Now knowing the performance of Fury X, what would you choose?

[kiddagoat]

I love hearing all this back and forth from people that would never buy a GPU in this price range to begin with...... this arguing and fanboyism is pretty petty..... you like what you like and keep it at that. Just because someone has a different opinion than you doesn't mean you should flame them for it.... very few civil debates and discussions lately....

Also I see a lot of these keyboard engineers...... Most of you probably don't know how to read a spec sheet or really know what goes into making such products..... I mean you see a block diagram and some slides and soon all are experts.....

Both cards are engineering feats given that 28nm was not supposed to last this long... Kuddos to both sides for making the most with what they have.

I owned a 980Ti (reference) for a few weeks and now I have my Fury X, I would be pleased with both. I just am drawn more the to Fury X for aesthetics and noise. The card is audible... no whine, no noise, no anything. It is silent. I could hear the 980Ti's fan rev up from time to time but nothing crazy and that was with my headphones on. Even with them off you could tell the fan was on but nothing off putting.

Both cards are good and both are more than capable of playing whatever AAA titles are coming out this year and the years to come.... unless you really are looking for that 4K monitor but until they are 120hz/144hz, I will pass... I am spoiled by the high refresh rates I have now...

 

[BiggieShady]

I can't tell if you're trolling, or just too lazy to read the rest of it.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

@kiddagoat ..completely off topic but possibly more interesting, is your avatar a Hubble pic or Chandra?

 

[RejZoR]

Oh my god, people still going on how R9-285 was released to replace R9-280X... No, no no no. No. NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Then why wasn't there any other silicon to replace R9-280, R9-270 and all the lower models? Why it never replaced the R9-290?

I mean c'mon people, am I the only one who has seen test cards with new tech being released during the time when old ones are very much actual and being sold? It really isn't the first time this happened...

 

[kiddagoat]

@CAPSLOCKSTUCK ...... I do not remember actually.... It has been my picture for awhile....

 

[rtwjunkie]

I love hearing all this back and forth from people that would never buy a GPU in this price range to begin with...... this arguing and fanboyism is pretty petty..... you like what you like and keep it at that. Just because someone has a different opinion than you doesn't mean you should flame them for it.... very few civil debates and discussions lately....

Also I see a lot of these keyboard engineers...... Most of you probably don't know how to read a spec sheet or really know what goes into making such products..... I mean you see a block diagram and some slides and soon all are experts.....

Both cards are engineering feats given that 28nm was not supposed to last this long... Kuddos to both sides for making the most with what they have.

I owned a 980Ti (reference) for a few weeks and now I have my Fury X, I would be pleased with both. I just am drawn more the to Fury X for aesthetics and noise. The card is audible... no whine, no noise, no anything. It is silent. I could hear the 980Ti's fan rev up from time to time but nothing crazy and that was with my headphones on. Even with them off you could tell the fan was on but nothing off putting.

Both cards are good and both are more than capable of playing whatever AAA titles are coming out this year and the years to come.... unless you really are looking for that 4K monitor but until they are 120hz/144hz, I will pass... I am spoiled by the high refresh rates I have now...

Very well said!

Unfortunately it won't end the debate due to the title "What would you choose", which is completely subjective. I'm pretty sure the debate will continue from both sides.

 

[HD64G]

Actually, in 1080P in over half the benchmarks didn't the 980Ti and sometimes even the 980 beat it? So that's not a "destroyed everything." At least that's what I remember from W1zzard's benchmarks.

Destroyed everything=games thrown to it

 

[SonicZap]

Oh my god, people still going on how R9-285 was released to replace R9-280X... No, no no no. No. NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Then why wasn't there any other silicon to replace R9-280, R9-270 and all the lower models? Why it never replaced the R9-290?

Tonga replaced everything Tahiti, that includes both R9 280X and R9 280. Pitcairn (R9 270) is still competitive and so replacing it hasn't been worth it. As for Hawaii, Tonga's not powerful enough and AMD probably didn't want to spend their limited R&D funds on designing a replacement when Hawaii can still compete with GTX 970/980 in raw performance.

I think it's fairly clear if you look at AMD's 300 series lineup. Pitcairn (R7 265) is still there as R7 370, Hawaii is still there as R9 390(X), but there's no Tahiti in R9 380 because at that spot they now have Tonga, which is cheaper to produce and performs almost as well with fewer resources.

I personally think that Tonga (R9 285) was both a technology experiment (it did contain actual improvements, at least the compression magic) and a replacement for Tahiti (R9 280(X)).

