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I'll try this, because the latest official WHQL driver is crashing all over the place. Haven't had any game for more than 10 minutes before it crashes.
well the latest being 353.50 ---- the 353.58 is effectively the hotfix for that ... i had no CTD nor crash since i applied that one
 
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Can I just install driver over the old one like I was able with Radeons or do I have to uninstall old ForceWare first?
 
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it's a hotfix ... i did install it without uninstalling the old one, no problems whatsoever.
 

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Can I just install driver over the old one like I was able with Radeons or do I have to uninstall old ForceWare first?

You haven't had to uninstall nVidia drivers before installing a new one in quite a while. I occasionally hit the clean install option, but usually I just install the new over the old, I haven't done a true uninstall of drivers on my main rig since I built it almost a year ago.
 
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You haven't had to uninstall nVidia drivers before installing a new one in quite a while. I occasionally hit the clean install option, but usually I just install the new over the old, I haven't done a true uninstall of drivers on my main rig since I built it almost a year ago.
confirmed ... even a downgrade from 353.38 to 347.88 :D
 
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Can I just install driver over the old one like I was able with Radeons or do I have to uninstall old ForceWare first?
You haven't had to uninstall nVidia drivers before installing a new one in quite a while. I occasionally hit the clean install option, but usually I just install the new over the old, I haven't done a true uninstall of drivers on my main rig since I built it almost a year ago.
how much space is this folder using? C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\

i used to install overtop when i had my 4870x2 for a few years... then noticed windows keeps a copy of the old driver which resulted in GIGABYTES of useless files

for nvidia, i use the clean install checkbox (without uninstalling the previous), i am confirming this clears the windows copy, i dont know what happens if you dont use the checkbox (truly installing overtop)

no a hotfix is not a hotfix, it's a whole standalone 300mb driver like any other... a hotfix would be a few mb that replaces the needed files, why arent these companies doing that!?
 
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Ok, fiddling with PC at midnight. Totally re-arranged the cooling. Antec H2O is now on the exhaust, top case fan was removed and replaced by a clear plastic sheet to block noise and reroute air (since fan doesn't fit there due to Antec covering it) and front fans are now perfectly clear, sucking only cool air in. If it'll still be crashing it can't be heat.

I've also plugged watt-o-meter to the wall socket to monitor power usage but it would be absolutely weird if single GTX 980 would max a high quality 750W PSU...
 
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I've also plugged watt-o-meter to the wall socket to monitor power usage but it would be absolutely weird if single GTX 980 would max a high quality 750W PSU...
well my Seasonic does totally fine so your HX... wait ... Corsair ... I HATE CORSAIR! (for PSU and AIO only tho ...) oh wait the OEM for the HX is Seasonic ... oh well they maybe got it good on that one :laugh: oh wait the 650 is Seasonic the 750 seems to be CWT ... I HATE CORS... well whatever ...

my front has the 240mm drawing air in the case and the 240 top for the CPU do the same (both rad have 2 SP120L @1800rpm on it) i have a AF120L @1600rpm to draw "fresh" air on the bottom for the PCH/HDD and GPU and a AF140L @1600rpm on the back as the unique exhaust fan

347.88 now ... perfectly stable and i can finally OC +220/+450 core/mem stable
 
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Seems to be fine now (for now) even with 4,2 GHz CPU profile. Watt meter was showing 460W (out of which 60W is all the external crap that I have connected on the same surge protection). 400W during Killing Floor 2 on Ultra 1080p shouldn't affect a good 750W PSU in any way.
 
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Seems to be fine now (for now) even with 4,2 GHz CPU profile. Watt meter was showing 460W (out of which 60W is all the external crap that I have connected on the same surge protection). 400W during Killing Floor 2 on Ultra 1080p shouldn't affect a good 750W PSU in any way.
with 353.38 or 347.88 remember even with the hotfix, the last driver isn't the best driver anyway... o_O

what are your gpu temps, i'm interested since the Strix is the same PCB and specification as my Poseidon and i've read that the Strix was a bit cooler on air (well ... bigger heatsink tho) 1-2° iirc, tho the water parts of the Poseidon is not like a fullcover (afterall it's only a 6mm copper U tube that run between the fin stack and the vapor chamber) but does quite a good job once the loop is running without bubbles (1st time that i had to do a proper air bleeding on my loop :D )

also EK produce a Strix full cover, tho it would have cost me more for that than the Poseidon itself.
 
