Skylake i7 6700K lose to Haswell i7 4790K in gaming?

[Frag_Maniac]

Oh I don't care about the people asking. Most of the clowns answering however are 15 year old kids who are idiots.

I can see that you either don't chat there much, or chat on boards that are pointless to hang out on. The number of members that know what is sensible value in gaming components far outweigh those that don't have a clue what to advise.

I've seen just as many ill advised suggestions on elitists tech forums as I have on Tom's. You have to know how to sift through the crap no matter what forum you visit.

Just the fact that you assume a consumer has to have deep tech knowledge of the components to make a sensible purchase is quite an oversight in judgment in itself.

A lot of people here no matter what tech stuff they know, still refer to benches, benches most anyone can understand. I think you're arguing yourself into a corner here.

 

[Zoinho]

Guys, return to the title of this thread... Post yours benchmarks that prove 6700k vs 4790k, but do not believe DigitalFoundry because they were paid by intel... Many others tests prove that 4790k over 6700k in gaming.

 

[sneekypeet]

Is a naive person that has the restraint and common sense to ask for help and actually learn something more of a "moron" than someone that wastes a couple hundred on an equal performing platform, settling for a GPU 1-2 models lower in the process?

The way I see it, the morons are the ones in denial. They can be of high intelligence level, but lack the common sense to use it effectively.

The reality is, Tom's is full of naive gamers looking for help, but it's never more moronic when a handful of elitists jump in a thread and try and convince them they should spend hundreds more than they need to, without really gaining any performance.

Oh I don't care about the people asking. Most of the clowns answering however are 15 year old kids who are idiots.

Tread lightly here fellas, warnings were already given for name calling and making things personal.

 

[EarthDog]

Guys, return to the title of this thread... Post yours benchmarks that prove 6700k vs 4790k, but do not believe DigitalFoundry because they were paid by intel... Many others tests prove that 4790k over 6700k in gaming.

we are still waiting for you to do that...

I also posted some results from another site that showed differently.......but you missed it?

 

[tabascosauz]

@sneekypeet Why the need for more warnings? This thread is like

One guy thinks he owns the place and believes he has the right to tell others to "leave" when he is unable to see their reasoning; DigitalFoundry is "paid by Intel" but Youtube "benchmarks" are holiest of the holiest. Why not let him just have the [locked] thread to himself?

 

[sneekypeet]

@sneekypeet Why the need for more warnings? This thread is like

One guy thinks he owns the place and believes he has the right to tell others to "leave" when he is unable to see their reasoning; DigitalFoundry is "paid by Intel" but Youtube "benchmarks" are holiest of the holiest. Why not let him just have the [locked] thread to himself?

So now as mods we have to run around taking toys away because all of you do not know how to ignore members and get along? What is the point in having open opinion forums then? If warnings are not needed, I will be giving you points for posting off topic, enjoy!

 

[Zoinho]

Compare... a 4790k of the lying DigitalFoundry (youtu.be/4sx1kLGVAF0?t=1m2s) vs a Real benchmark of 4790k
(youtu.be/S0uDzU8KTiQ?t=7m35s), and note that this Real result exceeds the 6700k OC.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Compare... a 4790k of the lying DigitalFoundry (youtu.be/4sx1kLGVAF0?t=1m2s) vs a Real benchmark of 4790k
(youtu.be/S0uDzU8KTiQ?t=7m35s), and note that this Real result exceeds the 6700k OC.

what about a big "we don't care" unlike you (unless you do own them both at the same time/not at the same time and stop drinking blindingly some youtube nonsense ) i owned both CPU from Haswell DT and Skylake S (unfortunately not at the same time since my 4690K fried and the insurance covered for the original price which was coincidentally the same price that i would have to pay for a similar 6600K setup, previously 16gb DDR3 C10 2400 now 16gb DDR4 C14 2800) between the 2 setup in game i use to play, guess what? no differences at all.

