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It is a different pc to the one i waste most of my time on. :D and i dont log onto TPU with it.

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the laptop is just out of shot as is Winebox . hahahaha. Thats just one room :clap:
 
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Update + I need Help.

Hi Guys..

A few days ago i have finished my 2P Build, today i have tested the Power consumption and i have been shocked, 200W is using this Build:eek:,
why and how i dont know and i haven't found a logical answer.
The Cpu's are: 2 x Xeon L5640, running at 2.26GHz, no fans running and just a 2.5 HDD + an Evga 610, the first thing that came into my mind to drop some watts was to remove some ram sticks and so i did, 6 ram sticks were installed and i have removed 4 and watts dropped from 200W to 190W,
now i am trying to used the integrated gpu as @krusha03 suggested me but for some reason i dont get it to work and here is where i need help, in the bios i dont find any option where i can enable the integrated gpu, ( Motherboard: Tyan s7010) as i have said this build was finished a few days ago, i did install the OS but i didn't do any updates (could be that a problem?)
does someone has any idea how to solve this problem?

My question is:
how can be possible that a Xeon E3-1240 V2 3.4GHz turbo boost 3.8GHz 69W is using less power than a Xeon L5640, running at 2.26GHz 60W?

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knoxx take a look:
http://www.tyan.com/support_download_drivers.aspx?model=S.S7010

this:
2011/03/24Aspeed_AST2050_VGA_Windows_32-64
OS: Windows XP 32-bit / Windows XP 64-bit / Windows 2003 32-bit / Windows 2003 64-bit / Windows 2008 32-bit / Windows 2008 64-bit / Windows 2008 R2 64-bit / Windows Server 2003 R2 64-bit /
Version: v0.92.02Aspeed AST2050 VGA Driver

Note: Not all OS’s that are listed as supported by this VGA driver will be supported for your particular motherboard. Check with TYAN technical support for the latest supported OS’s for your motherboard
 
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I am almost wrong but the 60w is for normal operation and you are 24/7 at full load. Hope you find the power bug.:toast:
 

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I am almost wrong but the 60w is for normal operation and you are 24/7 at full load. Hope you find the power bug.:toast:
Agree but belive me the V2 use less power and are at full load and 3.8GHz, can you explain me that?
 

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Agree but belive me the V2 use less power and are at full load and 3.8GHz, can you explain me that?
old technologies VS new architecture,


There are several facts about power consumption between processors,

Intel Xeon L5640: Xeon e3-1230v2 Result:
More l3 cache 12 MB vs 8 MB 50% more l3 cache; more data can be stored in the l3 cache for quick access later
Significantly better performance per dollar 8.98 pt/$ vs 6.07 pt/$ Around 50% better performance per dollar
Supports more CPUs in SMP configuration 2 vs 1 Twice as many CPUs in SMP configuration
Supports more RAM 294,912 MB vs 32,768 MB Supports 9x more RAM
Better overclocked clock speed (Air) 3.98 GHz vs 3.65 GHz Around 10% better overclocked clock speed (Air)
Higher Maximum Operating Temperature 69.4 °C vs 65.8 °C More than 5% higher Maximum Operating Temperature
Slightly more l2 cache per core 0.33 MB/core vs 0.25 MB/core Around 35%


Intel Xeon e3-1230v2 : Xeon L5640: Result:
Significantly higher clock speed 3.3 GHz vs 2.26 GHz More than 45% higher clock speed
Significantly higher turbo clock speed 3.7 GHz vs 2.8 GHz More than 30% higher turbo clock speed
Significantly better PassMark (Single core) score 1,945 vs 1,063 Around 85% better PassMark (Single core) score
Newer manufacturing process 22 nm vs 32 nm A newer manufacturing process allows for a more powerful, yet cooler running processor
Newer May, 2012 vs Mar, 2010 Release date over 2 years later
Better PassMark score 8,890 vs 6,837 More than 30% better PassMark score
Significantly better overclocked clock speed (Water) 3.3 GHz vs 2.27 GHz More than 45% better overclocked clock speed (Water)
Slightly better performance per watt 19.81 pt/W vs 17.52 pt/W Around 15% better performance per watt
 

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Update.
I have got the system to drop some watts, from 200W it dropped to 184W as I said before removing 4 ram stick and now I got it work with the integrated vga, I don't know if replacing the stock coolers it will help to drop some watts, maybe yes maybe no, I have in mind to get 2 X Cooler master hyper 212x.
Tomorrow I will update once again.
If someone has a better idea just post it.
Cheers.
 

