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That's not playing anything. You're remote controlling a console through a PC (input latency...) instead of just PLAYING ON THE PC. As if the graphics and framerate weren't enough of a reason to stay of the stupid box.

How is that not playing anything? I'm a PC gamer by far but the hilarious fanboyism for pc and hatred of console that you're showing makes anything you say in this thread useless.
 
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How is that not playing anything? I'm a PC gamer by far but the hilarious fanboyism for pc and hatred of console that you're showing makes anything you say in this thread useless.

I'm going to set up a dirty mirror so I can watch TV that's behind me. Makes total sense. I'll also pay extra just to do it!
 
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I'm going to set up a dirty mirror so I can watch TV that's behind me. Makes total sense. I'll also pay extra just to do it!

The xbox app is free? And the tv with the xbox is on a different floor of my home so...
 
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Point taken. But ive just randomly googled info regarding SLi on Linux and things dont look so good :p

Yeah, it's not hardcore gamer ready for things like SLI by any means. But for a single card 1080p gamer like me, it works.
 

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The xbox app is free? And the tv with the xbox is on a different floor of my home so...
The Xbox One is not free...nor the laptop...nor the networking equipment...nor the Xbox One games...nor Windows 10 unless you got it with the laptop or upgraded from Windows 7 SP1/Windows 8.1.

It is pretty easy to grasp why PC gamers are annoyed with Microsoft. Instead of supporting Windows as a gaming platform like they did back in the 1990s, they are supporting Windows as a streaming platform from Xbox One. Going back to the OP, this is exactly what Unangst was talking about: Microsoft is going to keep focusing on Xbox One and "supporting" Steam in their Windows gaming endeavors; Microsoft has no intent to compete with Steam "right now."
 
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Bahhh.


Microsoft is trying to move from a sales driven business model to a SAAS model.


I forsee a Xbox app that allows a modern PC to run Xbox games and their attempt to sell Xbox Live to PC gamers as part of it.
that is my hope here.
the hardware is by in large the same, MS would need a test to check if the hardware was capable to run a emulated Xbox.
They would probably require a Live Gold membership.
Could also be that you had to by the software from MS, or lease it through the windows store.

the pros for MS would be larger user base for their Xbox games, without having to actually having sell them consoles, consoles that they loose money on selling anyway.

I only see two hurdles, one being that it opens the xbox app to hacking to allow pirated games, and two being that it would be difficult with NV cards until DX 12 is implemented on the Xbox, after that they should have an API that will allow low level access to the cards.

The pirated problem could be mitigated by having a separate OS that must be started up at boot, if only MS had access to the knowledge of how to make a OS ;).
 
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I still dont see the hate on the xbox app... no1 is going out of there way to buy an xbox one for use with the app. If you use the app it's probably because you already own the xbox and would prefer to play at your pc. This "OMG THEY'RE RIPPING US OFF MAKING US BUy AN XBOX AND SETTING UP A WIFI CONNECTION AND USE OUR COMPUTER" is hilarious.
 

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TL;DR: The Windows and Windows Phone ecosystems seem to be tied but neither of them are tied to the Xbox ecosystem except for a few "Xbox Live" titles that were released for Windows 10 and Xbox One (as far as I can tell, they're completely separate).


There is one massive problem with running Xbox games on Windows: virtually no computers have a Bluray drive. Not to mention, they won't because it would be a massive gift to the community in terms of circumventing the DRM. The higher ups at Microsoft won't even consider it.

Xbox Live games that appear in the Windows Store, Windows Phone, and Xbox One is certainly a possibility if not likely but, as I said before, the bulk of them will probably be microtransaction based. Microtransaction games generally aren't very successful on Windows.

Edit: Xbox app featured games open the Store program and it looks exactly like this:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/farmville-2-country-escape/9wzdncrdqwjk

Which says right on it: "Works on: PC, mobile device"

Sooooo, it appears that for now, Windows and Windows Phone are shared for now and the Xbox app pulls games that were installed from Games for Windows Live or Windows Store. I don't think there are any Xbox Live games on Windows Store yet but that possibility certainly exists because the codebase is more or less the same.


