GTA V Causing my PC to Freeze

[marmiteonpizza]

Ouch.......
all the other fans are spinning up including gpu?
any beeps on startup?

sounds like mobo to me but im no expert.
Its strange how a previous fan stopped working, they are usually very reliable.

okay that was a good shout about if other fans are working because I just opened up my case, fired the powered button and my GPU fans aren't working either!

No beeps on start up.

I don't know if this is just coincidence, but before I went on holiday last week, I was playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 with no problems, and when I came back and started playing GTA, the problems kicked in.
Although, I first started playing last Saturday night wth no crashes or issues at all. They started to appear on Sunday, the day after.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

do you have a spare psu?

I think you are going to have to swap out some parts to find the problem.

 

[marmiteonpizza]

Found the problem!

The cause was because I installed an extra two sticks of RAM earlier in the week.
It was fine up until yesterday though which is a little weird.
Anyway, I've bumped up the speed from 1300mhz to 1600mhz as it should be (with only the original two sticks of RAM in).
Should I now be able to install the other two with no future problems? All the sticks are from the same Corsair line (although the two new ones are bigger in memory) and run at 1600mhz.

I don't think this solves the GTA crashing to desktop issue by the way, just te internal fans not running.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Honestly, I didn't think the fans were the cause of it. If it were, other games would probably be having issues too.

The game crashes a lot for many. Two common causes are shooting from vehicles on certain missions (thought to be use of RMB), and using throwable weapons on foot just about anywhere. The crash for the latter does not happen WHEN using the throwables, it usually happens on the next character switch.

The most mentioned missions this happens on are The Jewelry Store heist and the segment where Trevor is chasing the bikers in his truck when his character is first introduced (caused by shooting from vehicles), and Blitz Play and Caida Libre character switches (caused by throwing explosives while on foot).

The Jewelry Store crash can be easily avoided by just ramming the cops with the delivery van. The biker chase segment crash can be avoided by ramming the bikers with Trevor's truck instead of shooting them. Some have also avoided it by turning off Page Loading in the Saving and Startup menu.

The character switch crashes can be avoided in missions that require destroying vehicles by throwing the explosives from inside a vehicle, or using alternate methods for destroying them, like shooting the gas tank then the leaking gas, or driving them into water.

The game also seems to require a fairly large Page File. Many have set it to the default system controlled setting so it never runs out of space. Some are turning off Autosave along with Page Loading in the Saving and Startup menu. I have not had any crashes since not using throwables on foot.

 

[marmiteonpizza]

Some have also avoided it by turning off Page Loading in the Saving and Startup menu.

What do you mean by this? Which menu? What actually is page loading? It's linked with virtual system memory isn't it? I've increased the virtual memory, even though I now have 24GB of physical RAM.

This page loading theory seems to be my last hope. If it proves to be unyielding, my satisfaction of the game is in the hands of Rockstar; I hope they release a string of patches soon.

What is page loading and how can I turn it off?

 

[Muhad]

Re-seat all components on the motherboard, and only do this with power off and when the system is cool.
Check all cabling to see they are connect properly especially power supply.
Turn all over-clocking off and try the game with the case open to see if all fans are running.
Is the system up to date with all AMD drivers, whatever they might be?

If you put to much paste on the cpu it will not help, and you probably should be using Arctic Silver 5.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/amd_application_method.html#

Is the motherboard BIOS up to date? Sometimes resetting the BIOS will solve a lot of problems.
Obviously you need to now how to set up the BIOS after resetting.
All RAM sticks should be exactly alike.

 

[Easy Rhino]

Should have bought it on console 18 months ago.

 

[marmiteonpizza]

Re-seat all components on the motherboard, and only do this with power off and when the system is cool.
Check all cabling to see they are connect properly especially power supply.
Turn all over-clocking off and try the game with the case open to see if all fans are running.
Is the system up to date with all AMD drivers, whatever they might be?

If you put to much paste on the cpu it will not help, and you probably should be using Arctic Silver 5.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/amd_application_method.html#

Is the motherboard BIOS up to date? Sometimes resetting the BIOS will solve a lot of problems.
Obviously you need to now how to set up the BIOS after resetting.
All RAM sticks should be exactly alike.

I can cross all of these off the list apart from the updated BIOS. But I'm going to wait a little longer and see what Rockstar Support have in store for me, as we're currently exchanging information through one-to-one emails. I'll also see what the near-future patches bring, then I'll see if my BIOS needs updating if nothing is fruitful.

Should have bought it on console 18 months ago.

I've been thinking about that, and was sorely tempted to buy the Xbox One version before the PC release. But my Xbox is pretty much my brother's now as I've decided that I'm 100% a PC gamer. That may be stubborn, but PC gaming is my passion.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

What do you mean by this? Which menu?

It's in the Saving and Startup menu like I said.

 

[marmiteonpizza]

It's in the Saving and Startup menu like I said.

Oh sorry bro, didn't read carefully enough.
I managed to play online last night for over 3 hours straight with no crashing!

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I managed to play online last night for over 3 hours straight with no crashing!

Out of random luck, or did you change some settings?

I finally decided to do a lengthy redownload, reinstall, restart process, and so far, so good. I didn't have the no cops bug in the Prologue this time.

