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ok thanks. now what about my windows question? can you help me out on that?
 
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cuz i dont want dual gpu most games i play are only good on 1 gpu and right now im doing 1080p but in a month or so im going to get a 4k monitar
I would wait then if your goal is single GPU 4k...No matter what 2 GPU's are going to be needed to do 4K adequately, I mean I have 3 GPU's powering my 4K monitor which works well for me but even still BF4/Hardline get around 70~ average without overclocks. A Titan X can deliver a playable experience, but its not going to be amazing so if I were you I would wait for the GTX 1080/980ti/whatever its going to be called or the R9 390X if your really interested in a single GPU 4K experience because the Titan is limited on how hard it can be clocked which could help in games at those resolutions. Same with the 390X which contains HBM that seems to be aimed at these extreme resolutions.

That is just my opinion, I feel that Titan X by itself may not be the best option for you though so I would just consider the options before purchasing especially something that expensive.

The monitor you linked to says 3440 X 1440 so it's not 4K. 4K is 3840 X 2160. The monitor that you linked looks very nice but you will be paying a premium for the curve. I don't think you will have any trouble running it with a Titan X. Basically it has 34.5% more pixels than a 2560 X 1440 monitor and a Titan X should handle that with ease. To put it in perspective
4K ~8.3 million pixels
your monitor ~4.95 million pixels
2560X1440 ~ 3.7 million pixels.
If you do get a 4K monitor then I would say a single Titan X won't really be enough for some games. You can look at the review here to see
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan_X/

What he said^
 
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Don't waste your money dude, there are tons of technological advancements right on our doorstep and the few products on the market that already cater to that are not only far and between, they are ridiculously overpriced at this time and will never provide a flawless experience.

- Current 4K monitors have ridiculous input lag, or a TN panel, both unsuitable for gaming.
- Current single GPU (even Titan X) won't comfortably run 4K
- Dual GPU setups have their disadvantages and buying into SLI this early in a new gen is just throwing money away. The cards will drop in price within a couple of months.

Go 1440p for a couple years and enjoy the step up from 1080p, then buy into 4K at half or a third of the price of today. Two incremental upgrades for the price of going to 4K now and enjoy a slideshow within now and 12 months. Take your pick.
 
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Don't waste your money dude, there are tons of technological advancements right on our doorstep and the few products on the market that already cater to that are not only far and between, they are ridiculously overpriced at this time and will never provide a flawless experience.

- Current 4K monitors have ridiculous input lag, or a TN panel, both unsuitable for gaming.
That is not true, TN panels are fine and better for many gamers as the extremely low response times...Almost all of the 28inch 4K displays like the Asus PB287q, Acer B287Q, or the likes have a TN panel with 1ms response and are great for gaming...
ok thanks. now what about my windows question? can you help me out on that?
It does not matter as Windows 10 is coming in the next couple of months so whatever you choose right now will be freely upgraded in a few months time. I prefer Windows 8.1 personally on my desktop because it is very responsive and even with the problems associated with 4K scaling and such it is better than 7 at that. I have 7 on my laptop and 8.1 on my desktop, I can safely say both offer their pros and cons but the performance difference I feel goes to 8. This is my opinion of course...
 
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Don't waste your money dude, there are tons of technological advancements right on our doorstep and the few products on the market that already cater to that are not only far and between, they are ridiculously overpriced at this time and will never provide a flawless experience.
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- Current 4K monitors have ridiculous input lag, or a TN panel, both unsuitable for gaming.
False
- Current single GPU (even Titan X) won't comfortably run 4K
False. I think you meant, can't amazingly run 4K.
- Dual GPU setups have their disadvantages and buying into SLI this early in a new gen is just throwing money away. The cards will drop in price within a couple of months.
I don't think it's a waste because money is just money I will have more and more every two weeks. I would rather spend it on the awesome goodies now then wait for prices to drop.
Go 1440p for a couple years and enjoy the step up from 1080p, then buy into 4K at half or a third of the price of today. Two incremental upgrades for the price of going to 4K now and enjoy a slideshow within now and 12 months. Take your pick.
If the Titan X is really as bad as you say at 4K then I can always buy another one if I absolutely must have two GPUs

I also won't be playing all the most graphically intense games out there. GTA V will probably be the most hardcore game i'll play graphics wise.
 
