8GB could be easily fulfilled and having to use swap frequently, maybe that's why you experience that lag after you open so many applications that are using the memory in an intense way, once memory starts swapping overall performance it's terribly degraded.

Bo$$ · Mar 25, 2015

can get some 2400mhz ram for cheap, gonna mix 8gb of that with my current stuff

INSTG8R · Mar 25, 2015

Bo$$ said:
can get some 2400mhz ram for cheap, gonna mix 8gb of that with my current stuff

It will default to the 1600 your other RAM runs at.

Kursah · Mar 25, 2015

Bo$$ said:
can get some 2400mhz ram for cheap, gonna mix 8gb of that with my current stuff

Honestly you're better off with more RAM than faster RAM in most situations you'll ever run into. 1600-1866 is a good sweet spot, even 2133, really beyond that, the return on investment goes WAAAAAY DOWN.

AsRock · Mar 25, 2015

Bo$$ said:
Thanks everyone!

I would not be changing the motherboard - saves me reinstalling windows

I think it'd only cost me like £50-80 to swap CPU (even for a 2600k or 3770k), since i'd be able to resell mine. so still not worth the bother?

As for overclocking I am sitting stable at 4.2GHZ, any higher and I get a crash (it might be the Beta UEFI bios I upgraded to).

I do have a watercooling loop sitting but my current case can't fit the radiators.

I use a 2500k and a 3770 and i would say it's not worth worth it. Firefox 50+ tabs ?, how much ram is that soaking up. Maybe consider cutting that down some, advertisers must love you.

FreedomEclipse · Mar 25, 2015

Would not upgrade, If you have a half decent board, id just overclock. my 2500k reached 4.9Ghz Ez im sure with more tweaking i could of hit 5Ghz but i couldnt be bothered. at 4.8-Ghz it will just chew through anything you throw at it

Bo$$ · Mar 25, 2015

FreedomEclipse said:
Would not upgrade, If you have a half decent board, id just overclock. my 2500k reached 4.9Ghz Ez im sure with more tweaking i could of hit 5Ghz but i couldnt be bothered. at 4.8-Ghz it will just chew through anything you throw at it

I don't, this board is trash if you ask me.

peche · Mar 25, 2015

Bo$$ said:
I don't, this board is trash if you ask me.

your own board is trash?

Schmuckley · Mar 25, 2015

Bo$$ said:
I don't, this board is trash if you ask me.

That is an A #1 Boot-Loop machine!

FreedomEclipse · Mar 25, 2015

Bo$$ said:
I don't, this board is trash if you ask me.

Money would be better spent trying to source a secondhand Z68 or Z77 motherboard IMO. Once you got a decent board, that CPU will FLY

SirKeldon · Mar 25, 2015

Schmuckley said:
That is an A #1 Boot-Loop machine!

Yeah, old BIOS versions were a fucking nightmare due to that, luckily with the F6 one I never experienced any unless it was really a true OC problem not being able to boot with that settings, and nothing more than the 2 usual boot-ups after a failed overclock.

Bo$$ said:
I don't, this board is trash if you ask me.

peche said:
your own board is trash?

I wouldn't consider it as trash 100% (cause it served loyally to me all those years

) but definitely not the best board to get a stable OC beyond 4.5 due to the LLC circuit design. I'd rate it as "stuff that doesn't suck that hard" :laugh:

peche · Mar 25, 2015

SirKeldon said:
I wouldn't consider it as trash 100% (cause it served loyally to me all those years ) but definitely not the best board to get a stable OC beyond 4.5 due to the LLC circuit design. I'd rate it as "stuff that doesn't suck that hard"

i was asking

but also i can told that my board GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Rev. 1.1 has been mantain a stable overclock with a 2500K to 5.0ghz .... like a year ago, also on a 3770K too ... i an remamber voltage but it could !
thats why i love gigabyte

Regards,

vega22 · Mar 25, 2015

my ud4 was cool as long as i left xmp off.

turn that on and it was boot loop city too xD

never had any trouble getting my 25 or 26k to 5ghz

Axaion · Mar 25, 2015

Bo$$ said:
thank you everyone!

More ram is the order of the day!

probably should also consider chrome XD firefox is using 1.8GB atm

Actually, Firefox is MUCH better when you start to use more tabs than 8 as far as i recall.

