Need advice for new gaming PC built around my Dell 34" wide screen

[bruceaskani]

I'm looking for a little expert advice for a new gaming PC build with a Dell u3415w 34" wide screen monitor. I already own the monitor I've put together a list here:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KthBdC

Any feedback would be appreciated. This is my first new build in 3 years. I've bought the monitor and contemplating buying 2 970 GTX in SLI for 3K gaming (if that what 3440x14440 is called). I'm not sure if I should go with the new 6 core processors or the 4790K. I prefer an Intel processor and Nvidia GPU.

It's imortant to me for this new PC to last me another 3 years, but also be able to play the Witcher 3 and GTA V at 3K with full graphics.

Thank you.

 

[MagnuTron]

So.. You do other things than just gaming, since you are contemplating the 6 CPU's, let alone a 4790K.. Yep?

 

[XSI]

you can save ~ 100$ with similar setup, just use other parts, motherboard saving ~20-30$, ram 20-30$, psu ~30$.
other than that, its awesome components and you should have a blast with you new monitor ...seriously jealous....
2 970in sli will do perfectly fine. 3k wide screen gaming setup like this is less demanding compare it to 4k. its in between 2560x1440 - 4k. i would say everything is great, personally i would take 4690k. 100$ saved. If $ not a big deal and you don't care about 200$ everything is fine.

 

[neko77025]

I'm looking for a little expert advice for a new gaming PC build with a Dell u3415w 34" wide screen monitor. I already own the monitor I've put together a list here:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KthBdC

Any feedback would be appreciated. This is my first new build in 3 years. I've bought the monitor and contemplating buying 2 970 GTX in SLI for 3K gaming (if that what 3440x14440 is called). I'm not sure if I should go with the new 6 core processors or the 4790K. I prefer an Intel processor and Nvidia GPU.

It's imortant to me for this new PC to last me another 3 years, but also be able to play the Witcher 3 and GTA V at 3K with full graphics.

Thank you.

If you are doing 3k ... or anything more then 1080p .. DO NOT GET THE 970s ..... .. 970s have the memory issues .. they are 3.5gb of good mem and 500mb of SLOW mem .. @ 3k you will need too use all of the 4gbs of mem the 970s have and that will force you too use the 500mb of SLOW mem and screw you.

DO NOT USE 970s for anything more then 1080p ... Read up on this.


As for everything else.

I just built my comp A few months back.

I can say the 4790k will Crush Everything thing you put in front of it . I run most games on Very high / Max At 5760 x 1080 ( 3x 1080p) ... I will not run anything inless it is 40+ FPS.
If you do get A 4790k .. I will 100% recommend the GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK This is HANDS down the best Z97 board. it has A PLX chip so it can run 4x SLI / CF if you need it to, It has Killer and Intel NIC, it has A TRUE creative labs sound card on board (and you can change the op-amp) The only issues that this board does have .. No M.2 (however my last board did and I was not A huge fan of M.2) and the Wireless that comes with the board will take up one of the PCI-E slots.

 

[RCoon]

Before I lose my mind, 3440 x 1440 isn't 3K

Carry on!

DO NOT USE 970s for anything more then 1080p

I intend to use mine for 4K

 

[TheMailMan78]

So.. You do other things than just gaming, since you are contemplating the 6 CPU's, let alone a 4790K.. Yep?

6 cores does not equal 6 cpu's. Also the more cores the better when it comes to gaming. There are people on this forum who are upgrading their 2500k this year because they didn't invest in a 2600k. They saved a few bucks a few years ago just to invest now. I'm just sitting here with my 2600k running everything maxed out. Just food for thought.

 

[RCoon]

6 cores does not equal 6 cpu's. Also the more cores the better when it comes to gaming. There are people on this forum who are upgrading their 2500k this year because they didn't invest in a 2600k. They saved a few bucks a few years ago just to invest now. I'm just sitting here with my 2600k running everything maxed out. Just food for thought.

