Help me improve my dual core's performance

rtwjunkie · Dec 21, 2015

If I remember correcrly, the 5400 didn't get all that hot. You should be able to overclock with that cooler. What is your case airflow like? If it's not good, a better tower cooler won't help all that much.

MIRTAZAPINE · Dec 21, 2015

rtwjunkie said:
If I remember correcrly, the 5400 didn't get all that hot. You should be able to overclock with that cooler. What is your case airflow like? If it's not good, a better tower cooler won't help all that much.

I did do my overclock with a stock cooler when my tower is damaged without case on an open bench it remarkably cool very well at the highest overclock.

TiaanMarco48 · Dec 21, 2015

rtwjunkie said:
If I remember correcrly, the 5400 didn't get all that hot. You should be able to overclock with that cooler. What is your case airflow like? If it's not good, a better tower cooler won't help all that much.

I Have a 135 mm power supply cooler... 3 X 120mm Fans high speed and the whole case has honeycomb cutouts for maximum airflow..

dorsetknob · Dec 21, 2015

to make your Pc Faster you need to spend some money
If your too poor to spend money then your options are severly limited

Toothless · Dec 21, 2015

TL;DR get a job is what I'm seeing.

ShiBDiB · Dec 21, 2015

Toothless said:
TL;DR get a job is what I'm seeing.

That and somehow SSD's are the cure to everything...

Everytime I see someone say an SSD is the solution to problems like this I want to punch a baby...

Deleted member 67555 · Dec 21, 2015

Honestly I think a much faster cpu could be had for about the same price as a cooler on that platform...I'd look into that first.
then yes double the memory and get a cheap GFX...money...no way around it

Keullo-e · Dec 21, 2015

I don't see a problem OC'ing it with the stock-like cooler since those E5000 series doesn't run very hot.

Jetster · Dec 21, 2015

Overclocking with a FSB can get complicated

Deleted member 67555 · Dec 21, 2015

If I remember correctly you can drop the fsb from 800mhz to 667mhz and Then raise the fsb to 105 for an amazing 135mhz bringing him to 2.935Ghz...safely with the stock cooler..
But if you need to raise any voltages you also need better cooling...

But I'd buy a cheap gfx or faster CPU first

Vayra86 · Dec 21, 2015

ShiBDiB said:
That and somehow SSD's are the cure to everything...

Everytime I see someone say an SSD is the solution to problems like this I want to punch a baby...

I've seen SSD recommended on Windows XP systems with 2GB RAM and no free SATA slots. Babies were punched.

On topic;
- don't invest in this system
- start saving
- see if you can extract some more performance on your current solution (cpu/cooler)
- forget about that SSD. It is secondary. HDD's do the work just fine, especially on a tight budget an SSD is a waste.

R-T-B · Dec 21, 2015

ShiBDiB said:
Everytime I see someone say an SSD is the solution to problems like this I want to punch a baby...

Me too. But I just like the idea of punching babies, so I may be biased.

Vayra86 · Dec 21, 2015

R-T-B said:
Me too. But I just like the idea of punching babies, so I may be biased.

Much more satisfying than shaking anyway

SnakeDoctor · Dec 21, 2015

Upgrade to Windows x64
Get a GPU
Fit the Core 2 duo you said you have,OC to 3ghz on stock cooler

When was last time pc was cleaned / Formatted ?

TiaanMarco48 · Dec 21, 2015

SnakeDoctor said:
Upgrade to Windows x64
Get a GPU
Fit the Core 2 duo you said you have,OC to 3ghz on stock cooler

When was last time pc was cleaned / Formatted ?

About a week ago...

jmcslob said:
If I remember correctly you can drop the fsb from 800mhz to 667mhz and Then raise the fsb to 105 for an amazing 135mhz bringing him to 2.935Ghz...safely with the stock cooler..
But if you need to raise any voltages you also need better cooling...

But I'd buy a cheap gfx or faster CPU first

Man i had my Ati Radeon gt9600 but it broke...

PLAfiller · Dec 21, 2015

ShiBDiB said:
That and somehow SSD's are the cure to everything...

Everytime I see someone say an SSD is the solution to problems like this I want to punch a baby...

Yes, SSD's can do anything....decidedly anything.

He should absolutely, positively, I could not emphasize this more, buy an SSD

/ sarcasm

On topic: my parents use a 775 system. 4gb ram and a quad core Q9XXX series. To be fair I dropped them a cheapo Sandisk 128 GB SSD two years ago and the system breezes through Windows 10/ 720p Skype conference calls and everyday office work with no trouble. Honestly, SSDs dropped in price a lot, I don't think a 64GB or 128 GB would be a mistake, if you buy one. Punch babies if you'd like, but for a short term solution I say get one if you can.