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What makes you say that?
Voltage is locked up pretty tight along with the limited room on the voltage limit, if you compare the overclocking potential of like the GTX 980 to it the 980 completely smokes it. 1400 for instance is considered by most to be a very well binned card by TitanX standards versus 1600 on GTX 980. You also will not see many (if any) variations on the design (Other than the LC cooler from EVGA). Though you have room to improve it or see after market clocked variations its not nearly as much as at least I expected comparing to the little brother GPU's. The gaming variant which will have half the ram will have much better starting clocks and have less limits imposed so people can achieve more performance from a single card which will be beneficial for single GPU 4k gaming along with it being more affordable.

If you really want to do 4k with a single GTX Titan X, go for it and grab a 4K G-Sync monitor to help alleviate the stutter/lag from the FPS changing. Just do not expect ultra settings from the card at that resolution without at least one other. Plus again I would say wait for the gaming 1080/980ti/whatever its to be named if your really interested or the R9 390X.

I am not trying to steer you away from 4K, just letting you know what to expect being a 4K user myself.
 
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I was going to get the 5820k, but if i end up going dual titan x's do i need the 5930k? because of pci lanes
 
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i ordered the 5930k in case any1 was wondering
 
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i ordered the 5930k in case any1 was wondering
You could do dual GTX Titan Xs on a 5820k, it has plenty of PCIE lanes.

You can also do it on a 4690k or 4790k which have less pcie lanes than the 5820k (16 on 4790k and 4690k vs 28 on 5820k). Really the 5930K has 40 which is more for 3-4 video cards. But the 5930k is better binned so it will overclock better so just make sure to overclock it like I did :).
 
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Yeah, nothing is wrong with 4k monitors. They might not be like these ultra hz monitors, but they work. I personally want two Titan Xs and the Acer 4k g sync. Time to play both metro reduxs at 4k at ultimate stutter free
 
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Ha ha now how funny would it be if nVidia released the 980 Ti before time at a much more reasonable price.. But they probably wont, at least not before AMD drops their R9 300 series.
 
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Ha ha now how funny would it be if nVidia released the 980 Ti before time at a much more reasonable price.. But they probably wont, at least not before AMD drops their R9 300 series.
I'm expecting the R9 300 series to be much the same price as the 280Ti, they tend to group similar cards into similar price ranges. If the Titan X was a $1,000 card, then expect to pay $800 plus for the next releases.
 
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The monitor you linked to says 3440 X 1440 so it's not 4K. 4K is 3840 X 2160. The monitor that you linked looks very nice but you will be paying a premium for the curve. I don't think you will have any trouble running it with a Titan X. Basically it has 34.5% more pixels than a 2560 X 1440 monitor and a Titan X should handle that with ease. To put it in perspective

4K ~8.3 million pixels
your monitor ~4.95 million pixels
2560X1440 ~ 3.7 million pixels.

If you do get a 4K monitor then I would say a single Titan X won't really be enough for some games. You can look at the review here to see


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan_X/


A single titan x is more than enough for 4k, just turn AA off, which isn't really needed to begin with. Go look at a review with minimum frustrates included...not just averages.
 
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Don't waste your money dude, there are tons of technological advancements right on our doorstep and the few products on the market that already cater to that are not only far and between, they are ridiculously overpriced at this time and will never provide a flawless experience.

- Current 4K monitors have ridiculous input lag, or a TN panel, both unsuitable for gaming.
- Current single GPU (even Titan X) won't comfortably run 4K
- Dual GPU setups have their disadvantages and buying into SLI this early in a new gen is just throwing money away. The cards will drop in price within a couple of months.

Go 1440p for a couple years and enjoy the step up from 1080p, then buy into 4K at half or a third of the price of today. Two incremental upgrades for the price of going to 4K now and enjoy a slideshow within now and 12 months. Take your pick.


Uhm, my TV has no monitor lag.. I'd love to know where you pulled that tidbit of wrong information from.
Even my 50" Samsung 4k, tv has no monitor lag..
I play 4k on tons of games right now but one card isn't enough usually.
 
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Uhm, my TV has no monitor lag.. I'd love to know where you pulled that tidbit of wrong information from.
Even my 50" Samsung 4k, tv has no monitor lag..
I play 4k on tons of games right now but one card isn't enough usually.

All monitors have input lag, and TV's generally have a much higher input lag - the best / lowest input lag TV's are some specific Sony models, and they already have 18 ms input lag in Game mode.

This is also why many gamer monitors are still TN panels, TN has the lowest input lag of all LCD tech.

This 'tidbit' of information is widely documented in pretty much every decent monitor and TV review.

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False
False. I think you meant, can't amazingly run 4K.
I don't think it's a waste because money is just money I will have more and more every two weeks. I would rather spend it on the awesome goodies now then wait for prices to drop.
If the Titan X is really as bad as you say at 4K then I can always buy another one if I absolutely must have two GPUs

I also won't be playing all the most graphically intense games out there. GTA V will probably be the most hardcore game i'll play graphics wise.