The 75 processes tells me you have some other stuff going on in the background that messes with your system

my own 2500k hits 4.5ghz on 1.303v (if i leave it on stock voltage it derps to 1.298v, so meh)

However, my case has crap airflow, so it still hits 67c under prime95/ Intel burn test

75 is a lot of processes though..

SirKeldon · Mar 26, 2015

peche said:
i was asking
but also i can told that my board GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Rev. 1.1 has been mantain a stable overclock with a 2500K to 5.0ghz .... like a year ago, also on a 3770K too ... i an remamber voltage but it could !
thats why i love gigabyte

Regards,

Yup, I love Gigabyte as well since EP45-Extreme, and I know you were asking, but I had to quote you both, peace bro

marsey99 said:
my ud4 was cool as long as i left xmp off.

turn that on and it was boot loop city too xD

never had any trouble getting my 25 or 26k to 5ghz

Maybe it's my chip cause i didn't tried to get all the juice from it yet (currently stable at 4.4GHz at 1.308V) but I read a lot of people having troubles with this board and LLC levels in newer BIOS versions (happened to me as well) that didn't happen with previous ones, unfortunately, I always had XMP off and I had the issue with boot loop frequently, that's why I decided to stick into the last stable non-UEFI one, despite I knew they were "worst" for higher stable OC's precisely due to that. Just my experience though :toast:

Bo$$ · Mar 26, 2015

SirKeldon said:
Yup, I love Gigabyte as well since EP45-Extreme, and I know you were asking, but I had to quote you both, peace bro

Maybe it's my chip cause i didn't tried to get all the juice from it yet (currently stable at 4.4GHz at 1.308V) but I read a lot of people having troubles with this board and LLC levels in newer BIOS versions (happened to me as well) that didn't happen with previous ones, unfortunately, I always had XMP off and I had the issue with boot loop frequently, that's why I decided to stick into the last stable non-UEFI one, despite I knew they were "worst" for higher stable OC's precisely due to that. Just my experience though

i have the Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD4 not the Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4
very slightly different, good board, but the UEFI has ruined it IMO, i should have got the equivalent Asus (stock UEFI) at the time

SirKeldon · Mar 26, 2015

Bo$$ said:
i have the Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD4 not the Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4
very slightly different, good board, but the UEFI has ruined it IMO, i should have got the equivalent Asus (stock UEFI) at the time

Never tried the UEFI version since it wasn't fully stable, claiming it as a BETA. Do you know what differences are? Never searched them, thought they were just minor

Bo$$ · Mar 26, 2015

SirKeldon said:
Never tried the UEFI version since it wasn't fully stable, claiming it as a BETA. Do you know what differences are? Never searched them, thought they were just minor

They are pretty much the same, but the XP (yours) has the onboard video connections, enabling the onboard GPU and Virtu, whereas i don't have these luxuries.

other than that, they are the same. its not so bad as a board overall. Just atrocious on the UEFI bios.

Msquare · Apr 4, 2015

Even i own a 2500k and considering upgrading to skylake rather than something else currently available.

AsRock · Apr 4, 2015

Bo$$ said:
They are pretty much the same, but the XP (yours) has the onboard video connections, enabling the onboard GPU and Virtu, whereas i don't have these luxuries.

other than that, they are the same. its not so bad as a board overall. Just atrocious on the UEFI bios.

Luxuries ?, i tried it a few times and every time my PC has ended up either using more power at idle or just the same but crap performance so you aint missing any thing except when ya bored and end up trying it out lol.

mrthanhnguyen · Apr 4, 2015

In your case, more ram sounds better. In my case, 2500k keeps 100% usage during playing bf4, so I asked if 3770k is worth the upgrade. 95% respond is "No". I still upgraded and 3770k solved the 100% usage. But I still wonder wtf u doing with 50+ tabs in firefox?

Schmuckley · Apr 4, 2015

mrthanhnguyen said:
In your case, more ram sounds better. In my case, 2500k keeps 100% usage during playing bf4, so I asked if 3770k is worth the upgrade. 95% respond is "No". I still upgraded and 3770k solved the 100% usage. But I still wonder wtf u doing with 50+ tabs in firefox?

I'm just wondering what percentage is pr0n.

peche · Apr 4, 2015

Schmuckley said:
I'm just wondering what percentage is pr0n.

A hard question, but all we thought about it already...

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