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Update.
I have got the system to drop some watts, from 200W it dropped to 184W as I said before removing 4 ram stick and now I got it work with the integrated vga, I don't know if replacing the stock coolers it will help to drop some watts, maybe yes maybe no, I have in mind to get 2 X Cooler master hyper 212x.

Simple thing to remember is heat is power, keep it cool and you could save on consumption, as long as the new fans don't use up the extra.
 
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Update.
I have got the system to drop some watts, from 200W it dropped to 184W as I said before removing 4 ram stick and now I got it work with the integrated vga, I don't know if replacing the stock coolers it will help to drop some watts, maybe yes maybe no, I have in mind to get 2 X Cooler master hyper 212x.
Tomorrow I will update once again.
If someone has a better idea just post it.
Cheers.
I don't think it will make much of a difference but what you can do is check both fans and see what they are rated at. Also as far as I know to get optimal ppd for 12 threads you need about 3 Gb ram. Finally I have no idea if things like disabling the raid controller, audio card etc in the bios actually would reduce the power consumption as well but it's worth to try. In all honestly I expected about 160-170w but it seems that all the extra things on the the board add up.
 

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i have been reading that the mobo itself can use 50 - 80 w depending on the spec...........does that sound right?
 

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Just trying to finalize the dimensions of the thuggish box i will be building for ThugXeon and a thought crossed my mind.......Could i install a laptop size hdd (2.5 inch)
install o/s and crunch with it.
I cant foresee any problems, just want a bit of reassurance before i butcherize the laptop.
 
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Just trying to finalize the dimensions of the thuggish box i will be building for ThugXeon and a thought crossed my mind.......Could i install a laptop size hdd (2.5 inch)
install o/s and crunch with it.
I cant foresee any problems, just want a bit of reassurance before i butcherize the laptop.
sure why the hell not
 

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Just trying to finalize the dimensions of the thuggish box i will be building for ThugXeon and a thought crossed my mind.......Could i install a laptop size hdd (2.5 inch)
install o/s and crunch with it.
I cant foresee any problems, just want a bit of reassurance before i butcherize the laptop.

I switched to 2.5" drives on most of my crunchers a while ago and have had no issues with them (knocks wood)
 

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Also as far as I know to get optimal ppd for 12 threads you need about 3 Gb ram
You mean 3GB for both CPU's or 3GB for ech one?
 
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You mean 3GB for both CPU's or 3GB for ech one?

Per CPU. Actually i got that wrong, according, should be even 4GB for 12 threads according to this:

In an attempt to make it easier for new members to find all of the resources they need for WCG, I'm consolidating them all into one place.
Crunching Tips (from RAMMIE's post) (Edited by Ion to reflect changes):
1 A dedicated cruncher doesn't need more than 2GB or 4GB of RAM.1 stick is best.The single channel penalty is easy to make up with increased CPU clocks.CPU speed rules in these projects. My personal rule is to go with at least X/3 GB of RAM, where X is the number of threads the CPU(s) in your rig has. While you can go lower, it isn't recommended. 2GB of RAM is fine for a four-thread cruncher (Pentium, i3, Phenom II X4, etc) but 4GB is better suited for 8-thread machines (AMD FX-8, Intel Core i7)
2 Timings and RAM speed don't matter much. Again go for CPU speed.
3 x64 OS and 64 BOINC client will get more points than 32 (generally about 10%).
4 Human Proteome Folding creates a lot of problems on a lot of machines. Avoid this project if you see errors in it. We've also been seeing a lot of errors stemming from the Clean Energy Project - Phase 2. If it works fine for you, obviously feel free to run it, but drop it if there are issues. The most common problem thus far has been WUs that "run in circles" and keep the CPU @ load while not actually accomplishing anything.