Edit: Oh, the Microsoft Store does have a link for "Xbox apps." Uh...they're like...basic web content access apps...

Edit: I looked at some games that should be sharable between Xbox One and Windows (like Minecraft) and it appears that they're both completely separate for now.

Edit: The search for "Minecraft" fails to find the Windows 10 version even though I was just looking at it five minutes ago. :\

Edit: Apparently it only exists in the Store on Windows 10.

Edit: I finally got it to cough up the URL: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/games/minecraft-windows-10-edition-beta/9nblggh2jhxj

For me, that links opens the Store app on my computer, not the URL but that might just be Internet Explorer/Edge that does that.

Edit: So I converted my Mojang account and got a free copy of Windows 10 Minecraft but now I can't figure out how to install or play it. :confused: For the record, this version of Minecraft, it says on the store, is full of micro transactions. I wasn't kidding when I said Microsoft's store is all about microtranactions. And no, I'll never spend a cent on that bull.

Edit: Oh, I wasn't logged in. I had to click on "Free Trial" and it popped up a dialog to log in. Now it is downloading. I don't really feel like playing it but...it is clear this is a wreck.
All that sounds standard to me: Situation Normal All F'd Up.
 
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This "OMG THEY'RE RIPPING US OFF MAKING US BUy AN XBOX AND SETTING UP A WIFI CONNECTION AND USE OUR COMPUTER" is hilarious.
It's obvious that this Microsoft's streaming setup makes sense only for those owning Microsoft Surface and Xbone ... it would be nice for it to make sense for those owning a gaming PC and a Surface ... that's all that's to it.

p.s. I like what you did with your creative usage of caps ... that little "y" is kinda distracting ... you did it on purpose to mess with people's OCD, admit it :laugh:
 
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That's not playing anything. You're remote controlling a console through a PC (input latency...) instead of just PLAYING ON THE PC. As if the graphics and framerate weren't enough of a reason to stay off the stupid box.
If that's even remotely true it's a reason to get really excited.

I don't know where you've been but we've been begging for that ever since virtualization came out. IE we have monolithic gaming machine in gaming room and a laptop and we can stream games from the gaming machine to the laptop giving us all the HP of the gaming machine with the mobility of the standard (ie non gaming) laptop. Sure if you want more serious sessions you'll just use the PC, but when you're just watching tv with your wife you can pull up an rpg and mess around without losing detail, burning your la,p or running into a 1.5 hour battery life wall.

As it is right now I have the gaming machine in the Den (read man cave) and she has her lenovo yoga 11s. She plays her puzzle games while watching tv, and I just watch tv...
 

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If that's even remotely true it's a reason to get really excited.

I don't know where you've been but we've been begging for that ever since virtualization came out. IE we have monolithic gaming machine in gaming room and a laptop and we can stream games from the gaming machine to the laptop giving us all the HP of the gaming machine with the mobility of the standard (ie non gaming) laptop. Sure if you want more serious sessions you'll just use the PC, but when you're just watching tv with your wife you can pull up an rpg and mess around without losing detail, burning your la,p or running into a 1.5 hour battery life wall.

As it is right now I have the gaming machine in the Den (read man cave) and she has her lenovo yoga 11s. She plays her puzzle games while watching tv, and I just watch tv...

The problem is, that can't be instituted like that. Microsoft has limited it to streaming a game from Xbone to pc, instead of allowing for pc to Xbone, which would harness the power of the stronger device (the pc), just as you described it. They way MS have instituted, the whole thing is automatically crippling the process, unless soneone only streams Xbone to tablet or laptop.
 
