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I'm' in the process of building a custom Water-Cooled SR-2 based cruncher right now. I just need a pair of x5600 series xeons

Can't wait to see that sexy build! :D

@manofthem I'm quite sure that our Capt'n can take care of your cooling needs but if not shoot me a PM

Thank you for the offer. I'll let you know how things go :respect:
 

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There's a lot of questions floating about in my mind about these xeons. I know the older 1366 xeons can clock, but what about this monster?http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117470

And what is the fascination with xeons? Huge core count? I remember a while ago they were favored by some for enhanced overclockability and stability being a server chip.
 

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Yes- massive core counts, 2P and beyond scaling, and smaller power footprint compared to multiple i7s, etc (farm in a box).

That CPU you linked is just the higher clocked model of what he will be running, the CPU was linked earlier.
 
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But can it overclockable at all?
 
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Boooooo. I'd really like to see an over clocked system with 2 of those 18 core chips running at like 4ghz across all cores... Then watch h.265 encodes fly while being the fastest wcg user in the world while playing 10 instances of crysis at the same time.
 

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Big shout out to @Norton for hooking me up with a cooler. :respect: :respect: plus thanks @T-Bob for offering as well. :respect:
 
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Boooooo. I'd really like to see an over clocked system with 2 of those 18 core chips running at like 4ghz across all cores... Then watch h.265 encodes fly while being the fastest wcg user in the world while playing 10 instances of crysis at the same time.
We won't get this unless AMD challenges Intel at the performance level. The chip companies are being PC and are only going to to bring out lower (I don't know how to say "ever decreasing power consumption") powered chips. I can hear their argument now,"Who needs that much power on their desktop?"
 

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I disagree. These are server chips and nobody really overclocks servers, I don't think. In fact nobody really overclocks anything except a handful of people like us. I'm sure they could easily allow these xeons to be unlocked, or any chip, but they don't. They're just extracting more money from a niche market. That's how I see it anyways...
 

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TDP would go through the roof, motherboard manufacturers would have to build more robust MBs, cooling solutions would need to be enhanced, and the list goes on.

I think what ends up happening with AMDs Zen platform will show us if 300w TDP High Performance CPUs are a near reality or pipe dream.
 

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I disagree. These are server chips and nobody really overclocks servers, I don't think. In fact nobody really overclocks anything except a handful of people like us. I'm sure they could easily allow these xeons to be unlocked, or any chip, but they don't. They're just extracting more money from a niche market. That's how I see it anyways...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1537538/overclocking-x5675-es


x5675 3.06Ghz



















 

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OK, so I finally pulled the trigger on a couple of ES E5-2695's - 14C at 2.3ghz. Will probably go with a SuperMicro X10DAi board unless there are other suggestions. Not ordering the board until I'm sure the chips are being shipped.

Could you clue us in on where you purchased the CPU?
 

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TDP would go through the roof, motherboard manufacturers would have to build more robust MBs, cooling solutions would need to be enhanced, and the list goes on.

I think what ends up happening with AMDs Zen platform will show us if 300w TDP High Performance CPUs are a near reality or pipe dream.

Why can't the Xeons work in existing 2011-v3 boards like as we've seen with 775 and 1366? I would be happy with the ability to drop a single 18c Xeon in a nice OC 2011v3 board and have at it. Then there were things like the Skulltrail and the SR2 that did it with 2 sockets.

While I agree with the idea that 2p and so-on are 99% of the time absolutely not designed for overclocking, I just wish I could see someone take that 18c chip and drop it in an overclocker 2011v3 board and make it scream...
 

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While these CPUs do work in v3 boards I don't think even higher end boards designed to take something like the 5690x to 4.5-4.7 are built well enough to take an 18 or 14 core Xeon to the same speeds- even if by some stroke of magic, Intel decided to release a multi unlocked Xeon.
 

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Well, the TDP of the 5960x and the chip I linked to aren't far apart at all. Though, I admit I don't know much about what all goes into building a motherboard designed for that, and recognize there could be more to it than what I see now.
 

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I'm no expert either but I'm thinking OCing 8 cores by 1ghz is far less demanding on the motherboard's power delivery than taking 14-18 cores and OCing ~2ghz.
 

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I wouldn't expect to push it as far as a 5960x, or very far at all. What I'm missing is the ability to even TRY to do it. Of course, it's all a pipe dream anyway, I could never afford such a system, but I still wish they would let me do it just so I could try somehow, someday in la-la land...
 
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How many PPD can be done with a P4 2.8GHz?

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It had only 2x256MB, just added 2x1GB more.

I'm temptep to hijack that pc for some crunching :laugh: but I'm not sure if worth it.
 
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I'm temptep to hijack that pc for some crunching :laugh: but I'm not sure if worth it.
Some here would say any points are good points whereas others would say it's not worth it.
I myself would say the latter. I think the power bill you'd save with a newer system would quickly outweigh the cost of a new system compared to the P4. (Expect sub 1k ppd)
 
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My power bill stays the same after more than a month of crunching, electricity here is very cheap.
Sooner or later I'll have to give him back that pc but in meantime can use it for crunching.
 

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My power bill stays the same after more than a month of crunching, electricity here is very cheap.
Sooner or later I'll have to give him back that pc but in meantime can use it for crunching.

