Valve Allowing Modders to Charge For Mods on Steam.

[WhiteNoise]

The people have spoken and were heard. Hell yeah.

 

[MakeDeluxe]

It sounds to me like Bethesda was probably getting a large chunk of that 75% and seeing the feedback, they didn't want any part of it. Valve, thusly, had to kill it. I suspect it will come back at some point but it will be changed (perhaps not being a generic feature but a feature specific to each title with a negotiated publisher cut).

Looks like it was Valve who pulled the plug. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/am...utm_content=news_module&utm_campaign=homepage
I'm still not going back to Steam because crap like this will happen in the future

 

[Ahhzz]

My money (that I didn't spend on the mods) says that when TES 6 comes out, or the next Fallout, there won't be nearly the Mod support there was. The Design tool won't be free, it will cost money, which will lead Bethesda to setup a payment system, "to allow the mod developers the chance to recoup the money they spent on the Design tool". Which they will take a cut of. They will also make an attempt to keep people from uploading free mods to Nexus and the like, by making it an Apple type store system, where the only way you can load mods, without tons of hoops, is to load them directly from Steam. My Nostradamus for the day

 

[64K]

Well that was fast. I thought this would drag out for a while longer. I'm not sure how Valve and Bethesda were carving up that 75% cut but Valve normally takes a 30% cut on the games they sell on Steam so if they were continuing with that policy then Bethesda was taking a 45% cut. Glad this nonsense is gone.

 

[RCoon]

The problem is the damage is already done. Some modders now dislike some of their "entitled" mod users, mod users now dislike certain "entitled" mod creators, and now everyone has a tiny bit of hate for Steam and Bethesda for doing such a ridiculous and drastic move and causing damage to the modding community. Damage that won't be undone all that quickly.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

Also lets just put it out there a particular user document and stated this would happen in 2012 so I guess it wasn't really a spur of the moment idea.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2518268

 

[rtwjunkie]

@Ahhzz I think you are entirely correct in your assessment. Mods for say, Oblivion and Skyrim will remain free and we can make and use mods to our hearts' content, even in Steam as long as we want. This is fine with me. Skyrim still has alot of modding life left in it and will remain popular because of it. Older Bethesda games like Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Fallout NV (especially) still have a large user base with new mods either being released or improving older mods.

I believe future games such as Fallout 4, the next ES, etc, will have some kind of DRMification to enable paid mods. I think they realized they can probably get away with it going forward, but can't backtrack on older titles. Fine with me. I enjoy all my older modded games as much as I ever did.

 

[RCoon]

@Ahhzz I think you are entirely correct in your assessment. Mods for say, Oblivion and Skyrim will remain free and we can make and use mods to our hearts' content, even in Steam as long as we want. This is fine with me. Skyrim still has alot of modding life left in it and will remain popular because of it. Older Bethesda games like Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Fallout NV (especially) still have a large user base with new mods either being released or improving older mods.

I believe future games such as Fallout 4, the next ES, etc, will have some kind of DRMification to enable paid mods. I think they realized they can probably get away with it going forward, but can't backtrack on older titles. Fine with me. I enjoy all my older modded games as much as I ever did.

If Skywind/Morroblivion/Falskaar was behind a $5 paywall I wouldn't mind. I strongly dislike somebody charging $5 for a single sword or hat when others have managed to offer massive game improvement mods for free for years.

 

[Irish_PXzyan]

I'm glad this idea was destroyed but I for one would have no problems having a donate option beside those mods. Like I mean.. some mods are brilliant and deserve some mula thrown their way but I was gob smacked when I saw some swords and utter bullshit for sale... I mean 4.69 for some shitty mod is pathetic and they deserve to have HATE directed towards them now.

I had no issues with steam until now.. I will purchase The Witcher 3 on GOG because of this stunt and bethesda.. I dunno what to say :/

 

[BiggieShady]

What a glorious clusterfuck .... I couldn't agree more about the damage being already done.
Whatever new project will be a test polygon for mod paywall, I just hope it fails miserably.
I'm still shocked how no one thought that maybe, just maybe, the mod community is so vibrant and so tight exactly because mods are free, quality is determined by endorsements and quality mod authors get rewards through donations. That already was a pretty equal playing field for all modders and also no biggie if a mod doesn't work.
Imagine having to sift through thousands of paid mods, all of them doing the similar things and therefore clashing with each other, all half arsed, all not worth the money, all need to be bought to see which suits your preferences the most. Those mistake purchases can be very lucrative for Bethesda and Valve.
Player who felt safe on the Nexus suddenly feel like he or she is being robbed or buying a cat in a bag.
Nexus is asking everyone to turn off adblock for them to keep afloat, imagine them asking for a paid subscription. There is a very good reason they won't do that, they know they would loose userbase and perish quickly if they try.
Also, how Gabe didn't see this coming knowing that selling hats in TF2 became the well known meme

 

[rtwjunkie]

@RCoon, @Irish_PXzryan If you wish to show monetary appreciation, rather than being strongarmed, alot of the mods on The Nexus have a donate option. It's a really nice gesture on top of clicking "endorse" for some of the really brilliant mods.

 

[Irish_PXzyan]

I never use nexus so I never knew that there was a donate option! that's very good and the right thing to do but I hope that valve will allow that option on all mods as it's fair on everyone and especially those modders who spend hundreds of hours on wonderful mods.

 

[RCoon]

@RCoon, @Irish_PXzryan If you wish to show monetary appreciation, rather than being strongarmed, alot of the mods on The Nexus have a donate option. It's a really nice gesture on top of clicking "endorse" for some of the really brilliant mods.

Yeah I'm signed up to Nexus, I used only around 63 mods from them. I dropped the Falskaar gentleman a $5 donation back when it first game out (because it was top notch stuff and made me reinstall the game again)

 

[erocker]

This isn't going to last.

What was it? 4 days?

 

[BiggieShady]

What was it? 4 days?

Remarkable, considering Valve and Bethesda have been discussing how to go about it since 2012.

 

[dorsetknob]

A week ago, gaming darling Valve set up an online store allowing designers to sell game mods. Now, after a backlash from gamers, the Half-Life biz has shut it down.

After days of protest, Valve has written off the store as an epic fail of judgement.

Full story here if you can believe them
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/28/valve_mods_skyrim_u_turn/

 

[Irish_PXzyan]

@RCoon : Now there ya have it right there sir! That's what I'm talking about, you deemed that mod worthy of purchase so you donated 5 bucks and that's a really nice donation at that. That mod is very good and deserves mula thrown its way and I for one also reinstalled Skyrim once I saw so many amazing mods to the game, truly.. mods have changed a great game into a smashing wonder game!

Tiz amazing how valve got greedy and wanted to make more mula off of peoples great free time work! laughable! absolutely astoundingfulllyyyy disgraceful!!! I will only purchase from steam if forced to now unless they redeem themselves by offering a huge big fat sorry to everyone for there stupidity and greedy and throw there loyal uses a 50 buck redemption gift card or something.

anyway! Good man RCoon :L

Edit: sorry if this came off as a bit of a rant.. bit I was listening to the Prodigy Live from a free source called youtube and drinking a nice cool chilled cider at that. I don't mean to be offensive or a smart ass. Not usually.