Is it time for Windows 10 already?

[Frick]

Hey, guys I'm wondering what should I do?
I went from w7 Ulti to w8 Pro + MC $15 Upgrade. Now I want to do w10, BUT I plan on doing a full system upgrade end of year so am I better off waiting till then or do my upgrade now OR am I screwed because of getting new MB?

This really depends on how it works with retail licenses.

 

[P4-630]

Same boat...of the three laptops in my sig that are running Windows 7, I only received it on one. All of them have SP1, but the two I didn't receive it on are newer installs.

Best,

Liquid Cool

I hope M$ will fix this soon, so that we can get this update as well.

 

[Caring1]

Hey, guys I'm wondering what should I do?
I went from w7 Ulti to w8 Pro + MC $15 Upgrade. Now I want to do w10, BUT I plan on doing a full system upgrade end of year so am I better off waiting till then or do my upgrade now OR am I screwed because of getting new MB?

As long as you have the new Motherboard installed inside the 12 month free upgrade period you will qualify and be able to upgrade.
If you change the Motherboard outside this period, then you will have to purchase Win 10, if you change the Motherboard after installing the free version of Win 10, then you will have to buy a new version.

 

[RCoon]

Apparently once activated you can do a fresh clean install of Windows 10 with the free upgrade. No details specifically, as it was a Twitter message

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9334/...-can-clean-install-windows-10-after-upgrading

Looks like we may be able to do a fresh OS install after all. Will probably just require you to make recovery media that is essentially a Windows 10 installation disk.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

•If you have Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 8 Pro with Media Center, or Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center and you install Windows 10, Windows Media Center will be removed.
•Watching DVDs requires separate playback software
•Windows 7 desktop gadgets will be removed as part of installing Windows 10.
•If you have a USB floppy drive, you will need to download the latest driver from Windows Update or from the manufacturer's website.

Those points are bull. What about TV tuners that run using Windows Media Center? DVD playback should be standard in all operating systems and they elect to remove the feature altogether!?! I can live with no gadgets but I'd rather not. I keep a second clock on my secondary monitor so I can always see the time even when in a game. And how could Microsoft not include a standard USB FDD driver? I've used my NEC USB drive on a crazy assortment of computers and it always works without drivers. Something so simple that is obviously supported in Windows 8, why would they scrap it other than to be assholes? I think Microsoft hit its head against a wall a few too many times because of the failure of Windows 8.

These are all reasons to give Windows 10 the finger. I think Microsoft will migrate a lot of users to Windows 10 because of the free upgrade but I think a lot will also refuse to upgrade as well (or even downgrade). The more I learn about what Windows 10 can't do, the less interested I get.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Those points are bull. What about TV tuners that run using Windows Media Center? DVD playback should be standard in all operating systems and they elect to remove the feature altogether!?! I can live with no gadgets but I'd rather not. I keep a second clock on my secondary monitor so I can always see the time even when in a game. And how could Microsoft not include a standard USB FDD driver? I've used my NEC USB drive on a crazy assortment of computers and it always works without drivers. Something so simple that is obvious supported in Windows 8, why would they scrap it other than to be assholes? I think Microsoft hit its head against a wall a few too many times because of the failure of Windows 8.

These are all reasons to give Windows 10 the finger. I think Microsoft will migrate a lot of users to Windows 10 because of this but I think a lot will also refuse to upgrade as well (or even downgrade). The more I learn about what Windows 10 can't do, the less interested I get.

I have to agree about nearly all of this. It presents me with a dilemna regarding my HTPC, which runs W7 and Media Center. Sure Media Center is not a great thing, but it does have its uses.

I view my movie collection using a program called MyMovies (http://www.mymovies.dk/), which has a very large worldwide user base. It consists of two programs, one for the MyMovies client (my HTPC), and the other for the MyMovies provider, which is on my server. The server rips the DVD and saves it losslessly, maintains the client database and streams to the client. The client program was designed to work within Media Center.

Sure there are many other programs that can do similarly, but this is the only program which streams and plays movies at true DVD or BluRay quality. As you can imagine, many of the tens of thousands of members are upset. So, the website owners are recommending, for now, for people running MyMovies to keep W7, since it is supported until 2019, or W8.1, which is supported until 2023. this gives them time to design a program for W10 that will be a Media Center replacement and still allow DVD quality streaming.

Sure, there are many other programs to use on the client end which basically work with the server side of MyMovies, including Kodi (which does work with the Server side of things), but there are problems with the use of the movie database, and the streaming is not played at true DVD/BluRay quality. Alot of members have tried, but website owners confirm they only designed it to work that way with Media Center. A shortsighted failing perhaps on their part, yes, but that doesn't fix my situation. So, I have a choice on the HTPC: stick with 7 like I have now, or quickly get 8.1 and buy the Media Center add-on to tide me over there until a replacement is designed by MyMovies.dk. Either way, that's one unit I cannot upgrade to W10.

 

[R-T-B]

Windows 10 will probably offer Media Center as an add-on I am guessing, just like Windows 8.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Windows 10 means no more Media Center, even if you paid for it

 

[R-T-B]

Thanks. That clears it up though is certainly disappointing.

 

[Liquid Cool]

I hope M$ will fix this soon, so that we can get this update as well.

P4, just wanted to drop back in to tell you post #11 in this thread solved my problems....

Click Here

Best,

Liquid Cool

 

[Delta6326]

As long as you have the new Motherboard installed inside the 12 month free upgrade period you will qualify and be able to upgrade.
If you change the Motherboard outside this period, then you will have to purchase Win 10, if you change the Motherboard after installing the free version of Win 10, then you will have to buy a new version.

