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They're saying the game's easily over 400 hours long.

Speaking during an E3 2015 roundtable, the game's Lead Producer, Jeff Gardiner, said that he had “played the game probably for 400 hours, and I’m still finding stuff that I haven’t seen yet.”

As is usually the case with Bethesda’s RPG’s, players can usually expect to set aside a hundred hours or so to get properly stuck into them. Fallout 4, on the other hand, looks to take that expectation and essentially quadruple it.

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Easy. I have over 800 hours into Skyrim and I barely touched the main quest :D
 
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Easy. I have over 800 hours into Skyrim and I barely touched the main quest :D

Well, Skyrim was advertised as being 300 hours long, and you and probably others have over 800 hours.
Assuming FO4 was similarly advertised, as being over 400 hours long, it probably means that we'd easily be getting over 1000 or more hours of gameplay! :rockout:
 

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Well, Skyrim was advertised as being 300 hours long, and you and probably others have over 800 hours.
Assuming FO4 was similarly advertised, as being over 400 hours long, it probably means that we'd easily be getting over 1000 or more hours of gameplay! :rockout:

....unless they want us to pay for the mods....
 
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Game looks fantastic to me. I can't wait to get into the crafting side of things. Building my own house and then town is awesome. Also I love that we will be able to use a tablet as a second screen for the pip boy.
Gonna pre-order the hard copy of this game.

As far as mods go I am not worried about it. I can play any of their games without mods. Mods are cool but if I have to pay for them then I will just skip mods all together. No biggie to me.
 
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....unless they want us to pay for the mods....
There will be no paid mods for Fallout 4, at least that's the current official statement.
 
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There will be no paid mods for Fallout 4, at least that's the current official statement.

To expand upon this:
Original article: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/games/fallout-4-interview-mit-entwickler-todd-howard-a-1039395.html
Translation: https://translate.google.com/transl...todd-howard-a-1039395.html&edit-text=&act=url

From the article we can glean that:
1) Mods will not initially be something that Bethesda charges for.
2) Bethesda has stated explicitly that they have no current plans, without discounting them in the future.
3) Bethesda is intelligent enough to learn from the backlash of this event. That puts them head-and-shoulders above EA in my book.
4) VATS, a single companion, and a single player experienced focus are returning.


With that statement, I'm closer to actually wanting to preorder this game. Modding is confirmed, and will share the donation to the artist system that is currently working. The game is supposed to be huge, but not be 18,000 shades of brown and gray. Crafting is included, so each and every item will finally be what I want. Heck, even being able to build yourself a home (given, it's limited areas like Skyrim) sounds like they took everything good from the last decade and brought it together. I can't say that it won't yet find a way to face-palm, but if we're lucky it might just be the Bethesda release bug fiesta.
 
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Honestly the improvement I think I saw that I am most excited about are the improved bullet ballistics. It looked at though bullets actually went where you aimed. Who knows how this will translate to longer ranges and other weapons. But I have hopes.
 
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What I'm hoping for in FO4:

I'm hoping for improvement in AI, hopefully NPC's won't be so excited each and every time they see my character as if they are all dementia sufferers and forgot that we had just met a couple of game-hours before. Only dogs behave like that.

Also hoping that I won't be getting stern words from NPC's whenever I merely look at a locked/steal-able item! It gets irritating, even more so when the NPC in question has no obvious interest in protecting such property. I mean come on Lucy West, why did you tell me to keep my hands off that ashtray in Moriarty's bar? I was only resting my cursor, erm, looking at it, with no intention to steal. And it's not even yours! :p

I'm also hoping that we are able to give items like medicine, armor and weapons to NPC's without having to do it underhand by reverse pick-pocketing, losing karma along the way and getting the whole neighborhood to attack you if we get caught! I mean come on, I'm giving you something for free which is far from stealing. It makes sense to have an option to do so which would be separate from pick-pocketing. A bonus would be to have karma increase when donating items in this manner.