Very much worthwhile with the incoming DX12 utilising all CPU cores. It might not be here right away, but if OP wants to last for 3 years, I'd like to think we have DX12 by then.

 

[krusha03]

As it was said you can save some $$ on a similar setup. The FTW is better and currently cheaper than the SSC. Also for that price I think you better get a AIO water cooler

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($326.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER H2O 1250 98.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell U3415W 60Hz 34.0" Monitor ($999.99 @ Mac Mall)
Total: $2578.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-20 10:31 EDT-0400

But a 6 core CPU ends up only $100 so i would get that:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($362.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER H2O 1250 98.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($151.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell U3415W 60Hz 34.0" Monitor ($999.99 @ Mac Mall)
Total: $2690.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-20 10:35 EDT-0400

BTW i notice you are missing HDD and Case so I didn't put them here. Also the radeon 300 series are expected soon so you might want to wait for that

 

[neko77025]

About the 970s and the Mem issues as I was talking about. I am linking 2 screen shots of Settings inside GTA 5, these are in the settings. GTA 5 shows you how much Mem the setting you have set will use of your video cards. The first pic is what I am running the game at, that is everything on high with 2x MSAA. I can not Max the settings due too lack of Video Card ram. Then 2nd Pic is how much Ram is need to Max everything. After I post this I will load it back up and take A pic of both of them with just 1920x 1080 and show how much less video mem they use .. and will link them also. Heads Up these first 2x Pics are me running them a 5760x 1080p so they are big. BRB .. going too get the other screen shots too show you.

Point is .. the 970s will use all 4gbs of mem and this will cause it too load the bad 500mb of mem and slow it down .. will run like ass.

First Pic Mem it takes to run everything on High @ 5760 x 1080p
5986 MB / 6142 MB (barely makes it ... I tuned these settings and this is the best I can run)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tadjsdqtaav3px6/2015-04-20_00002.jpg?dl=0


2nd Pic Mem it takes to run everything MAXed @ 5760 x 1080p
10020 MB / 6142 MB (I have no chance in hell of running this)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5zjoalwidngvkd1/2015-04-20_00001.jpg?dl=0

3rd Pic Mem it take to run everything on High @ 1920 x 1080p
4542 MB / 6142 MB (under) This is the same settings As What I run just 1920 not 5760
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k50hluuu69c6vgm/2015-04-20_00003.jpg?dl=0


4th Pic Mem it takes to run everything MAXed @ 1920 x 1080p
7256 MB / 6142 MB (over) I cant even run GTA 5 Maxed at normal 1080p
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cha7t3yhom5vhm6/2015-04-20_00004.jpg?dl=0


So with that info Above...

Take the First pic and the 3rd pic ... this is the amount of Video card memory it takes to run GTA 5 with the same setting just at different resolutions 1920 x 1080p ( 1 monitor ) vs 5760 x 1080p (3 Monitors).
AS you can see it take 5986mb for 5760 vs 4542 mb for 1920. That is 1444 mb more !

Running At 3k is about the same as this.

Anyhow , Point is .. AVOID the 970s for 3k / 4k ... more resolution will Use more memory ... once you got past the 3.5gb mark on the 970s .. it will use the slow mem and will mess you up.

 

[bruceaskani]

Let me start off by thanking everyone for their input. I'm an old time gamer and appreciate all the help I can get. The computer is mainly for gaming. I have a separate computer for work.

My current set up is the following (this is from memory because I am not at home right now):

CPU: I7 2600K
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO or Tuniq Tower
Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4
Ram: PNY XLR8 4GB DDR3 1600 x 4
GPU(s): GTX 670 Superclocked+ 4GB each card x 2 in SLI
Power supply: Corsair 750W
Kingston 64GB SSD for windows (which is full)
Kingston 240GB SSD for programs and games
2 Sata hard drives I can't remember the brands or models.
Optical drive is a dvd burner
Operating system: Windows 7 Home Premium

I'm most likely handing this build down to my son so I will be getting all new parts.