 

[newconroer]

It is 2015, but 99,99% of games are still DX11, meaning you'll have all the bullshit. Things will only change with DX12...

I really do not understand what that means, as a response to my comment.. or was it actually a response?

That's all lovely but have u ever looked at AMD crossfire support . You have 290x CFX now, what did u have before. They never have 0Day support, would u like to see a list of release note known issues listing games without CFX support...?

Man just look at Batman....AMD usual fix....disable Crossfire. Same "fix" as always. They sound like broken record.

From the last ten years, I've had the following in two way setup : GTS 640, GTX 295, Radeon 4870, 4870x2, 6950s, 6970s, and even GTX 670 with hybrid SLI GTX 680.

No cards have day 0 support - at least not when you have to wait six months for a drive improvement (or accumulated improvement) to give you the performance it should have when it comes out. As I said before, this waiting on drivers is a sham and something that has to change about GPUs.

This isn't a multi GPU specific issue and certainly not limited to any brand.

 

[v12dock]

LOL taped out a type-o on the box

 

[Fluffmeister]

The 980 Ti is the better card, let's stop beating up on AMD and their partners and move on.

 

[WelshJester]

I ended up ordering a 980Ti, AMD seem to be marketing this card to 4K where it performs best, but imo performance isn't there to justify it and won't be for quite some time with single GPU setups. At that kind of resolution users will need to upgrade far more often to keep up with newer games.

Performance of the Fury seems quite decent at 1440p, still not up to 980Ti standard though, and falls behind even more @ 1080p.. And with prices as they are now it isn't much more expensive to get a good 980Ti over a Fury x.

I'm also not interested in dual cards or multiple GPU's until micro stuttering doesn't exist anymore, so until that happens i will always go for the best for the money single GPU.

 

[RejZoR]

I think the reason for Fury to suck at lower resolutions is the lack of ROP units. Can't explain it any other way. They did work on the bandwidth heavily, but they left ROP count the same where GTX 980Ti increased the ROP count significantly. Seeing how GTX 980Ti performs a lot better than GTX970/GTX980 in lower res, that can be the only explanation imo.

I still like Fury, but it really doesn't make all that much sense for my situation. I too would benefit more from getting a GTX 980 or GTX 980Ti. Hell, R9-390X seems like a better option even. That's why I'm wondering where will vanilla Fury fall in. That's really the last thing I'm waiting for. Hearing how the R9 Nano will be focused on efficiency over performance doesn't give me allt hat much hope for performance over my current card...

 

[newtekie1]

Well with any aftermarket cooler the same could be said...However for starters Asus did a 0gb R9 390X cooler so its still possible (The idle power usage is the same across the board so its the same possibility as with the GTX 980ti) in the long run (At least maybe on the regular Fury, though I had not heard they were completely denying the Fury X from having other coolers as well).

We aren't talking about the 390X, the Fury X will not have aftermarket coolers, AMD has already said reference designs only.

To top that off 30db area is considered to be whisper quiet, so I doubt either of these cards are noticeable enough at idle in a case to be a real bother. Plus idle is only when your browsing the web or doing something of low intensity, load is where the noise is going to be since your gaming in which the cooler is still quieter than the EVGA card...

It definitely isn't whisper quiet, I've heard a Fury X in a case, I just built a system today with one. The rest of the PC is silent at idle, the pump is loud as fuck. Almost as bad as annoying coil whine. Except coil whine is usually covered up by fan noise under load. At idle, the noise is very noticeable. Not to mention when the card is under load you either have headphones on or the sound from the game coming from the speakers to cover up the sound of the computer. At idle that won't be the case a lot of the time. So I'd say quiet at idle is a lot more important than quiet at load. And besides, if we are going by your website, a 3db change is "barely perceptible". So, in other words, no difference.

Point is, the area where these cards sit at idle is already low enough to not bother anyone in a standard computer environment. 0db is really nice at idle and will be possible as well on a Fury card later on but the cards are already so quiet at idle in this day and age its pretty irrelevant.

Again, no it won't be possible on a Fury X card later on. And it definitely is audible when idle.

 

[RejZoR]

Additional ~3dB means double the loudness (mileage may vary depending on the frequency of the noise). I wouldn't say "barely perceptable"...

 

[v12dock]

The pump has some noise to it but I wouldn't say its "loud as fuck" overall its a quite card.

