Skylake 6600 vs 6600k

[taox]

umm so i should of bought the non-k version instead and save myself $25?

 

[Schmuckley]

Wow, I haven't seen anything that was that stupid since...IKD, but I'm sure it was one of your other posts.

You can't name a single game that requires 4.4GHz to run smoothly, because there isn't one.

Stop trolling already, we're getting tired of it.

Crysis,GTAV,GTAIV,Stalker SOC,Stalker ..next,Fallout 3,Fallout New Vegas,Crysis 2,Crysis Warhead,
Far Cry 2,Far Cry 3,
ARMA,... Now what were you saying? L.A. Noire.. Metro...Bioshock...
ALL benefit from overclocking.Do you you wish to compare some OC'd game benchmarks with whatever GPU you have against my "mighty" (weak) 7950 but my cpu is OC'd and yours isn't?

 

[cadaveca]

umm so i should of bought the non-k version instead and save myself $25?

No. Getting the "K" chip was the correct choice.

 

[Schmuckley]

Overclocking increases framerates..quite dramatically.

 

[Eric_Cartman]

Crysis,GTAV,GTAIV,Stalker SOC,Stalker ..next,Fallout 3,Fallout New Vegas,Crysis 2,Crysis Warhead,
Far Cry 2,Far Cry 3,
ARMA,... Now what were you saying? L.A. Noire.. Metro...Bioshock...
ALL benefit from overclocking.Do you you wish to compare some OC'd game benchmarks with whatever GPU you have against my "mighty" (weak) 7950 but my cpu is OC'd and yours isn't?

I didn't think I stuttered, I said you can't name a single game that requires 4.4GHz to run smoothly, and you still haven't.

Not a single one of those games requires 4.4GHz to run smoothly.

They might benefit from a CPU overclock, by a few unnoticeable frames, but they will be perfectly smooth with CPU clock speeds well below 4.4GHz.

Now you are just trying to change the argument to benefits from CPU overclocking because you know your original statement was full of shit.

That is what trolls do.

They make a bullshit statement to start and argument, then keep changing their side to try to keep the argument going.

It is called moving the goal posts, are you a Republican by any chance?

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

I just find it funny some random dude is arguing with the Motherboard / Memory reviewer for this site. You know the guy that runs more benchmarks and tests than probably any user on this forum. :

Can a CPU overclock improve gaming performance? Sure
Is a CPU overclock necessary to get playable frame rates? Nope

Only games that need a CPU overclock that I have ever found was Total War Rome II and Total War Atilla. Due to animation sub system being locked to 1 core. Minimum fps would plumment out of control down to single digits even with high end CPUs. An overclock could literally improve minimum frame rate by 30-50% getting it into an acceptable range. However that is pretty much the only game I have ever encountered where a CPU overclock was needed for playable frame rates. Even then only in very large battles in certain conditions.

I digress Dave is right other dude is kinda butthurt. The answer is not black and white.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

umm so i should of bought the non-k version instead and save myself $25?

I hate to be blunt here, but this whole discussion is getting silly.

Getting the K chips was a good choice. Overclocking can make a decent computer viable for a long time, as in how Sandy Bridge is functionally as good as Haswell and within spitting distance of Skylake despite going on 5 years old.

You'll be happy with a 6600k for the foreseeable future. When paired with a decent GPU, there's no reason gaming should be any issue at all. That extra $25 can likely buy you another year or two of usage, without being forced to upgrade.



There are games which require higher clocked processors, but in order to get to that point you've got to be poorly optimized and have settings high. Crysis has had an issue with being poorly written DX10, Fallout has run like crap because it's a project by Bethesda, and the other examples generally only require high CPU overclocks whenever you've decided to set all options to high and have a GPU that can't handle it. If that's your logic, try booting up Prototype on a modern CPU. I'll wait...

The known issue here is the same as the one with New Vegas and Fallout 3. These games fail whenever presented with anything more than a single thread (check around, there are a list of .ini tweaks that the community has made for these games, to compensate for poor code). Piss poor code produces piss poor games. Fixing poor code with higher clocks isn't an acceptable solution. It's throwing a bandage onto a gaping hole in your arm, and assuming that's good enough.






Side note:
@cadaveca , is your signature supposed to be the equation for a mandelbrot series? It's bothered the crap out of me, because I've always taken it as some sort of simple statement, but never been able to understand why.

, correct?

 

[Schmuckley]

I just find it funny some random dude is arguing with the Motherboard / Memory reviewer for this site. You know the guy that runs more benchmarks and tests than probably any user on this forum. :

Can a CPU overclock improve gaming performance? Sure
Is a CPU overclock necessary to get playable frame rates? Nope

Only games that need a CPU overclock that I have ever found was Total War Rome II and Total War Atilla. Due to animation sub system being locked to 1 core. Minimum fps would plumment out of control down to single digits even with high end CPUs. An overclock could literally improve minimum frame rate by 30-50% getting it into an acceptable range. However that is pretty much the only game I have ever encountered where a CPU overclock was needed for playable frame rates. Even then only in very large battles in certain conditions.