My concern from the comments is the 970 in SLI. I'd like to run games like GTA V at ultra setting at 3440x1440.

Would I be better off with 2 980's or even 1 of the Nvidia Titan video cards?

So.. You do other things than just gaming, since you are contemplating the 6 CPU's, let alone a 4790K.. Yep?

I mostly game and surf the web.

If you are doing 3k ... or anything more then 1080p .. DO NOT GET THE 970s ..... .. 970s have the memory issues .. they are 3.5gb of good mem and 500mb of SLOW mem .. @ 3k you will need too use all of the 4gbs of mem the 970s have and that will force you too use the 500mb of SLOW mem and screw you.

DO NOT USE 970s for anything more then 1080p ... Read up on this.


As for everything else.

I just built my comp A few months back.

I can say the 4790k will Crush Everything thing you put in front of it . I run most games on Very high / Max At 5760 x 1080 ( 3x 1080p) ... I will not run anything inless it is 40+ FPS.
If you do get A 4790k .. I will 100% recommend the GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK This is HANDS down the best Z97 board. it has A PLX chip so it can run 4x SLI / CF if you need it to, It has Killer and Intel NIC, it has A TRUE creative labs sound card on board (and you can change the op-amp) The only issues that this board does have .. No M.2 (however my last board did and I was not A huge fan of M.2) and the Wireless that comes with the board will take up one of the PCI-E slots.

Are you using 970 in SLI?

What is M.2 and do I need it for a gaming computer. Thanks!

 

[neko77025]

Read this thread http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/can-i-play-gta-v-in-4k.211834/

It will take 2x Titan X to run ultra at that Res.

I think your best bet is 2x 980s. ...

M.2 is A new format for PCI-E, Mostly used for SSDs , faster then Sata 3. However I dont miss it.. In fact I have A M.2 SSD sitting on my desk right next to me doing nothing cause it dont fit.

But for real this Board is Amazing. read some reviews on it ... If you are just Gaming Like me ... 4790k will do everything you want for 3 years .. Look at benchmarks 4790k vs 5930k or 5960x ... Its A draw for the most part. However they are right , DX12 will make use of more cores / HT. but that is still A ways off and so are the games that will come with it. ... But if want to plan for DX12 .. then AMDs (coming soon) 16 core W/ HT will be the way to go. Their CPUs/APUs run crazy well on DX12 / Manttel but shit(y) on old / currnt stuff.

But no matter what you do , As so As you do .. it will become outdated.

 

[bruceaskani]

As it was said you can save some $$ on a similar setup. The FTW is better and currently cheaper than the SSC. Also for that price I think you better get a AIO water cooler

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($326.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER H2O 1250 98.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell U3415W 60Hz 34.0" Monitor ($999.99 @ Mac Mall)
Total: $2578.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-20 10:31 EDT-0400

But a 6 core CPU ends up only $100 so i would get that:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($362.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER H2O 1250 98.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($151.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($314.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell U3415W 60Hz 34.0" Monitor ($999.99 @ Mac Mall)
Total: $2690.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-20 10:35 EDT-0400

BTW i notice you are missing HDD and Case so I didn't put them here. Also the radeon 300 series are expected soon so you might want to wait for that

I want the new build for Witcher 3 for sure so I do not think I can wait for the R300. I thought about it.

I do not intend on overclocking so is the water cooler necessary? I've never used water cooling. Are they harder to install then air cooling?

I have a nice full tower Antec case and already bought a Samsung EVO 850 500GB. I also have a 240 SSD for Windows. I bought a Toshiba 3TB for storage.

Regarding the 4790 and 5820, they are $279 and $299 respectively at a local Microcenter.

M.2 is A new format for PCI-E, Mostly used for SSDs , faster then Sata 3. However I dont miss it.. In fact I have A M.2 SSD sitting on my desk right next to me doing nothing cause it dont fit.