 

[RejZoR]

I think I know what I'll do now. Sleep with the devil. I've thrown my eyes on ASUS GTX 980 Strix OC and I think I'll just go and pick one next week. In my scenarios, it'll perform as good as the Fury X, cost less, since it's Strix it's also incredibly silent and well, it scored perfect 10.0 on TPU review.
I'm not a big fan of NVIDIA, but I have to admit it here, the most impressive is the performance/noise ratio. I know not many people really look at this, but I sleep in the same room as I have PC and noise is incredibly important. And with 30dB and load, it's very hard to beat.

It'll cost me 655€ which is a bit, but I'm not that mad at changing cards every year and I think I'll have plenty of headroom + proper DX12.1 support. So I guess it can justify it.

 

[Jaffakeik]

THis time I'm switching to Nvidia 980Ti, sorry to leave u behind AMD

 

[RejZoR]

I've been on Radeon cards for several generations now, maybe it won't be bad to give NVIDIA a try again. Only reason why I'm not going with GTX 980Ti is because the reference ones are 720€ and with aftermarket coolers go for over 800€ and that's a bit ridiculous and they aren't even the ones I want. For 655€ I'll get an aftermarket OC-ed version of regular GTX 980 which I think is a decent value. Then we'll see with Pascal and Arctic Islands...

 

[met]

picked this up 2 weeks ago and i am beyond happy! haven't shut up about it! so you buy your "high end" cards that play games not even CREATED for it yet and the games which are, can be played on MB video of ANY NEW PC. i'll play old and current games with enjoyment and still not the least bit upset i paid $20; thats how planned obsolescence works! you will find out, but it cost YOU$650 LMAO! but the scary, THE REAL scary thing? is probably 99% of you used AOL, and cant even diagnose or actually USE a computer for what it was intended! in case you missed it, it wasn't made for playing games! side effect of sitting there with a deck of cards versus putting the card game in to the system. seriously solitaire is the first game on the PC (next to maybe minesweeper) because it wasnt made for "this". it became this from FREAKSLIKEYOU!

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[purecain]

well I will get a month to play with the card, if I don't like it... back to the shop it goes... tbh im more likely to mod the cooling with a better fan at the very least... maybe even switch out the radiator for the one im using on my 290x...

I don't get coil whine as I use vsync when playing games....

if the performance of the card proves to be poor, well then i'll just buy another and another... the joy of not giving a damn and having plenty of cash on the hip.... makes life much more fun...

although if thats the case, this will be the last time I support AMD. you have no idea how much I wanted a 980ti....

btw... if I had gone with a 980 ti it would of arrived this morning...

also if you think the performance is bad then check how it performs in real time in 8 gpu intensive titles. theres nothing in it.

 

[Vayra86]

picked this up 2 weeks ago and i am beyond happy! haven't shut up about it! so you buy your "high end" cards that play games not even CREATED for it yet and the games which are, can be played on MB video of ANY NEW PC. i'll play old and current games with enjoyment and still not the least bit upset i paid $20; thats how planned obsolescence works! you will find out, but it cost YOU$650 LMAO! but the scary, THE REAL scary thing? is probably 99% of you used AOL, and cant even diagnose or actually USE a computer for what it was intended! in case you missed it, it wasn't made for playing games! side effect of sitting there with a deck of cards versus putting the card game in to the system. seriously solitaire is the first game on the PC (next to maybe minesweeper) because it wasnt made for "this". it became this from FREAKSLIKEYOU!

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[Frag_Maniac]

Didn't notice W1zzard already did a review on the Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti G1 gaming two weeks ago, but so far it looks like the best single GPU to go with. It almost doubles the FPS of one 970 in some games at 4K. Just averaging 15% better than a ref 980 Ti though makes it well worth the extra $40.

Gigabyte does it again. I can't believe it's only 11.6" long too. Should even fit in a lot of micro cases.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Very well said!

Unfortunately it won't end the debate due to the title "What would you choose", which is completely subjective. I'm pretty sure the debate will continue from both sides.

well at last my dilemma ended ... i didn't choose it i did won it ... altho i would prefer a Fury X the pricing in Switzerland killed it ... it range now from 730chf to ... 1730chf (c'mon what do they smoke ... 1730 really??? )
so i have to go with a 980 for my 290 upgrade (due to a giveaway sad it's not a Ti but still a good card ) see ... i am sided to none ... but i tend to support a bit more AMD for me the best is the Fury X (if the pricing would be different ... ) and the best contestant the 980Ti .... both are on a equal foot for me... i let the Titan X out of that ... it's not a card ... it's a trophy to put a "look i have money and i can show it" (imho and only imho )