Ok so would this work then, at end of year order all parts for new pc, then put the new SSD in old computer switch W8.1 to it then move it into the new system and install W10?
or
just simply take my W8 disk put it on new system SSD update to 8.1 then upgrade to W10?

I maybe overthinking this.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

For those that don't have the tray notification.


If you don’t think any of these conditions apply to you, and you’re still not seeing the icon, you can also try running the solution below, which will verify your device meets all the prerequisites and then turn on the Get Windows 10 app:

1. Open Notepad
2. Copy the following text and paste it into Notepad:

REG QUERY "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\UpgradeExperienceIndicators" /v UpgEx | findstr UpgEx

if "%errorlevel%" == "0" GOTO RunGWX

reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Appraiser" /v UtcOnetimeSend /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"

:CompatCheckRunning

schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"

schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

if NOT "%errorlevel%" == "0" ping localhost >nul &goto :CompatCheckRunning

:RunGWX

schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\refreshgwxconfig"

1. Click File, and then Save As
2. In the File name box, change the file name to ReserveWin10.cmd
   
   
3. Then click the dropdown next to Save as type, and select All files (*.*)
   
   
4. Select the folder you would like to save the file to.For this example, let’s choose to save the file to the C:/Temp folder.Then click Save.
   
   
5. Open an elevated command prompt.(From the Start screen or Start menu, type Command Prompt in the search box, and then in the list of results, right-click Command Prompt, and selectRun as administrator.)
   
   
6. Finally, run the file from the location you saved to in Step 6.In this example, you would type the following in the Command Prompt window and hit Enter:
   
   C:/Temp/ReserveWin10.cmd
   

The Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser can take 10 – 30 minutes to run, during which the script will continuously provide status reports that it is running. Please be patient.

If the script is failing in an infinite loop, then you don’t have the necessary prerequisite Windows Updates. Besides requiring Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1 Update, you must also have installed:

For Windows 7 SP1:

KB3035583

KB2952664

For Windows 8.1 Update:

KB3035583

KB2976978

 

[ChevyOwner]

There was word that Windows 10 was going to cost ~$200 for Pro and Home will be ~$120. Seems marginally more expensive than both 7 and 8.1

Thank god I got 8.1 Pro for £15. I'll take the free upgrade.

I hope they don't add stupid ram limits like the did with Windows 7 x64 Home Basic, and Home Premium.
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit cant use more then 16GB of RAM.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Most motherboards can officially support 32 GB. They better make all versions support at least that much.

 

[P4-630]

P4, just wanted to drop back in to tell you post #11 in this thread solved my problems....

Click Here

Best,

Liquid Cool

Thanks a lot man, it worked!
Downloaded and installed the update, and reserved the windows 10 upgrade!

Edit: For anyone who still needs the KB3035583 update:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d..._d6308e28c41fcbd15695343d83709ed1c4bf5812.msu

 

[Caring1]

just simply take my W8 disk put it on new system SSD update to 8.1 then upgrade to W10?

You just answered yourself

 

[Delta6326]

Confirmed can do fresh install
http://www.eteknix.com/microsoft-confirm-ability-clean-install-windows-10/

 

[Mussels]

I want to use this, but also want clean installs only... i wonder if theres a method like 8.0 to 8.1 with a dummy key, then putting in the 8.0 key later.

 

[GreiverBlade]

I want to use this, but also want clean installs only... i wonder if theres a method like 8.0 to 8.1 with a dummy key, then putting in the 8.0 key later.

the answer was above?

Confirmed can do fresh install
http://www.eteknix.com/microsoft-confirm-ability-clean-install-windows-10/

 

[Mussels]

the answer was above?

i mean, how do i upgrade my 7/8 keys to work with a clean ISO install. installing one OS to upgrade over the top is not acceptable to me.

 

[GreiverBlade]

i mean, how do i upgrade my 7/8 keys to work with a clean ISO install. installing one OS to upgrade over the top is not acceptable to me.

as far as i read the article talk about ... for fresh install ... (mostly using the original 7/8 key if i read correctly ...)

"Now Gabe Aul has confirmed that the upgrade will also work as an ISO to be able to perform a clean install. This will come as welcome news to a great proportion of the community who will want to wipe clean their storage drives to get the best possible performance"

ah ... will work as a ISO ...

well maybe just like how you do a MAC OSX 10.10 USB key using a previous revision and downloading the files before making a Key/DVD for fresh install?

 

[Ja.KooLit]

i guess reinstalling windows 10 is always re installing within windows....

Takes alot of time if its like me that atleast every 6 months I reinstall my windows from ISO file and using my key.

man. but you know there is always alot of ways.

 

[RejZoR]

Stupid Windows 10 popups every friggin day. I'll have to watch this crap till the end of July!?!?!?!? WIndows 10 is ready balbalbla. No it's not ready, you just announced it god damn it, stop bugging me.

 

[P4-630]

Stupid Windows 10 popups every friggin day. I'll have to watch this crap till the end of July!?!?!?!? WIndows 10 is ready balbalbla. No it's not ready, you just announced it god damn it, stop bugging me.

If you are not interested in Windows 10, you can remove this program from your PC. Go to Windows Update->Installed update, remove KB3035583. Also, you need to hide the update again in windows updates to prevent it from auto installing again since this is marked “important”.

btw I don't get this popup, only when I click on the icon

 

[RejZoR]

I am interested, but I'm not interested in a damn stupid popup saying "Windows 10 is ready" when it clearly isn't. I don't get it, I've filled in the form so I'll get notified about it when it'll be actually released. But I'm getting "notifications" already, every day...