What's the deal playing Games on Xeons?

[FireFox]

Hi there.
First of all, i don't spend a lot of time in front of a Pc playing Games ( I have more important things to do )
So, this question is for Expert Gamers or someone who spend more hours than me Playing.

Are there any advantages/ disadvantages when Playing Games on Xeons Chips, does more cores and threads help in any way?

Cheers.

 

[newtekie1]

Are there any advantages/ disadvantages when Playing Games on Xeons Chips, does more cores and threads help in any way?

Nope, games prefer clock speed. So a higher clocked quad-core would be way better than a lower clocked 8-core.

 

[FireFox]

Nope, games prefer clock speed. So a higher clocked quad-core would be way better than a lower clocked 8-core.

But as we know there are Xeons that can be push at high clock speeds 4.0GHz/4.2GHz 4.5GHz

Note: at this point I guess that a Xeon at 4.5ghz let's say 6 cores would performance better than an i7 3770 ( that's an example )

 

[dorsetknob]

Its a case of Core Envy

 

[GhostRyder]

But as we know there are Xeons that can be push at high clock speeds 4.0GHz/4.2GHz 4.5GHz

Note: at this point I guess that a Xeon at 4.5ghz let's say 6 cores would performance better than an i7 3770 ( that's an example )

Well that would probably not be a great comparison because that's an 4 core 8 thread chip to a 6 core (Maybe 12 thread) chip. If you mean on a core to core basis like for say an i7 5930K vs an equivalent Xeon at the same clock speed then no there would be no difference (Or at least enough of a difference that is noticeable).

Many times people pick up Xeons because they can be had for great value and come with extra features/options along with being a bit overclockable. There are people on the forums here who pick them up for good prices and just manage to get a lot of bang for the buck.

 

[dorsetknob]

Many times people pick up Xeons because they can be had for great value and come with extra features/options along with being a bit overclockable. There are people on the forums here who pick them up for good prices and just manage to get a lot of bang for the buck.

Many times people pick up Xeons because they can be had for great value and come with extra features/options along with being a bit overclockable. There are people on the forums here who pick them up for good prices and just manage to get a lot of bang for the buck.

Depending on your motherboard and cooling they can be great overclockers

there are some great examples in the Xeon owners thread 2.66 Ghz to 4.2 Ghz average for the xeon 5650

 

[peche]

well, the thing about processor and gaming is pretty simple, beyond cores and threads people use to choose something that can lasts couple of years, what this mean, xeon are pretty capable for tasks, works and mostly job, also core i7's too but the price breach between them makes people chose intel core series, i5 are the popular ones, because they can handle gaming tasks without problems, they also make your rig future proof, also overclockeables, costs much less compared to its big brother i7's , also there are exceptions for this and there are exceptions for everything in this world, there several budget saver xeons, also affordable older versions that can handle the tasks, there is no noticeable performance when gaming with a xeon processor, like a boost for using more cores and thread's,



there are several benefits like energy consumption or efficiency, xeons are more energy efficient compared to Core series, but in chases like dual xeon motherboards/setups space can be another thing, you will need a bigger case, extra cooling for another processor on the same block which will make a bigger loop and also more money so, it’s a matter of personal decisions!

PD: I know that you already have your problem solved about the decision, wanting to see your future loop for 2p rig!

say hello to beni from me!


Regards,

 

[Blue-Knight]

Are there any advantages/ disadvantages when Playing Games on Xeons Chips, does more cores and threads help in any way?

They are more complete... All around CPU?

Would I buy a Xeon? Yes, but I prefer the Pentiums as they fit my reality best (i.e. no money goes to garbage, I mean the Xeon features and performance won't benefit me in any way currently).

Just my opinion.

 

[FireFox]

no money goes to garbage

That you buy a Xeon Chip doesn't mean your money goes to garbage, if that's what you meant.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Who has a 6 core i7 to put up against my Xeon 6 core @4.0ghz and run some benches?

(or any lower speed if you are too sissy to run at 4.0ghz )

I throw down the gauntlet in the name of science

 

[Blue-Knight]

That you buy a Xeon Chip doesn't mean your money goes to garbage, if that's what you meant.

That was not what I meant.

I meant there is no point in buying a more expensive CPU when a much cheaper one would be more than enough for your current life (in this case mine).

Obviously, if you benefit from it in some way then it is money well spent/invested.

Just that.

 

[dorsetknob]

Advertising blurb from Amazon .crap
"" Core i7 (3930K) 3.2GHz Six Core Processor 12MB L3 Cache ... 6 cores will future proof you and the ability to put an easy 4.5Ghz 24/7 ...""

