Can this be right?

BarbaricSoul · Sep 1, 2015

So the other day, something happened to my windows install where it's digital signature couldn't be verified, so it wouldn't boot into windows. Considering how long it has been since I've done a reformat and how much the computer had slowed down because of that, I decided to just wipe it clean and reinstall windows yesterday. So today,as I started to install what I call "accessory" programs like CPU-Z, GPU-Z, Real Temp and so on, I saw this-

Is it really possible my 3930k is running 3.8 GHz at full load and only using .64 volts? Before the reformat, less than 1.28 volts would result in a BSoD after a few hours.

Computer is Barbs Domain in system specs

EarthDog · Sep 1, 2015

Nope.

Toothless · Sep 1, 2015

Could compare those temps with temps that you had before the reformat and kinda go off of that with the voltage. At least that's what my i7 does; hit very specific temps depending on the vcore.

BarbaricSoul · Sep 1, 2015

temps are about 10'c cooler at full load than before the format

HWTactics · Sep 1, 2015

My i7-3770 crashes below 0.865V at full load. There is definitely no way this could be running at 0.648V with two more cores at the same frequency!

The Gigabyte H61N ITX board I'm running it on does not reflect the correct voltage in any software monitoring applications at all. In fact I can't even see the voltage changing even though I have a -0.180V Vcore offset in the BIOS. The only way I know it's working is by comparing power consumption with a Kill-A-Watt meter

Also I've tried setting it way lower than I know it will be stable at and when it crashes loading Windows then I know it's working

BarbaricSoul · Sep 1, 2015

I've never had any issues with reading the voltage before. There have been no hardware changes, only a OS reinstall. If it's not running at that voltage, why would I be getting significantly lower temps?

Toothless · Sep 1, 2015

Maybe the CPU decided to chill?

HWTactics · Sep 1, 2015

What's the Vcore setting in the BIOS? If it's on auto or normal voltage (around 1.3V for sandy bridge) I don't see any way voltage that low would be possible.

EarthDog · Sep 1, 2015

Doesn't the R4BE have voltage read points? Check them to know for sure.

BarbaricSoul · Sep 1, 2015

EarthDog said:
Doesn't the R4BE have voltage read points? Check them to know for sure.

can't reach them because of drive bays, and I'm not interested in doing any disassembly right now.

OneMoar · Sep 1, 2015

windows 10 seems todo weird shit to the sensors mine reads 0.6v well from the "vcore" sensor
check the VID that should be the actual core voltage on windows 10

natr0n · Sep 1, 2015

try hwmonitor for volt readings as cpuz gives inaccurate reading sometimes

oddly both programs are made by the same person

BarbaricSoul · Sep 1, 2015

OneMoar said:
windows 10 seems todo weird shit to the sensors mine reads 0.6v well from the "vcore" sensor
check the VID that should be the actual core voltage on windows 10

I'm using Windows 7 Ult 64 bit

natr0n said:
try hwmonitor for volt readings as cpuz gives inaccurate reading sometimes

oddly both programs are made by the same person

Ill try hwmonitor

OneMoar · Sep 1, 2015

natr0n said:
try hwmonitor for volt readings as cpuz gives inaccurate reading sometimes

oddly both programs are made by the same person

as of 1.27+ the sensor code is identical for both they both give faulty readings I reported it but untill then downgrade to 1.26
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/hwmonitor-download.html

EarthDog · Sep 1, 2015

Nothing like getting a board made for subambient overclocking, only to shove it in a case not to be able to use some of the features you paid for easily.

BarbaricSoul · Sep 1, 2015

HWMonitor seems to be showing more accurate readings-

EarthDog said:
Nothing like getting a board made for subambient overclocking, only to shove it in a case not to be able to use some of the features you paid for easily.

Heh, if I was really worried about using the voltage check points, I could just remove the drive bays, but that would kinda like buying a high-end case and not using it to it's potential. Besides, I didn't buy the board for it's OC'ing potential. I bought it for it's reliability in being able to run hard for long periods of time (crunching with an OC).

SnakeDoctor · Sep 1, 2015

Install the motherboard apps / software that came with motherboard to monitor Temps / voltage
Possible Cpu z is not getting correct info from motherboard or not refreshing during benchmark

Try other app to monitor Voltage eg.

CAM - new freeware from NXTX https://cam.nzxt.com/
HWiNFO
HWMonitor

Toothless · Sep 1, 2015

I wouldn't trust CAM just yet, not after the issues I've seen with it.

EarthDog · Sep 1, 2015

BarbaricSoul said:
Heh, if I was really worried about using the voltage check points, I could just remove the drive bays, but that would kinda like buying a high-end case and not using it to it's potential. Besides, I didn't buy the board for it's OC'ing potential. I bought it for it's reliability in being able to run hard for long periods of time (crunching with an OC).

Understood. Just know you could have spent half that and had the same reliability. It doesn't take a $400+ board to run reliably when overclocked.

BiggieShady · Sep 1, 2015

EarthDog said:
It doesn't take a $400+ board to run reliably when overclocked.

It might in hotter parts of the world where high ambient temperatures go together with high humidity

HWTactics · Sep 1, 2015

Again, Auto voltage for SB processors is around 1.3V. If you haven't changed it in the BIOS that is what the load voltage will be. HWMonitor is showing it correctly.

EarthDog · Sep 1, 2015

BiggieShady said:
It might in hotter parts of the world where high ambient temperatures go together with high humidity

You reaching to make a point... missing that the guy lives in Virginia not in the middle of the Sahara Desert.

If that is your concern, then using the 'fortified' X79/X99 Sabertooth would have been a better choice for 1/3 of the cash.

Anyway... a bit OT.. I digress.

BarbaricSoul · Sep 1, 2015

EarthDog said:
Understood. Just know you could have spent half that and had the same reliability. It doesn't take a $400+ board to run reliably when overclocked.

Money wasn't an issue at the time. Hell, shortly after building this system, I donated a 3930k/ASUS P79 Deluxe system to the WCG team for a contest prize (Mad Shot got it).

BTW, I didn't pay $400 for it. Don't remember exactly what I paid for it, but I got it used from Gunslinger.

BiggieShady · Sep 1, 2015

EarthDog said:
You reaching to make a point... missing that the guy lives in Virginia not in the middle of the Sahara Desert.

Didn't miss that at all, I blatantly reached to make a point simply because I like making points, that's how I roll :pimp:

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