Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

Deleted member 67555 · Aug 10, 2015

I upgraded one PC and an old netbook but not my gaming/ htpc because I also use a Silicon dust HD homerun prime with a Time Warner cable card and since win 10 doesn't have MCE I have to keep a PC with Win 7 or 8.1
I chose Win 7..

JunkBear · Aug 10, 2015

Windows 10 is supposed to be the best of Win7 and Win8 but still too buggy. Since I dont have touch screen stuff i dont see the point to upgrade at Win8 and their tiles shit. I wait long time until Win10 get solved their drivers problems that could probably not work on my older computers anyway.

erocker · Aug 10, 2015

I'm in the middle of reverting back to 8.1.

Done. I'll say one thing... Both upgrading and reverting went extremely smooth.

RejZoR · Aug 10, 2015

Yeah, but don't forget to check Disk Management. Say hello to second hidden "recovery" partition... Anyone brave enough to remove it and see if system still boots and functions fine?

LAN_deRf_HA · Aug 11, 2015

I upgraded my main rig and customized it heavily, I'm fine with regedit and gpedit (just remember to log the changes you make) for getting the behavior I want out of it, and my transforming tablet I'm trying to keep pretty vanilla. So far I don't have any major issues and I definitely find it preferable to 8. This feels like vista vs 7 all over again where it's the little changes that make a big difference.

Deleted member 67555 · Aug 11, 2015

I really like Win10 on my office PC tbh...
It's just an AMD 7850k with the GPU clocked at 900mhz and 2.4ghz memory and a decent ssd and it handles way better on 10....
Wasn't bad on 8...but it's just a little better on 10...

Not worth it on anything else...yet

Hood · Aug 11, 2015

I really like 8.1 (with Classic Shell), because it's much faster than 7, and in the past year I've managed to find all of it's settings and tweak them to my liking. Windows 7 feels almost as kludgy as XP to me, after using 8.1 for over a year. Windows 10 felt almost exactly the same as 8.1, at least in my upgrade copy. I liked 10, but it had a few quirks that need time to work out. So I reverted back to 8.1 after 3 days, and of course the process borked a few programs, notably Classic Shell, which stopped working, couldnt be uninstalled or updated, and has left me using the crappy 8.1 Start Menu (which sucks because it's just a link to Metro!) So now I'm stuck with the option of clean install 8.1 or clean install 10, just to get a working start menu!

RejZoR · Aug 11, 2015

I frankly don't mind Win8.1 full screen start anymore. In fact I quite like it. Weird, I know...

R-T-B · Aug 11, 2015

laszlo said:
no upgrade as 7 is mature and don't trust MS "free" upgrade....

nothing is free and must be a catch;i assume after free period ends you'll be asked to pay subscription(s) for features..

once NSA was caught in 8 with back doors provided by MS how can i trust MS on 10?;is the perfect opportunity for them to spy more giving something "free"

http://bgr.com/2015/07/31/windows-10-upgrade-spying-how-to-opt-out/
http://www.techworm.net/2014/10/microsofts-windows-10-permission-watch-every-move.html

Source on the 8 backdoors? I never heard anything like that.

johnspack · Aug 11, 2015

Well I have still under one year or less to decide... http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/08/22/nsa-windows-8-exploit/ Win10 still scares me. I see every day in here reports of upgrades gone bad and hardware issues.
I do play with several versions of it regularly in vms, and other than annoying me with unwanted updates ect, it works. Still think it needs serious beta testing still. And less backdoors.

MustSeeMelons · Aug 11, 2015

Upgraded my main rig, went very smoothly, but there were a few hiccups here and there..
1) Had to reinstall Nvidia drivers. They were installed, but somehow my resolution was changing in random intervals.
2) Who said they fixed scaling? For me it's worse than win 8.1! Can't find a fix for this either, the 8.1 doesn't work.. Need to manually disable scaling for every app affected.
3) Seems I have some weird junk frames in the desktop sometimes. Like all white, portion white.

Otherwise I like how it looks, some of the features are welcome additions. None of my tools were broken during the udpate

I believe, that the problems that I had could be fixed with a clean install which I will do in a few weeks.
Was really tired of Win 7 and Win 8 still sometimes showed it's ugly side so I'm happy with win 10.

Caring1 · Aug 11, 2015

erocker said:
I'm in the middle of reverting back to 8.1.

Done. I'll say one thing... Both upgrading and reverting went extremely smooth.

Of all the problems people have reverting, all of them have been caused by using an image, not the built in revert feature.

erocker · Aug 11, 2015

Caring1 said:
Of all the problems people have reverting, all of them have been caused by using an image, not the built in revert feature.

Probably caused by people messing with the image.

HTC · Aug 12, 2015

I enrolled for windows 10 with that GWX thingy but have since decided to wait for a while to see how it goes.