I digress Dave is right other dude is kinda butthurt. The answer is not black and white.

Yeah,whatever.I stand where I stand,Mr. Where do you stand?
I run more benchmarks than many,many people.I also have seen how games react.

If you don't think so;You would be mistaken.Notice the delidded Sandy bridge in my Avatar.Yeah,I did that.
Some random dude ranks higher than anyone on TPU's bench team.Not that I don't like TPU.but my allegiances are elsewhere.

 

[cadaveca]

Side note:
@cadaveca , is your signature supposed to be the equation for a mandelbrot series? It's bothered the crap out of me, because I've always taken it as some sort of simple statement, but never been able to understand why.

, correct?

That's my perverse sense of humour showing itself. You cannot display this equation here on the forums without making it a picture; code required doesn't parse in the forum.

Some random dude ranks higher than anyone on TPU's bench team.Not that I don't like TPU.but my allegiances are elsewhere.

Yeah, HWBOT and competitive benchmarking is not a common thing here. Not many users care about running benchmarks outside of informational pieces to guide purchasing decisions. I was one of the first HWBOT members, but haven't posted anything in years, since I left the XS team. The whole Andre incident left a bitter taste in my mouth.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

Yeah,whatever.I stand where I stand,Mr. Where do you stand?
I run more benchmarks than many,many people.I also have seen how games react.

If you don't think so;You would be mistaken.Notice the delidded Sandy bridge in my Avatar.Yeah,I did that.
Some random dude ranks higher than anyone on TPU's bench team.Not that I don't like TPU.but my allegiances are elsewhere.

Sounds butthurt to me.

All i can think is "oooooooh he benches hardware.... NEXT!" Just because you bench and your on HWBOT is not really impressive nor is a de lid of a CPU.

 

[Schmuckley]

Doesn't mean the FPS doesn't stay the same.What hardware do you bench? How far do you push your stuff? Thought so.

Until you offer up something benchworthy,you have 0 rights to criticize me

 

[cadaveca]

Until you offer up something benchworthy,you have 0 rights to criticize me

He's the cooler reviewer here. He doesn't need to justify himself. LuLz. Anyone is welcome to an opinion, but also, those opinions should not be a direct "attack" of other users. HIs opinion, like many other users in this thread, is that your opinion does not reflect truth. No big deal, just agree to disagree.

 

[Schmuckley]

Ain't no "attacks" going on.Prove me wrong,then you'll have room to talk.
Psst:You can't
So are you saying this guy get free hardware to review? I don't get that.
I pay for my hardware and rape it.
This somehow makes him more validated than me?
I don't think so.

 

[cadaveca]

Ain't no "attacks" going on.Prove me wrong,then you'll have room to talk.
Psst:You can't

I never said there was. I was merely regurgitating the rules of our forum here preemptively. So what's your point?

 

[CjStaal]

Ain't no "attacks" going on.Prove me wrong,then you'll have room to talk.
Psst:You can't
So are you saying this guy get free hardware to review? I don't get that.
I pay for my hardware and rape it.
This somehow makes him more validated than me?
I don't think so.

Can we ban this dude for a bit?

 

[Schmuckley]

My point is: Why was you regurgitating?
Yah
Overclocking increases framerates...I don't care what they say.It does.Quite significantly.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

I actually in a way agreed with you. Does overclocking help? yes usually minimum frame rates improve. Avg performance not so much.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...view-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/7
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1565&page=18


Depending on game a minimum FPS improvement of 5-20%. Typical Avg FPS improvement? 1-5% on average.

Does that improve gameplay? Sure. But when a minimum frame rate moves from 14 to 17 its not exactly amazing. nor is going from 130 to 133 or 110 to oh yeah 110.

 

[Schmuckley]

Can we ban this dude for a bit?

You want to ban me for speaking the truth?
The truth is the truth,and I will speak it.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

The truth is your acting like an ass over 5% avg performance or realistically speaking 2-5 fps.

Unless all the review sites and hardware sites are in cahoots to keep the Overclocking Gamer down and under their thumb. YAY Conspiracy theories

 

[Schmuckley]

The truth is your acting like an ass over 5% avg performance or realistically speaking 2-5 fps.

Not really.
We're talking a diff of over 35 fps from OCing vs stock frequencies.
It's nothing to sneeze at.

 

[Dead_Again]

I sincerely hope OP got the answer s/he was looking for, before it all got derailed...

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

Not really.
We're talking a diff of over 35 fps from OCing vs stock frequencies.
It's nothing to sneeze at.

Yeah what Game? solitare? where its getting 1000 FPS and it went to 1035 lol

 

[Schmuckley]

I sincerely hope OP got the answer s/he was looking for, before it all got derailed...

Op got the answer and made the right decision.

 

[Dead_Again]

Only OP can answer that one, so please stop trolling the thread...

 

[Schmuckley]

@ taox Go ahead and OC your CPU within the thermal limits.I may be banned for speaking the truth.I don't care;and I will say it anyway.Get the most performance out of what you have for the dollar.Peace.