CAPSLOCKSTUCK · Dec 21, 2015

R-T-B said:
Me too. But I just like the idea of punching babies, so I may be biased.

"I want an SSD Grandad"..

......"No, you need more memory"

Mussels · Dec 21, 2015

I just sold a Q9550 system yesterday with the best CPU for that socket you could expect to have.

with 4GB of ram in a clean install of windows 10, it ran alright - but 2GB of ram was used just idling at the desktop.
upgrade go 8GB of ram if your motherboard supports it, or work towards a cheap DDR3 based system in a newer socket. its old enough that the motherboard and its features (RAM limits, in this case) are the real problem.

Steve-007UK · Dec 21, 2015

Having just fixed up an old pc for someone with 2 gig of ram i would not suggest an SSD at all because once you start doing stuff its going to batter the shit out of the SSD drive just like it did with the HDD in the pc i just fixed.

I had some old ram so added another gig to the pc i fixed up and it helped a lot but i would have been happyer with 4gig but did not have any spare 2gig sticks.

Best option in my opinion is adding another 2 gig of ram first as this will help a lot more than an SSD will.

Now if you had 4gig of ram already then an SSD drive might be usefull.

PLAfiller · Dec 21, 2015

animal007uk said:
Now if you had 4gig of ram already then an SSD drive might be usefull.

I think he has: it says 2 x Apacer 2048GB in his specs.

Steve-007UK · Dec 21, 2015

lZKoce said:
I think he has: it says 2 x Apacer 2048GB in his specs.

Fair enough missed that thought it said 2 gig at first lol.

Mussels · Dec 21, 2015

4GB is not enough for windows 10, as 10 itself uses 2GB of that. the remainder is not enough for modern web browsers, let alone heavier tasks.

neatfeatguy · Dec 21, 2015

I don't see why some folks are saying you need to get a new cooler. While it's not the same beast, I did OC my younger brothers Phenom II x4 820 from stock (2.8Ghz) to 3.05 (I was able to increase the FSB from 200 to 218). I didn't have to adjust the voltage to achieve the overclock and the RAM took the OC just fine without adjustments. He's just got the stock cooler on it. Without having to adjust the voltage, there was no temperature increase.

Only real issue you might encounter pushing the FSB is that the RAM speed is locked with it and pushing the FSB increases the CPU and RAM speed. You may have to adjust the RAM speed down or tinker with the timings if you raise the FSB too high. It sounds more confusing then it really is. Take your time, follow the few guides posted throughout this topic and see what you can get done.

A decent aftermarket CPU cooler can really make the difference in allowing you to push the voltage and the OC higher. If you can't afford one, it shouldn't prevent you from OC'ing. You just won't be able to achieve as good of an overclock.

Nelson Ng · Dec 24, 2015

Vayra86 said:
- forget about that SSD. It is secondary. HDD's do the work just fine, especially on a tight budget an SSD is a waste.

Have you even "used" a SSD?

SSDs are used as Primary drives, primarily as Windows Boot drives because they can speed up the Windows load times tremendously and makes the system so much more responsive. Remember when RAM is in limited capacity and Windows need to frequently page them to the HDD and the system "freezes" at this stage? The solution is to increase the RAM capacity! Similarly, having an SSD for the Windows partition is like loading Windows from RAM instead of from a magnetic disk.

SSDs are extremely relevant these days because their prices have dropped so much that every new system should have a SSD for the Windows partition. Even a 120GB SSD will do wonders! For a several years old system, adding a SSD and migrating Windows to this drive will do more good than most other upgrades.

Yes, HDD are fine, but that's because they are very cheap for TBs of capacity. Hence, HDD is usually the only option when you need massive capacity for the lowest cost, and speed is not the primary requirement. Unless your money grows on trees, no one will install a 2TB SSD just to see their games load 10s faster ...

Thus, the best solution is to have a SSD as a Windows Boot drive and HDD(s) to store your data, photos, videos, games, etc.

Best regards,

Nelson Ng Yeng Wai
(Singapore)

EarthDog · Dec 24, 2015

Nelson Ng said:
Thus, the best solution is to have a SSD as a Windows Boot drive and HDD(s) to store your data, photos, videos, games, etc.

Or, you know, grab a 256GB-512GB, install windows on it and a couple of games you play. Then a HDD for the rest. As you said, prices are pretty cheap. The SSD for windows only thing left the building a couple years ago as far as I am concerned.

Also, the difference in game load times can be TREMENDOUS, not just "10s" faster. Take Battlefield for example. If you are loading a map with a HDD, it could take you well over a minute, while with an SSD, you are looking around 10-30s depending on many other factors.

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