I would have to agree with @xvi's outlook, but hey, if power isn't an issue and you have the space, might as well run it while you can. In fact, doing so will give us a better idea of what that machine is capable of. All points are important (see what I did there xvi) ;)
 

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Could that 18 core xeon possibly run with the bclk straps on the 2011v3 boards?
 
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Processor i3 2120's/ i7 3770/ x5670's/ i5 2400/Ryzen 2700/Ryzen 2700/R7 3700x
Motherboard HP UltraSlim's/ HP mid size/ Dell T3500 workstation's/ Dell 390/B450 AorusM/B450 AorusM/B550 AorusM
Cooling All stock coolers/Grey has an H-60
Memory 2GB/ 4GB/ 12 GB 3 chan/ 4GB sammy/T-Force 16GB 3200/XPG 16GB 3000/Ballistic 3600 16GB
Video Card(s) HD2000's/ HD 2000/ 1 MSI GT710,2x MSI R7 240's/ HD4000/ Red Dragon 580/Sapphire 580/Sapphire 580
Storage ?HDD's/ 500 GB-er's/ 500 GB/2.5 Samsung 500GB HDD+WD Black 1TB/ WD Black 500GB M.2/Corsair MP600 M.2
Display(s) 1920x1080/ ViewSonic VX24568 between the rest/1080p TV-Grey
Case HP 8200 UltraSlim's/ HP 8200 mid tower/Dell T3500's/ Dell 390/SilverStone Kublai KL06/NZXT H510 W x2
Audio Device(s) Sonic Master/ onboard's/ Beeper's!
Power Supply 19.5 volt bricks/ Dell PSU/ 525W sumptin/ same/Seasonic 750 80+Gold/EVGA 500 80+/Antec 650 80+Gold
Mouse cheap GigaWire930, CMStorm Havoc + Logitech M510 wireless/iGear usb x2/MX 900 wireless kit 4 Grey
Keyboard Dynex, 2 no name, SYX and a Logitech. All full sized and USB. MX900 kit for Grey
Software Mint 18 Sylvia/ Opti-Con Mint KDE/ T3500's on Kubuntu/HP 3770 is Win 10/Win 10 Pro/Win 10 Pro/Win10
Benchmark Scores World Community Grid is my benchmark!!
How many PPD can be done with a P4 2.8GHz?

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A freind of mine asked me to try to revive an old HP DX2000-MT becuase it was too slow.
It had only 2x256MB, just added 2x1GB more.

I'm temptep to hijack that pc for some crunching :laugh: but I'm not sure if worth it.
500 to 700 points avg. I run one on Linux Mint 24-7. It will sometimes run a bit more, depending on the WU.
 
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St. Paul, MN
System Name Bay2- Lowerbay/ HP 3770/T3500-2+T3500-3+T3500-4/ Opti-Con/Orange/White/Grey
Processor i3 2120's/ i7 3770/ x5670's/ i5 2400/Ryzen 2700/Ryzen 2700/R7 3700x
Motherboard HP UltraSlim's/ HP mid size/ Dell T3500 workstation's/ Dell 390/B450 AorusM/B450 AorusM/B550 AorusM
Cooling All stock coolers/Grey has an H-60
Memory 2GB/ 4GB/ 12 GB 3 chan/ 4GB sammy/T-Force 16GB 3200/XPG 16GB 3000/Ballistic 3600 16GB
Video Card(s) HD2000's/ HD 2000/ 1 MSI GT710,2x MSI R7 240's/ HD4000/ Red Dragon 580/Sapphire 580/Sapphire 580
Storage ?HDD's/ 500 GB-er's/ 500 GB/2.5 Samsung 500GB HDD+WD Black 1TB/ WD Black 500GB M.2/Corsair MP600 M.2
Display(s) 1920x1080/ ViewSonic VX24568 between the rest/1080p TV-Grey
Case HP 8200 UltraSlim's/ HP 8200 mid tower/Dell T3500's/ Dell 390/SilverStone Kublai KL06/NZXT H510 W x2
Audio Device(s) Sonic Master/ onboard's/ Beeper's!
Power Supply 19.5 volt bricks/ Dell PSU/ 525W sumptin/ same/Seasonic 750 80+Gold/EVGA 500 80+/Antec 650 80+Gold
Mouse cheap GigaWire930, CMStorm Havoc + Logitech M510 wireless/iGear usb x2/MX 900 wireless kit 4 Grey
Keyboard Dynex, 2 no name, SYX and a Logitech. All full sized and USB. MX900 kit for Grey
Software Mint 18 Sylvia/ Opti-Con Mint KDE/ T3500's on Kubuntu/HP 3770 is Win 10/Win 10 Pro/Win 10 Pro/Win10
Benchmark Scores World Community Grid is my benchmark!!
OK LINUX Penguins, I have a problem.

sudo apt-get install boinc-client boinc-manager

E: Unable to locate package boinc-client
E: Unable to locate package boinc-manager

WTF!!??
Ubuntu 14.04 Finally got it loaded. I can't remember the syntax for update, I think that may be why it can't find it.

Written on MadCruncher!!:D

Tryin' to get this beast crunching!!:lovetpu:
 
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