Important W10 activation key questions left unanswered by Microsoft

[jsfitz54]

See the reply by Andre de Costa on this page.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7/f6df369f-00e0-4530-9ee7-bd46f2de050c?auth=1

Your link indicates what revision is allowed during the 30 day grace period and does not appear to speak to the issue of saving the .old folder offsite and using it beyond the 30 days.

If I missed it, show me where it is.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Your link indicates what revision is allowed during the 30 day grace period and does not appear to speak to the issue of saving the .old folder offsite and using it beyond the 30 days.

If I missed it, show me where it is.

Exactly. Also, Andre is interpreting. From my knowledge he's just a frequent poster, like us here.

 

[Caring1]

Your link indicates what revision is allowed during the 30 day grace period and does not appear to speak to the issue of saving the .old folder offsite and using it beyond the 30 days.

If I missed it, show me where it is.

Then you missed it because he mentioned saving Windows.old for use later.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Then you missed it because he mentioned saving Windows.old for use later.

For later in that 30 days. MS seems very clear on only having 30 days. But we'll see on day 31 when soneone tries to retrograde.

 

[jsfitz54]

Then you missed it because he mentioned saving Windows.old for use later.

I said, "show me".

 

[Caring1]

I said, "show me".

Lol, don't be lazy.

 

[jsfitz54]

Lol, don't be lazy.

Stop reading on a 5th grade level and posting conjecture.

 

[Caring1]

Stop reading on a 5th grade level and posting conjecture.

Try reading, if you can.

 

[jsfitz54]

Try reading, if you can.

Stop crapping up this post.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Try reading, if you can.

We ARE reading. You are reading INTO, since you seem unaware what "conjecture" means. You keep pointing to the posting by a guy, just a guy, who is not a MS employee.

 

[R-T-B]

We ARE reading. You are reading INTO, since you seem unaware what "conjecture" means. You keep pointing to the posting by a guy, just a guy, who is not a MS employee.

Not only that, but he doesn't even explicitly say what is being implied. He simply says it's a smart thing to back it up, not that it works after 30 days.

 

[jsfitz54]

For the record, I just tried to copy and paste the .old file to an external HD. It was going OK, then it got hung up on "permissions".
I went to properties and clicked the box to unhide hidden files and tried to change master permissions.
W10 did not like what I was doing mid save.
In the end after applying changes, the .old folder was moved to the external and is now no longer listed on the C drive.

I don't know if it is even a viable folder anymore. The transaction was only supposed to copy the file, not remove it.

The rollback feature "button" is still present. I have not rebooted yet.

 

[Caring1]

We ARE reading. You are reading INTO, since you seem unaware what "conjecture" means.

To me it means the ability to think for oneself.
If you don't want any original thoughts, keep being a follower.

 

[Caring1]

Stop crapping up this post.

You don't like others opinions, go somewhere where the other sheep all think the same.

 

[Divide Overflow]

We ARE reading. You are reading INTO, since you seem unaware what "conjecture" means. You keep pointing to the posting by a guy, just a guy, who is not a MS employee.

Go directly to Microsoft if you're going to dismiss anything posted by users here as not coming directly from a Microsoft employee.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Go directly to Microsoft if you're going to dismiss anything posted by users here as not coming directly from a Microsoft employee.

Exactly my point. Andre at Microsoft Answers and several people here are INTERPRETING, and as Caring1 even admits, it's his OPINION.

@Caring1 I have never been a follower, not in my military or civilian careers, both in action and in position. Followers take everything given to them and eat it up "yes sir, yes sir, three bags full, sir", just as you seem to be doing. Leaders are inquisitive and questioning and call out things that don't make sense or look right. Wanting clarification and inquiring are signs of intelligence.

 

[jsfitz54]

You don't like others opinions, go somewhere where the other sheep all think the same.

Your regurgitation of others work (the link you provided), which is not on point to the discussion, makes you the sheep.

If you cannot provide anything useful here, then it is you that needs to go somewhere, and do some work and stop being lazy.

 

[johnspack]

I myself question Win10. I think it should be avoided until it's a proven os. Not ready for prime time. MS was too worried about building in all the back doors to actually make an os.

 

[R-T-B]

I myself question Win10. I think it should be avoided until it's a proven os. Not ready for prime time. MS was too worried about building in all the back doors to actually make an os.

I'm more concerned about people calling an OS that lets you opt out of such things an OS with "back doors"

Seriously, you can turn 99% of that shit off by not using "express settings." I don't get all the worry.

 

[johnspack]

Bah, I'll figure all that crap out in VMs..... my system keeps fing up so it's hard to play with stuff right now. I just don't see the point in win10 right now for my older hardware. I guess for haswell and a gtx980 it's worth fing with.
Oh, and start peerblock, and then start Skype, and watch how much unneeded traffic gets blocked. Yes MS has backdoors up the ying yang.....

 

[tabascosauz]

Wait a sec...MS policy has ALWAYS been that OEM license is tied to a single motherboard. However, I've had plenty of occasions in which I've transfered an OEM 7/8.1 license to another computer. Of course it wouldn't activate at first, but I just had to make a quick call to MS automated activation phone line and it would be sorted out.

Does this mean that I can't do that anymore? Or will they have a staffed service that helps people with broken motherboard -> upgrade scenarios? Or are they going to be THAT company and make you buy a new Windows if your motherboard breaks?

 

[johnspack]

And also, if I upgrade my legal copy of win7 to win10, can I go back? Will my license change to win10 only at that point, or can I go back to win7?

 

[jsfitz54]

What I want to know is, what is the current W10 Reserved Partition size supposed to be from a clean install?

The reason for asking is due to a failed attempt to upgrade my W8.1 to W10 as the reserve partition was 100MB with 98MB used space. A no go, without full wipe. Apparently, I had upgraded over W7 and successive upgrades to W8 then 8.1 did not resize the partition , which led to a failed upgrade path.

My W8 to W10 upgrade has a 350MB partition size and I am unsure if I should do a second clean install to enlarge it again.

 

[R-T-B]

Bah, I'll figure all that crap out in VMs..... my system keeps fing up so it's hard to play with stuff right now. I just don't see the point in win10 right now for my older hardware. I guess for haswell and a gtx980 it's worth fing with.
Oh, and start peerblock, and then start Skype, and watch how much unneeded traffic gets blocked. Yes MS has backdoors up the ying yang.....

Problem is there. Not with the OS. Skype is a known backdoor farm.

 

[johnspack]

Skype is offered through windows update now. It's effectively part of the os too. I know how to block the skype crap, the win10 stuff scares me to be honest.