And finally I hope to see some fine-tuning in the game, which might seem unimportant but could be really game-breaking. I mean why the heck have a red cursor just to turn a radio on or off? I had just saved the day, got the purifier running, was chatting nonchalantly to the scribe who was giving me more jobs and everyone was thanking me profusely for my courage. There was that radio on the shelf, I turned it on, missing that the cursor was red....... and voila' everybody immediately forgot about all the mutants I killed and how I had saved the wasteland and my body got peppered with bullets, plasma and laser rays just for having switched on a radio. I was so immersed in the game and found this reaction so senseless that I didn't lift a finger to defend myself and just loaded a previous save!
 
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I just started F:New Vegas and now this comes out this year I think I need more hours a day, 24h is not enough.
 
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What I'm hoping for in FO4
Bethesda is also hoping all that will be taken care of for them by one of those unofficial community patches :laugh: God I hope I'm wrong about that this time round
 
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Honestly the improvement I think I saw that I am most excited about are the improved bullet ballistics. It looked at though bullets actually went where you aimed. Who knows how this will translate to longer ranges and other weapons. But I have hopes.

I have 0 problems with ballistics in New Vegas.
Well,except that Vintorez,can never get that one right :(
 

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I have 0 problems with ballistics in New Vegas.
Well,except that Vintorez,can never get that one right :(

I too found New Vegas ballistics to be very good, so only used VATS occasionally.
 
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I have 0 problems with ballistics in New Vegas.
Well,except that Vintorez,can never get that one right :(

I too found New Vegas ballistics to be very good, so only ised VATS occasionally.

playing through it again now, same. i think the issues were with fallout 3 being off, not new vegas.

new vegas fully patched with all DLC feels really damn solid.

Fallout 4 will run at “1080p and 30 FPS on everything”

http://wccftech.com/fallout-4-run-1080p-30-fps/#ixzz3dkSM0vFO
we all know that wont be the case on PC.
 
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we all know that wont be the case on PC.

That depends on how they handle it. One of the recent Need for Speed games I looked into was locked to 30fps on PC, and while you could raise the cap it doing so would normally break the game. Sometimes the game would run too fast, and other if it dropped below the new cap it would run worse then if the cap was left at 30.

I hope they don't do something like that but we wont know until the game is out.

PS
For me at least if the game turns out to be locked to 30fps I probably wont buy it.
 
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I do not see a problem with an FPS lock as much because it keeps framerates level.
 

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I do not see a problem with an FPS lock as much because it keeps framerates level.

people with 144Hz monitors would disagree.

they mentioned 1080p and 30FPS in the same sentence which we know cant apply to PC, since we can change the resolution.
 

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they mentioned 1080p and 30FPS in the same sentence which we know cant apply to PC, since we can change the resolution.

You forgot about The Evil Within debacle, running 30FPS on 1080P? Only public outcry and a patch semi-fixed that IIRC.
 
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Here..Look @ these New Vegas shots..Oh look,there's a fiend down there..I got something for him.



I'd say the shooting mechanics are lovey-dovey.That's pretty much 2-300 yds range.
The new one better be as good,or I'll keep rocking New Vegas or Skyrim :p
edit:You have to edit the ballistics yourself ;)
 

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Video Card(s) eVga GTX1060 SSC \ XFX RX 6950XT RX-695XATBD9
Storage Sammy 860, MX500, Sabrent Rocket 4 Sammy Evo 980 \ 1xSabrent Rocket 4+, Sammy 2x990 Pro
Display(s) Samsung 1080P \ LG 43UN700
Case Fractal Design Pop Air 2x140mm fans from Torrent \ Fractal Design Torrent 2 SilverStone FHP141x2
Audio Device(s) Yamaha RX-V677 \ Yamaha CX-830+Yamaha MX-630 Infinity RS4000\Paradigm P Studio 20, Blue Yeti
Power Supply Seasonic Prime TX-750 \ Corsair RM1000X Shift
Mouse Steelseries Sensei wireless \ Steelseries Sensei wireless
Keyboard Logitech K120 \ Wooting Two HE
Benchmark Scores Meh benchmarks.
Fallout 4 - FULL E3 2015 GAMEPLAY PRESENTATION ( 30 minutes long )
 
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