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how much space is this folder using? C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\

i used to install overtop when i had my 4870x2 for a few years... then noticed windows keeps a copy of the old driver which resulted in GIGABYTES of useless files

for nvidia, i use the clean install checkbox (without uninstalling the previous), i am confirming this clears the windows copy, i dont know what happens if you dont use the checkbox (truly installing overtop)

no a hotfix is not a hotfix, it's a whole standalone 300mb driver like any other... a hotfix would be a few mb that replaces the needed files, why arent these companies doing that!?

I can confirm that just installing over the old driver doesn't remove the old files from the FileRepository folder.

But it doesn't use that much space. It a little over 5GB, that is nothing, even if you only have a 120GB SSD.
 

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@GreiverBlade 347.88 is working good for you it sounds like?
 
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Because I'm cool, here is the FileRepository editor / cleanup tool named Driver Store Explorer.
https://driverstoreexplorer.codeplex.com

It's only tested on Windows 7 though, but since it's basically a frontend for pnputil.exe it should work on newer OS as well. Technically. Make a System Restore point first...
ok so when you will ever answer one of my question i ask you ... :laugh: it seems as you only read what you want to in my post ;)

also thanks for that tool ;)

@GreiverBlade 347.88 is working good for you it sounds like?
working fine indeed, i can run my games or benchies stable to the end with a substantial +220/+450 oc over factory oc, tho it's still a lower than what review samples got under water, i wonder if putting the pump from 12V to 7-5V would help, since the waterpipe is a 6mm and my tubbing are 13/10mm (3/8" ID)

altho now i am not trusting anyone that will say nvidia driver are superior and more stable... ahah

and as i said once i don't mind a driver downgrade, because i know that the latest driver isn't always the best and not only in GPU, i had to do that for my 8800Ultra and for my FX5900Ultra previously (strangely enough i don't remember doing it with AMD except for legacy support ie: my X1950GT super AGP from Xi and my X800GT from Sapphire)
 
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Sorry, did I miss any of your posts? So, the Poseidon card can be air cooled in addition to the water cooling if you desire to use both? Or is it automatically aur cooled all the time, it only changes whether you run luqid through it or not?

I prefer fixing things than going back to old drivers. I'll only do that if there is a huge issue that can't be resolved any other way. It seems to be working ok now with 353-38 hotfix driver and also overclocked CPU with dropped voltage. All fine *knocks on the wood*
 
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in old driver i Was Crashed in chrome very very Badly.So i uninstall it but now Hooray for NVIDIA to fix thing.
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in old driver i Was Crashed in chrome very very Badly.So i uninstall it but now Hooray for NVIDIA to fix thing.
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well they didn't fix or improved anything, since the 347.88 ... and now i see it :laugh:
Sorry, did I miss any of your posts? So, the Poseidon card can be air cooled in addition to the water cooling if you desire to use both? Or is it automatically aur cooled all the time, it only changes whether you run luqid through it or not?

I prefer fixing things than going back to old drivers. I'll only do that if there is a huge issue that can't be resolved any other way. It seems to be working ok now with 353-38 hotfix driver and also overclocked CPU with dropped voltage. All fine *knocks on the wood*

ahahaha ... you ask a question on my Poseidon instead of answering my question :roll:

that was the question ;)
what are your gpu temps, i'm interested since the Strix is the same PCB and specification as my Poseidon and i've read that the Strix was a bit cooler on air (well ... bigger heatsink tho) 1-2° iirc, tho the water parts of the Poseidon is not like a fullcover (afterall it's only a 6mm copper U tube that run between the fin stack and the vapor chamber) but does quite a good job once the loop is running without bubbles (1st time that i had to do a proper air bleeding on my loop :D ) /QUOTE]

as for the question on air/water on the Poseidon well it's already answered in the post i re quote ;) it use a waterpipe U shaped with a diameter of ~6mm since it's not a real full cover, it work like a hybrid but my fan never exceed 25% on full load

and for the "i prefer fixing things than going back to older driver" you're doing it wrong ... it doesn't work like that with nvidia ... it's not "older" but "better"

on 353.38 i still got some random ingame crash that i don't get in the same circumstance with the 347.88 *knock on wood* too ;)
 
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Well if everything else fails, try the GTA V drivers, still running this driver on my ROG laptop, no problems whatsoever.
 