Look if you post questions regarding sensible advice you can't just 'skip' the price argument. Of course it is a good idea to have a look at the current state of the market and recent developments, and base your choice on that. If you just want to throw a crapload of cash at something, you don't need advice. You need a salesman. Nobody is telling anyone not to buy stuff, but what I am saying is that buying into 4K at this point is an expensive hobby that will see significant price reduction in the coming year, and that single GPU still can't run 4K comfortably. So is it a smart buy? No.

If you feel it is something you want that's fine, but don't tell yourself it is the best choice to make right now because it really isn't. In the same vein nobody would recommend you to go quad SLI two years ago just so you could run 4K, yet I am sure there are people that have done so.
 
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Nobody is telling anyone not to buy stuff, but what I am saying is that buying into 4K at this point is an expensive hobby that will see significant price reduction in the coming year, and that single GPU still can't run 4K comfortably. So is it a smart buy? No.

If you feel it is something you want that's fine, but don't tell yourself it is the best choice to make right now because it really isn't. In the same vein nobody would recommend you to go quad SLI two years ago just so you could run 4K, yet I am sure there are people that have done so.
Its ok that its going to be cheaper in a year, ill pay the higher price now. I don't know why you think you cant game in 4k but you can. Lots of people are getting 40-80fps in most games in 4k on the Titan X. That's plenty of fps for me and I don't call that lagging. So its a pretty smart buy lol
 
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All monitors have input lag, and TV's generally have a much higher input lag - the best / lowest input lag TV's are some specific Sony models, and they already have 18 ms input lag in Game mode.

This is also why many gamer monitors are still TN panels, TN has the lowest input lag of all LCD tech.

This 'tidbit' of information is widely documented in pretty much every decent monitor and TV review.



Look if you post questions regarding sensible advice you can't just 'skip' the price argument. Of course it is a good idea to have a look at the current state of the market and recent developments, and base your choice on that. If you just want to throw a crapload of cash at something, you don't need advice. You need a salesman. Nobody is telling anyone not to buy stuff, but what I am saying is that buying into 4K at this point is an expensive hobby that will see significant price reduction in the coming year, and that single GPU still can't run 4K comfortably. So is it a smart buy? No.

If you feel it is something you want that's fine, but don't tell yourself it is the best choice to make right now because it really isn't. In the same vein nobody would recommend you to go quad SLI two years ago just so you could run 4K, yet I am sure there are people that have done so.

And I am telling you that idc what your information says.
Gaming in 4k looks amazing..
Sounds like more of the "The human eye can't see more than 30 fps" nonsense to me..
Looks amazing, runs like a charm..

Smart buys? lol..
Those exist? People who have expendable cash, upgrade when they feel like it.
All this talk about "smart buys" is a bit silly to me..
There are no smart buys, you just buy when you want too, when you feel like it..

Significant reduction in prices are already here.
My 4k 50" costed me exactly what my 1080p 50" costed me..
The prices have come down a ton..

You keep waiting, I'l stay at the edge of gaming technology, where I like to be.
Which by the way has me currently gaming in 4k, in games like Metro 2033 and star citizen.
Takes two of my cards though.
 

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And I am telling you that idc what your information says.
Gaming in 4k looks amazing..

Yup.
I've not read a single review that doesn't say 4K gaming is gorgeous. I don't require some humbug review to put me off it either.

People who have expendable cash, upgrade when they feel like it.
All this talk about "smart buys" is a bit silly to me..
There are no smart buys, you just buy when you want too, when you feel like it..

Yup.
It's technology. New faster things are always just around the corner but if you keep walking round those corners - you never buy anything. Smart buys are for budget conscious - those that can afford more, will buy more.

Significant reduction in prices are already here.
The prices have come down a ton..

Yup.
My current monitor (Dell ultra sharp 1440p 27") cost me £520 a few years ago. All I'm waiting for is Win10 and either a 390X or 980Ti (or I'll OC and water cool a Titan X with a modded BIOS)

...stay at the edge of gaming technology...

Yup.
Technology - it's what brings quite a lot of people here. Buy the new shit to fly the kaleidoscope of dreams. I now have no idea what I'm talking about now... but new tech rocks - go buy it!
 
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Meh, I do all of that with a 2 year old video card. While I used to blow money on the latest and greatest computer components... I've learned to make horrible financial decisions/purchases elsewhere now... At least until AMD and Nvidia have a card that's worth it for me to upgrade to... Which will be the 980ti or the 390x, whichever comes first.
 
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