The thing is windows keeps telling me to upgrade to 10 and i keep unchecking the box for windows 10 upgrade ... and it keeps checking it back by itself ... it's getting bloody annoying ...

Tried going to msconfig to see if i could disable the service or something but i don't see GWX there. Tried deleting it in regedit but it doesn't allow deletion nor edit. Tried deleting the GWX folder but i don't have permission ... even as system administrator ...

Does anyone have a way to remove GXW from the PC or @ least stop it from running?

Pill Monster · Aug 12, 2015

HTC said:
I enrolled for windows 10 with that GWX thingy but have since decided to wait for a while to see how it goes.

The thing is windows keeps telling me to upgrade to 10 and i keep unchecking the box for windows 10 upgrade ... and it keeps checking it back by itself ... it's getting bloody annoying ...

Tried going to msconfig to see if i could disable the service or something but i don't see GWX there. Tried deleting it in regedit but it doesn't allow deletion nor edit. Tried deleting the GWX folder but i don't have permission ... even as system administrator ...

Does anyone have a way to remove GXW from the PC or @ least stop it from running?

Uninstall Windows Update KB3035583

Norton · Aug 12, 2015

Pill Monster said:
Uninstall Windows Update KB3035583

That worked for me. Watch out for it on future automatic updates also, the little bugger keeps trying to come back...

HTC · Aug 12, 2015

Pill Monster said:
Uninstall Windows Update KB3035583

Tried this:

Norton said:
That worked for me. Watch out for it on future automatic updates also, the little bugger keeps trying to come back...

Not working for me

Norton · Aug 12, 2015

HTC said:
Tried this:

View attachment 67303 View attachment 67304

Not working for me

Did you close it/end the process?

iirc the program can't be running when you uninstall it.

PopcornMachine · Aug 12, 2015

Stuck with XP, hated Vista.

Stuck with 7, hated 8.

10 is good and upgraded without issue.

MakeDeluxe · Aug 12, 2015

I was in the Insider program for fun. After the launch of 10 I reverted back to good old Win7 because of all the handholding and stuff.

Win10 didn't really offer me anything Win7 can't already do. Dx12 will probably change my opinion but that will take a long time to arrive.

Static~Charge · Aug 12, 2015

My lowly test machine (Intel Pentium G2020, ASRock H61M/U3S3 motherboard, 4 gigs of RAM, 160-gig hard drive) has been running Windows 10 Technical Preview since it was released. I wiped the drive, restored my Windows 7 Pro backup, then upgraded it to Windows 10 Pro. It took a little while, but it everything worked fine.

I'm going to hold off a while for upgrading my main machine (definitely through Service Release 1 in August, maybe through Service Release 2 in October). I want to see how the bugs shake out first. I am not thrilled about the automatic driver update feature, but already there are utilities to disable this.

Static~Charge · Aug 12, 2015

RejZoR said:
Yeah, but don't forget to check Disk Management. Say hello to second hidden "recovery" partition... Anyone brave enough to remove it and see if system still boots and functions fine?

Interesting. Windows 10's Disk Management shows a new 449MB partition: no drive label, no file system type, status is "Healthy (Recovery Partition)", disk usage is 100% free. GParted is a bit more informative: NTFS file system, partition is flagged "diag", 318MB are used. I understand that Microsoft doesn't want you to mess with the recovery partition, but at least they could show that it's in use....

RejZoR · Aug 12, 2015

Supposedly that's for reverting back to Windows 8.1, but even if you remove the restoration point, this partition remains in place. Which is annoying.

Pill Monster · Aug 12, 2015

Static~Charge said:
Interesting. Windows 10's Disk Management shows a new 449MB partition: no drive label, no file system type, status is "Healthy (Recovery Partition)", disk usage is 100% free. GParted is a bit more informative: NTFS file system, partition is flagged "diag", 318MB are used. I understand that Microsoft doesn't want you to mess with the recovery partition, but at least they could show that it's in use....

RejZoR said:
Supposedly that's for reverting back to Windows 8.1, but even if you remove the restoration point, this partition remains in place. Which is annoying.

Nah it's the same system reserved partition that W7 has, only bigger.

The recovery folder for reverting back to W8/W7 is on the root of your OS partition, hidden.

ShurikN · Aug 12, 2015

Got 10 on my Asus Transformer (previously 8.1) and one on my main gaming rig (7 ult). So far no catastrophic bugs, minor ones here and there, but they go away after a restart.
Not going back to older ones, as I never have in the past 15 years. Yes Vista included.

Also I noticed a lot of performance increase (2x) in CSGO going from 7 to 10.

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Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

Now that W10 is out, are you a W7/W8 refusenik?

Yes

No

Wait and see how W10 develops over the next few months

Gotta try it out a bit more

Depends on how good DX12 is and the support it gets

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