But in reality i would say just monitor your memory usage
 

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from 4GB installed? then you may need more
My mistake, I was using 2GB per cpu but I have added 2GB more so 4GB per cpu total 8GB.
 

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Processor Intel i7 10700K
Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XII Hero
Cooling 2x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 480 - 1x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 420 - D5 VPP655P - 13x Corsair LL120 - LL140
Memory 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 3600Hz
Video Card(s) EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra
Storage Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB/1TB - WD Blue SN550 1TB - 2 X WD Blue 1TB - 3 X WD Black 1TB
Display(s) Asus ROG PG278QR 2560x1440 144Hz (Overclocked 165Hz )/ Samsung
Case Corsair Obsidian 1000D
Audio Device(s) I prefer Gaming-Headset
Power Supply Enermax MaxTytan 1250W 80+ Titanium
Mouse Logitech G502 spectrum
Keyboard Virtuis Advanced Gaming Keyboard ( Batboard )
Software Windows 10 Enterprise/Windows 10 Pro/Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores My PC runs FiFA
Update 0

Hi Guys.
It has been a while since my last update (Mar 28, 2015 at 11:08 PM) but Today i am back:toast:

Going Back to the Past, My first Post was about my First Cruncher Machine, it was this one:


Hardwares: Pic 2 Pic 1 Pic 3
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One Month Later the Motherboard and the Processor that i had on the AMD Cruncher Machine were Replaced with those one here:

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Note: Ram, Hdd and Power Supply are the same that were on the AMD Machine.
I dint take any Pic from the new Hardwares mounted on the Cooler Master Case becasue the Amd and the Xeon Machine were almost the same.

I hope you Enjoy this Short Update:slap:
 

FireFox

The Power Of Intel
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Memory 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 3600Hz
Video Card(s) EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra
Storage Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB/1TB - WD Blue SN550 1TB - 2 X WD Blue 1TB - 3 X WD Black 1TB
Display(s) Asus ROG PG278QR 2560x1440 144Hz (Overclocked 165Hz )/ Samsung
Case Corsair Obsidian 1000D
Audio Device(s) I prefer Gaming-Headset
Power Supply Enermax MaxTytan 1250W 80+ Titanium
Mouse Logitech G502 spectrum
Keyboard Virtuis Advanced Gaming Keyboard ( Batboard )
Software Windows 10 Enterprise/Windows 10 Pro/Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores My PC runs FiFA
Update 1

Moving Back to the Present.

I have Builded a second Xeon Machine :rockout: i never did and update or posted any pic, Maybe i was too Lazy:cry:
but now its time to show you it:toast:

Ladies and Gentlemen i am proud to present you my second Xeon Machine:


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Another Short Update:shadedshu:
 

FireFox

The Power Of Intel
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Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XII Hero
Cooling 2x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 480 - 1x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 420 - D5 VPP655P - 13x Corsair LL120 - LL140
Memory 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 3600Hz
Video Card(s) EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra
Storage Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB/1TB - WD Blue SN550 1TB - 2 X WD Blue 1TB - 3 X WD Black 1TB
Display(s) Asus ROG PG278QR 2560x1440 144Hz (Overclocked 165Hz )/ Samsung
Case Corsair Obsidian 1000D
Audio Device(s) I prefer Gaming-Headset
Power Supply Enermax MaxTytan 1250W 80+ Titanium
Mouse Logitech G502 spectrum
Keyboard Virtuis Advanced Gaming Keyboard ( Batboard )
Software Windows 10 Enterprise/Windows 10 Pro/Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores My PC runs FiFA
update 2

I know many of you remember my first 2P Machine
Tyan S7010 Dual Sockel 1366 Serverboard +The Twin Intel CPU Xeon L5640 6c/12t @ 2.26GHz 60W -5,86 GT/s - SLBV8

Just in case you dont remember it here is a Pic:slap:

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It was running on the table becasue i didnt have a case for it, but today i want to show you how nice it
looks in a Case and after i have replaced the Coolers :D

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