This game is such a huge file I think a lot of times the download process itself can cause problems. I probably should have bought it on disc like I wanted to, but the only way to get a good price was via DL, and I didn't want to wait for a price drop on the retail disc version.

 

[marmiteonpizza]

Out of random luck, or did you change some settings?

I finally decided to do a lengthy redownload, reinstall, restart process, and so far, so good. I didn't have the no cops bug in the Prologue this time.

This game is such a huge file I think a lot of times the download process itself can cause problems. I probably should have bought it on disc like I wanted to, but the only way to get a good price was via DL, and I didn't want to wait for a price drop on the retail disc version.

Random luck, today and yesterday I've randomly been getting fewer crashes, as is the pattern.
I reinstalled the game a few weeks ago to see if it would fix the crashes; it did not.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

^So far the only bug I've had that I didn't before was one of the AI going invisible when inside the O'Neill's house. I played it before at night though, this time during the day.

They need to go over this game thoroughly with a bug sweep.

 

[ANIHILUS]

Did you manage to fix this ? Im having the same problem..omg it';s so anoying

 

[jboydgolfer]

I would atleast try something that helped me out, and is apparently not just affected me in the past,... i have no idea WHY it would cause instability, but it indeed does, launching ANY of the GTA5 executables in Administrator mode, or in compatibility mode caused issues for me and many others from what i read after googling MY problem with gta5. i would recommend a check to make sure they arent in either of those modes...it happened with my game recently. IF of course it IS indeed a software issue. worth a shot.

i admit this sounds a bit deeper than what i mentioned above, based on the content of the thread so far, but it cant hurt. good luck

 

[marmiteonpizza]

I upgraded to an Intel CPU in the summer, and everything's been working fine (apart from a few dodgy optimisations for my AMD GPU).
I'm getting 60fps with almost everything set to max in the city, and a few minor frame drops out in the country.

@ANIHILUS, if you could fill out your system specs for us all to see, maybe we can fix this for you

 

[ANIHILUS]

Phenom 955be x4 3.5ghz , 8 gb ram 1600 , gtx 460 1gb , 1tb sshd

I know my specs are low... but before this crap pc i had other one worst.... dual core 3.0 ghz , 4gb ram and same video card... and I was playing it for non stop 10 hours without any crash....so low specs is not the problem

This pc freeze is the most annoying because i cant even alt+ctrl+del to shut down the game... i only have to restart pc

All drivers up to date ; What I tried : underclock ram , cpu ; overclock ram , cpu.... disable page file....run in safe mode.... run in highest game settings... run in lowest game settings...

Bassicaly it;s random.... i can get it in 5 mins of gameplay or after 2hrs.... but never played more than 2hrs without getting it....instant freeze and a brown screen

 

[marmiteonpizza]

Is the freezing only happening in GTA V like it did for me? Or is it more general than that?

 

[ANIHILUS]

Only in GTA 5....... no other game happens that......And I play all kindz of games....newest up to date
https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/communities/public/questions/203329398-GTA-V-PC-Freezing-Issue
I found this and nobody from here found any solution.... and they got better hardware than me

 

[xorbe]

GTA V is an excellent system stress test and will reveal weakness. It has never crashed on my system though.

Start testing things one at a time until you find the culprit.
- lower cpu speed, give small voltage bump
- lower gpu speed, try to give a small voltage bump with msi ab
- lower ram speed/timings, give small voltage bump
- check cpu temp
- check stability with Prime95 / IBT / MemTest etc

If still crashing, it gets harder
- failing psu, swap and test
- failing ram, swap and test
- really failing gpu, swap and test
- motherboard / motherboard caps
- motherboard <-> ssd/hdd issue
- malware in OS

For a quick fix just to avoid the issue, you might try game settings that are a step or two below max quality. Just to lower stress on the system. I realize many people don't care if the computer is actually totally stable ... they just want to play w/o crash.

 

[ANIHILUS]

I just needed a solution from ppl that had the same problem....I know i can change every part from my pc and test but I dont have anyone to give me hardware for testing.....but as you can see in the link i posted .... many ppl have this problem with different specifications... so i guess it;s a software problem .....or some bios setting it;s causing it

 

[erocker]

I had a freezing issue with this game when it was released, I found turning vsync on fixed it. A couple of patches ago though, I no longer have the issue. So, if vsync isn't enabled, try it.

 

[ANIHILUS]

Did that already.....doesn;t help

 

[xorbe]

I just needed a solution from ppl that had the same problem....I know i can change every part from my pc and test but I dont have anyone to give me hardware for testing.....but as you can see in the link i posted .... many ppl have this problem with different specifications... so i guess it;s a software problem .....or some bios setting it;s causing it

You're looking for a silver bullet solution, but system instability doesn't work that way.

 

[marmiteonpizza]

I just needed a solution from ppl that had the same problem

Unfortunately I never found a solution with my previous setup; the only reason I don't have this problem anymore is because I upgraded my CPU, MoBo and RAM. So I technically had a new system.

I too was searching all over the web for solutions found by people with the same problem...but to no avail. I think this is a scenario where you need to try every single idea possible, no matter how small and insignificant it may seem, or how much effort and time it requires.