But for real this Board is Amazing. read some reviews on it ... If you are just Gaming Like me ... 4790k will do everything you want for 3 years .. Look at benchmarks 4790k vs 5930k or 5960x ... Its A draw for the most part. However they are right , DX12 will make use of more cores / HT. but that is still A ways off and so are the games that will come with it. ... But if want to plan for DX12 .. then AMDs (coming soon) 16 core W/ HT will be the way to go. Their CPUs/APUs run crazy well on DX12 / Manttel but shit(y) on old / currnt stuff.

But no matter what you do , As so As you do .. it will become outdated.

I was hoping I did not have to spend $1100 on 2 980's right now. My plan was to get the 2 970's to hold me over until September when the 980ti comes out. Regarding AMD. I prefer getting Intel and Nvidia until I see something crazy in the future. Also I am not as familiar with AMD products.

 

[neko77025]

heads up their is 4790 and 4790k ... the K means it is unlocked and can be overlocked very easy , and i think it had A higher speed with the turbo clock (auto overlock) 4.5ghz. And with you having the Samsung Evo 850 and the other SSD you will not need m.2

Here is my comp running at stock 0 Overlocks on anything http://puu.sh/hkUcf/acf11a0a73.jpg

This board, the one I have GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK, it cost a Bit more then one you have listed, However it is worth it. What this board Has on it vs what the one you have picked out.

Your board ... Very low end sound.
This Board... The best soundcard on A mobo ever. Its this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102049 with out the control pod. (with a better op-amp you can change if you want )

Your Board.. 2 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 or dual x8) (only 2 video cards Ever)
This Board 2 (x16) 2 (x8) ( 4 Video cards .. or 2 + 2 other things PCI-E SSD or something else )

Your Board Low grade caps, poor overclocking, bad Quality
This board High grage caps, very good overlocking and Vgood Quality parts.

But think about it like this .. if you get the asus board and then got A good soundcard that is another 100.00 .. this has A epic one built in and wont take any slots.

 

[bruceaskani]

I'm not interested in getting a sound card but your board is really expensive. I do get the point though. You get what you pay for.

One more question. I do not use speakers. I use Logitech G35 headphones. Will the sound from the Gigabyte board make as big of a difference?

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Let me start off by thanking everyone for their input. I'm an old time gamer and appreciate all the help I can get. The computer is mainly for gaming. I have a separate computer for work.

My current set up is the following (this is from memory because I am not at home right now):

CPU: I7 2600K
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO or Tuniq Tower
Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4
Ram: PNY XLR8 4GB DDR3 1600 x 4
GPU(s): GTX 670 Superclocked+ 4GB each card x 2 in SLI
Power supply: Corsair 750W
Kingston 64GB SSD for windows (which is full)
Kingston 240GB SSD for programs and games
2 Sata hard drives I can't remember the brands or models.
Optical drive is a dvd burner
Operating system: Windows 7 Home Premium

I'm most likely handing this build down to my son so I will be getting all new parts.

My concern from the comments is the 970 in SLI. I'd like to run games like GTA V at ultra setting at 3440x1440.

Would I be better off with 2 980's or even 1 of the Nvidia Titan video cards?

You don't need to upgrade your complete system. Infact it would be a waste of money. Upgrading to a 4790k will only net you a 10-15% boost in CPU power clock for clock, and the 2600k is generally a better OC'er. All you need to upgrade for your new monitor is your GTX 670 cards. A pair of GTX 980 cards, or wait for the GTX 980ti cards to be released this fall and you'll be golden. Honestly, my single GTX 780ti running OC'ed at 1100 MHz has no problems with games I play (FPS mostly) on my 2560*1600 30" HP.

edit: Oh and getting 8 gigs of system RAM wouldn't hurt either.

double edit: missed the part about your son getting your current system.

 

[erocker]

If you are doing 3k ... or anything more then 1080p .. DO NOT GET THE 970s ..... .. 970s have the memory issues .. they are 3.5gb of good mem and 500mb of SLOW mem .. @ 3k you will need too use all of the 4gbs of mem the 970s have and that will force you too use the 500mb of SLOW mem and screw you.