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The problem is, that can't be instituted like that. Microsoft has limited it to streaming a game from Xbone to pc, instead of allowing for pc to Xbone, which would harness the power of the stronger device (the pc), just as you describex it. They way MS have instituted, the whole thing is automatically crippling the process, unless soneone only streams Xbone to tablet or laptop.
screw MS, where's the pirates when you need them? If MS has made game streaming viable that's all I need. We can port it ourselves.
 

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p.s. I like what you did with your creative usage of caps ... that little "y" is kinda distracting ... you did it on purpose to mess with people's OCD, admit it :laugh:

Accidentally on purpose. I noticed it but left it hoping it would bug people as much as it bugged me.
 
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no that dog clearly catches the tail a couple of times. We're more like the dog whose tail is too short to ever catch.
Clearly, dog only stutters because gifsoup has horrible bandwidth issues ... how much off-topic can we go ... I wanna dog gif that does something that is metaphor for going off topic
 

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The xbox app on windows 10 is actually kinda awesome. Let's be play the xbox thru my pc with no lag and negligible effects on the graphics.

Yeah sounds real smart lol, why not just play your game on console and save a little electric lol.

Sorry it's sounds totally dumb, i got a xbox to run games on to go though my PC WTF. They need to get off their asses and just make xbox games work on PC period. But you you seen how MS have supported PC gaming and you buy in to the crap.

Well done.

I will go out tomorrow to buy a tow truck tow our car because thats gotta be better than just driving the car.
 

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Clearly, dog only stutters because gifsoup has horrible bandwidth issues ... how much off-topic can we go ... I wanna dog gif that does something that is metaphor for going off topic
You need better internet. That gif runs flawlessly on my Microsoft spy machine 2015.
 
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They need to get off their asses and just make xbox games work on PC period.

I'm looking for MS to toss PC gamers another bone to push Win 10 adoption. To push Vista, which was not popular at first, they offered Halo 2 in 2007 saying that it required DX10 to run so it couldn't run on XP even though the code the game was ported from was from a game released in 2004 on the Xbox. Then they tossed us Halo: Spartan Assault for Win 8. Now Xbox head Phil Spencer is saying Halo 5 may come to PC.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2015/06/05/microsoft-halo-could-come-back-to-pc/
 

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I'm looking for MS to toss PC gamers another bone to push Win 10 adoption. To push Vista, which was not popular at first, they offered Halo 2 in 2007 saying that it required DX10 to run so it couldn't run on XP even though the code the game was ported from was from a game released in 2004 on the Xbox. Then they tossed us Halo: Spartan Assault for Win 8. Now Xbox head Phil Spencer is saying Halo 5 may come to PC.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2015/06/05/microsoft-halo-could-come-back-to-pc/

:) Still won't be as good as the first HALO, which is probably the best Microsoft-sponsored game to ever make it to PC!
 

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I'm looking for MS to toss PC gamers another bone to push Win 10 adoption. To push Vista, which was not popular at first, they offered Halo 2 in 2007 saying that it required DX10 to run so it couldn't run on XP even though the code the game was ported from was from a game released in 2004 on the Xbox. Then they tossed us Halo: Spartan Assault for Win 8. Now Xbox head Phil Spencer is saying Halo 5 may come to PC.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2015/06/05/microsoft-halo-could-come-back-to-pc/
There's a non-Java version of Minecraft available exclusively for Windows 10. Not much of a bone but still a bone.

Oh, and I won't get Halo 5 without playing 2-4 which, fat chance. Only reason why I'm interested in Metal Gear Solid 5 is because I like the gameplay, story be damned. Halo, being fundamentally a shooter, needs a compelling story or else I might as well play some other shooter and pretend it is Halo. XD
 

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:) Still won't be as good as the first HALO, which is probably the best Microsoft-sponsored game to ever make it to PC!
You have obviously never played MechWarrior.

On a side note Kill Instinct is coming to the PC. PREPARE YOUR ANUSUS.
 
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The First halo's story was compelling. Not sure how I feel about the later ones, but they weren't the same level that's for damn sure.
 
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