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I can confirm that just installing over the old driver doesn't remove the old files from the FileRepository folder.

But it doesn't use that much space. It a little over 5GB, that is nothing, even if you only have a 120GB SSD.
5gb is nothing!? on 120gb ssd!?!?! :twitch: it's completely useless & drastically increases if you install every driver that comes out
 

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5gb is nothing!? on 120gb ssd!?!?! :twitch: it's completely useless & drastically increases if you install every driver that comes out

That's why I said I check the clean install option every once in a while. ;)
 
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@GreiverBlade
My temps are at around 72°C in a room that currently has 26°C. It's dead silent.

Am I just imagining things or NVIDIA's FSAA doesn't look as good as AMD's? I've just played Life is Strange, everything cranked to max, 8x SSAA TransparencyAA, FXAA and enabled 4K DSR and I could still see edge aliasing happening. With Radeon, setting pretty much anything at 12xEQAA (with Edge Detect) and I'm pretty certain I got far better results.

The 4K DSR improves things, but it doesn't make it that much better with the famed 4K. Especially with that smoothness setting which blurs the whole image on high levels and doesn't realyl filter much at lower ones. In the end, using FXAA is not only faster but doesn't really look all that much worse really...
 
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@GreiverBlade
My temps are at around 72°C in a room that currently has 26°C. It's dead silent.

Am I just imagining things or NVIDIA's FSAA doesn't look as good as AMD's? I've just played Life is Strange, everything cranked to max, 8x SSAA TransparencyAA, FXAA and enabled 4K DSR and I could still see edge aliasing happening. With Radeon, setting pretty much anything at 12xEQAA (with Edge Detect) and I'm pretty certain I got far better results.

The 4K DSR improves things, but it doesn't make it that much better with the famed 4K. Especially with that smoothness setting which blurs the whole image on high levels and doesn't realyl filter much at lower ones. In the end, using FXAA is not only faster but doesn't really look all that much worse really...
nice temp for the room temp rapport (damn hot where i am now ... around 30 in my room, which would explain why i get 50°c ... and i live at 1250ish meter above sea level and outside it's 37° ... meaning if i was living down in the valley i would have 40ish °c ... hell this is Switzerland not a goddamn tropical island! )

for DSR well ... 2351x1323 is a good compromise and no AA needed so until i get a 1440/1600 27" or above screen ... i'l settle with that, for me 4k DSR is just as a true 4K is : u.s.e.l.e.s.s (well i could buy a 2nd Poseidon that would make a SLI for 1/2 of the actual price o_O and 4k DSR or a 4k screen would barely make sense ... but no ... i have a 27" 1080p and the image quality is good enough, DSR still improved that xD)

for the AA ... well dunno i never used EQAA with my 290 but if i use FXAA no difference i wouldn't even bother to use a AA who is related to one and only one brand ... just like i hate Cuda enabled software on opposit to OpenCL or PhysX ahaha ...(tho as PhysX can be done by the CPU with a AMD GPU i don't mind it that much ... :laugh: )

last output on 347.88 crash are gones ... for good ... didn't had any since i reverted to those driver :D
 
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Any of you guys on windows 10 (I'm on 10162 atm)? Could you please test if the Apollo 11 demo is working for you or not? I get no radiosity at all, shadows are pitch black. (GPU-z also reports no Physx and no OpenCL).
 
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Well if everything else fails, try the GTA V drivers, still running this driver on my ROG laptop, no problems whatsoever.

That one has weird physx glitches for me.
 
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