DO NOT USE 970s for anything more then 1080p ... Read up on this.


As for everything else.

I just built my comp A few months back.

I can say the 4790k will Crush Everything thing you put in front of it . I run most games on Very high / Max At 5760 x 1080 ( 3x 1080p) ... I will not run anything inless it is 40+ FPS.
If you do get A 4790k .. I will 100% recommend the GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK This is HANDS down the best Z97 board. it has A PLX chip so it can run 4x SLI / CF if you need it to, It has Killer and Intel NIC, it has A TRUE creative labs sound card on board (and you can change the op-amp) The only issues that this board does have .. No M.2 (however my last board did and I was not A huge fan of M.2) and the Wireless that comes with the board will take up one of the PCI-E slots.

GTX 970 works great on 1440p for a "budget" card. You might want to check reviews and see that most games at 1440p don't even come very close to using over 3.5gb of Vram. 970 and 1440p is NOT an issue.

 

[bruceaskani]

GTX 970 works great on 1440p for a "budget" card. You might want to check reviews and see that most games at 1440p don't even come very close to using over 3.5gb of Vram. 970 and 1440p is NOT an issue.

I'm worried more about future games. GTA V is using more when I set everything to very high at 3440x1440. I'm more worried about the Witcher 3. I appreciate the input.

You don't need to upgrade your complete system. Infact it would be a waste of money. Upgrading to a 4790k will only net you a 10-15% boost in CPU power clock for clock, and the 2600k is generally a better OC'er. All you need to upgrade for your new monitor is your GTX 670 cards. A pair of GTX 980 cards, or wait for the GTX 980ti cards to be released this fall and you'll be golden. Honestly, my single GTX 780ti running OC'ed at 1100 MHz has no problems with games I play (FPS mostly) on my 2560*1600 30" HP.

edit: Oh and getting 8 gigs of system RAM wouldn't hurt either.

double edit: missed the part about your son getting your current system.

I may end up getting 2 980's. I'd like to wait for the 980ti, but they are 5 months off and I'd like my son to have a decent computer for the summer. My main reason though is to play Witcher 3 maxed out on my 34" widescreen.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bfsW8d

note: I don't like AIO water coolers, hence the air cooler recommendation. Air coolers are simply more reliable and higher-end air coolers offer the same performance as AIO water coolers.

 

[OneMoar]

I would't use the 970's for anything over 1440P the memory split starts to become a issue above that ... 4k ... forget about it ...
I would seriously consider waiting for either the 390x or the 980TI
windows 7 is fine so long as you upgrade to windows 10 when its available

 

[bruceaskani]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bfsW8d

note: I don't like AIO water coolers, hence the air cooler recommendation. Air coolers are simply more reliable and higher-end air coolers offer the same performance as AIO water coolers.

I have no experience with water coolers so thanks for the recommendation. I appreciate it.

I would't use the 970's for anything over 1440P the memory split starts to become a issue above that ... 4k ... forget about it ...
I would seriously consider waiting for either the 390x or the 980TI
windows 7 is fine so long as you upgrade to windows 10 when its available

I may end up doing that. I'm going to start by upgrading my motherboard and cpu. Thanks for the advice on the gpu. neko77025 has shown me some in depth information and videos. The 970s are off the table for sure.

 

[XSI]

easy solution, worked for me many times. you need more performance, just lower your AA settings. this gives less memory usage and better performance. If you want to put every button on max and AA on max, find an older game, put your super sampling AA ON 16X ...you should realize, not always there is a hardware to run the game at max at the time. look at original Crysis it needet few years to be playable with Very High + 4AA. in 2007 only sli setups like 8800gtx or 8800 ultra could do it. i had 2 8800GT sli and was ~35-45 fps on average. with no AA.
So get realistic, few hundred or thousand $ more or some compromise in settings, where you not always see the difference.