Ahm delete this Core i7 (3930K) and replace with "" Xeon >>>>>>Six Core Processor 12MB L3 Cache ... 6 cores will future proof you and the ability to put an easy 4.5Ghz 24/7 ...""

The bit you need to notice is 6 cores will future proof you

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Future proof.........




I feel bulletproof

 

[Ahhzz]

To slightly side-step, and not being sure of the exact corollary, several years back, I built a system for me based on the AMD Opteron (a 185 Denmark, if I remember right), and was able to overclock it a good bit. The nice thing about the Opties was the stability. That thing was rock solid, and never had a penny's problem with it. The Opty and the Xeon are supposed to be business class, so they are a bit more exacting in their standards. I thought of it kind of like buying a Honda vs a Fiat. I might find a faster Fiat, but the Honda was going to keep going a lot longer with less issue.

Just my 2 pence

 

[ChevyOwner]

Who has a 6 core i7 to put up against my Xeon 6 core @4.0ghz and run some benches?

(or any lower speed if you are too sissy to run at 4.0ghz )

I throw down the gauntlet in the name of science

Sure.

I edited my post because my frustration at Google does not belong here.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Anyone got an AMD hex core they want to throw into the mix?

 

[dorsetknob]

Anyone got an AMD hex core they want to throw into the mix?

Any volunteers for 3rd place ??? Best choice Candidate would be
AMD FX6300 Black Edition 6 Core (3.5/4.1GHz, 8MB Level 3 Cache, 6MB Level 2 Cache, Socket AM3+

 

[ChevyOwner]

I have a 1100T, but no video card for that PC.

It is in a 2u server case.

 

[revin]

MOAR POWAR !!

 

[xvi]

Who has a 6 core i7 to put up against my Xeon 6 core @4.0ghz and run some benches?

(or any lower speed if you are too sissy to run at 4.0ghz )

I throw down the gauntlet in the name of science

I have a 3930k I'd be interested in comparing, although I don't think there'd be much difference other than the tri/quad channel memory. The only instruction set the Xeon has that the i7 doesn't is Trusted Execution. They seem very similar otherwise.
Edit: Also, a 1100T somewhere around here, but I certainly wouldn't want to race any Intel procs with it.

 

[newtekie1]

But as we know there are Xeons that can be push at high clock speeds 4.0GHz/4.2GHz 4.5GHz

Note: at this point I guess that a Xeon at 4.5ghz let's say 6 cores would performance better than an i7 3770 ( that's an example )

Back in the 1366 days maybe, but on modern platforms Xeons can't be overclocked. On the modern platform the best you are going to get is 6-Cores/8-Cores at 3.8GHz.

If we are talking about 1366, that is Nehalem. So ~40% slower clock for clock than Haswell. So a 4.5GHz 1366 Xeon would be slower in games than a stock 4790K.

 

[GhostRyder]

Who has a 6 core i7 to put up against my Xeon 6 core @4.0ghz and run some benches?

(or any lower speed if you are too sissy to run at 4.0ghz )

I throw down the gauntlet in the name of science

Would a 5930K do?

 

[ChevyOwner]

Would a 5930K do?

Looks like we have a 3930k, 4930k, and a 5930k now.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

what you want is one of these for gaming


It will improve your reaction speed more than 10 fold i shit you not.

 

[cadaveca]

Hi there.
First of all, i don't spend a lot of time in front of a Pc playing Games ( I have more important things to do )
So, this question is for Expert Gamers or someone who spend more hours than me Playing.

Are there any advantages/ disadvantages when Playing Games on Xeons Chips, does more cores and threads help in any way?

Cheers.

Using Xeon CPUs in mainstream systems came from two places, IMHO, from office workers getting "obsolete" work PCs for low-cost/free, and from overclocking.

When looking at silicon quality, the best chips tend to end up in XEON-type CPUs, including Opterons. The workload in such an environment leads to CPUs under high workloads similar to those used as stability tests, but not for a couple of hours or days... for all of their lifetime. This is most definitely not the case in desktop systems, but there are still desktop "workstations" to meet that need... that's what a "workstation" is... a station built to meet the high workload of a demanding office/CAD/simulation/rendering/etc while maintaining the utmost of stability. The same goes for Quadro/Tesla/FireGL/FIrePro cards... those cards are NOT allowed to have any sort of rendering errors, and that is really why they cost the big bucks; it is not just about the support offered.


So... when the best silicon goes into these types of electronics, and you want the absolute best to try to break "world records", you dip into the well where the best are...


Because, otherwise, there isn't much difference. It's all about quality, and allowed errors.