Real life situation versus Benchmark? well the Benchmark mean nothing in the end except a "general idea" that does not even reach the result of a normal day to day use

a benchmark not gaming ... who care
wait .... my 6600K is 13% faster in single thread and only 11% slower in multi thread than a 4790K, eh? oh wait i OC to 4.4 instead of 4.0, not really caring about that, are you? obviously no, because if you have a 4690K or a 4790K a 6600K or a 6700K is pointless (well for me it was, until a certain thunderstorm ... )

this thread in the end is pointless ... the 6700K and even the 6600K are great value for anyone who have a CPU under a 3770K (or enthusiast) which is a great news for average user since if they have a Ivy or later (or even older CPU depending the needs they have) they do not need to change and buy more (at last in switzerland they are great value ... since the Z97 and Haswell DT CPU prices are going a bit up and almost reach the prices of their Skylake S equivalent )

 

[Zoinho]

Dude, What is title of this thread? But if you want synthetic benchmark: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html and the benchmark definition:
http://searchcio.techtarget.com/definition/benchmark

 

[yogurt_21]

sneekypeet has a major point here. Add that member to ignore and this thread looks pretty darn funny. I posted my peace before but I'll leave it with this. Unless AMD pulls out a rabbit there is nothing forcing Intel to increase performance per core or per clock. On the contrary the consumer base at large seems to be demanding smaller and more power efficient options rather than power hungry performance monsters. On the other side you have virtualization pushing for more cores, but not caring how well they perform against prior Intel setups. And no I'm not just talking enterprise, plenty of enthusiasts run vms at home, its far easier to manage than dual boot and you can have 10 or more vms to play around with on a single setup.

I'm not even sure the pc gaming market is demanding more performance per clock, when was the last time you were unhappy with cpu performance? So I don't expect many new releases to be significantly faster than the prior leaders. You shouldn't either, there is no reason to. So unless there's a feature you want that's only available on the new platform, there's no need upgrade. In this case there were several Z170 features that were intruiging just not enough for me to jump from a Z97 setup. Maybe the next gen.

 

[EarthDog]

Compare... a 4790k of the lying DigitalFoundry (youtu.be/4sx1kLGVAF0?t=1m2s) vs a Real benchmark of 4790k
(youtu.be/S0uDzU8KTiQ?t=7m35s), and note that this Real result exceeds the 6700k OC.

Again, I posted up something from another review site that shows different... Did you look at that? What are your thoughts? As I also stated, there are several other reviews from reputable websites just like it. At least their testing methods are more transparent than some YT users.

 

[Tomgang]

Funny you guys talking about the old I7 920 and performence. I am still using and old I7 920 DO cpu oc to 4,3 GHz together whit two GTX 970 in sli. And i will say for its age it performe very well in deed. sure a new I7 6700K would be nice and sure give a few more FPS in games, but to what price.

Back when i got my I7 920 i would never imaging i would had the same CPU for 6,5 year and still going strong. I have been thinking about getting a I7 970/980 or a 6 core xeon and oc the crap out of it to give the old X58 platform a longer life span.

If you guys will have some 3dmark firestrike scores of my old machine whit some overclock take a look below here.

single card run score 10911

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5850771

two card run score 16384

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5570488

Compare to a stock I7 4790K system whit two GTX 980 in sli score 17805

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4937464

An I7 6700K oc to 4,6 GHz system whit two GTX 970 but where the GPU is clokket lower than my GPU´s but not by that much lower. whit 1288 MHz compared to my cards 1312 MHz. It score 17706

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5926519

Even the 2015 game Evolve has the old I7 920 as a Recommended CPU. I mean a nealy 7 year old cpu as a Recommended cpu.

http://www.geforce.com/games-applications/pc-games/evolve/system-requirements

So what you thinking about this?

 

[dorsetknob]

I have been thinking about getting a I7 970/980 or a 6 core xeon and oc the crap out of it to give the old X58 platform a longer life span.

review the Xeon owners club thread for more info
here
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/xeon-owners-club.211143/
Overclocking can be impresive

 

[Tomgang]

review the Xeon owners club thread for more info
here
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/xeon-owners-club.211143/
Overclocking can be impresive

Oh my these old Xeon seem to be some nice overclock beast whit 6 cores and clocks around 4 to 4,5 GHz oc. This looks like to be a cheap and a great way to get more power whit out spending alot of money.
Very tempting i must say. Whit a xeon and some oc it looks like the old X58 platform can still be nice pc to work whit and play games on.

 

[sneekypeet]

We are drifting off topic again, so I think it is about time we close up shop!