Pirating Group 3DM Will Stop Cracking Single-player Games for One Year

[P4-630]

"Chinese software pirates 3DM have announced that the group will cease cracking single-player games for one year to see how it affects sales.
According to TorrentFreak, 3DM’s leader “Bird Sister” made the announcement on her personal blog. “We just had an internal meeting. Starting at the Chinese New Year [February 8], 3DM will not crack any single-player games,” she wrote. “We’ll take a look at the situation in a year’s time to see if genuine sales have grown.”
She also wrote, “Cracks by overseas warez groups will still get posted on the [3DM] forum, and we will actively deal with these,” but it’s not confirmed whether that means the group will ban other cracks on their forums.
Last month, Bird Sister wrote that the new “Denuvo” digital rights management system used in games like Just Cause 3 and Dragon Age: Inquisition was so sophisticated that she predicted “in two years time I’m afraid there will be no free games to play in the world.” Inquisition took the group about a month to crack, but Just Cause 3, which released last December, has still not been cracked."

http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2016/0...king-single-player-games-for-one-year/191629/

 

[silentbogo]

At least someone decided to run this experiment to either confirm or contradict MPAA claims about software pirating.

I myself frequently resort to pirated copies "at my own risk" to evaluate whether a game or a software is worth spending money on, because in most cases I have no other option. Traditional demos have almost vanished from the existence, so a typical consumer can only evaluate a game by hyped-up marketing materials and third-party opinions (e.g. reviews). So, while evil pirates and illegal users like me will have no access to cracked software/games, I still think this is a long-awaited experiment. Wondering if other hackers will show support in this endeavor (Reloaded, Skidrow, Razor1911)?

 

[P4-630]

I used to live in Thailand for about 10 years and it is easier to buy a pirated copy than the original there since pirated versions are more available there than original also there were shops selling both legal and pirated

 

[64K]

I don't follow games cracking but I wonder if the stopping cracking games for one year isn't more about Denuvo DRM giving them too much trouble to crack than it is about how pirating is affecting sales. Maybe they need a year to figure out how to get around Denuvo..

 

[newtekie1]

The reality is this "test" is useless. If they stop cracking games, another group will step in to take their place.

Everyone thought when aXXo stopped releasing pirated movies that was the end of pirated movies. But yify became popular and was just as consistent in releases. Now, yify is gone, and everyong is again thinking that is the end to consistent movie releases, but we a already seeing new consistent releasers.

At least someone decided to run this experiment to either confirm or contradict MPAA claims about software pirating.

I'm pretty sure the MPAA has never made a single claim about software piracy.

 

[ZeppMan217]

Uh, Denuvo is dog shit. It's part of the reason Lords of the Fallen and Just Cause 3 require 12+GB of ram and run like shit in general.

 

[OneMoar]

3DM isn't much of a cracking group generally they release shit nobody else wants to bother with
they are just butthurt that denuvo kicked there asses after they went on and on about how they where gonna crack it
fear not somebody else will crack it carry on people
3DM doesn't release nearly the volume of games that re-loaded or revolt or any of the other 15 groups do ... they are wanna bes
also troll thread requesting lock/deletion we don't talk about piracy on tpu

 

[silentbogo]

I used to live in Thailand for about 10 years and it is easier to buy a pirated copy than the original there since pirated versions are more available there than original also there were shops selling both legal and pirated

About 15 years ago the same thing was happening in Ukraine - before Stalker, Cossacks, SpaceRangers and a rising popularity of Steam, the only games that were available on the market were pirated. We only had an option of buying a good copy (CD box + quality printed cover), or a bad copy (retail blank in a white envelope, signed with marker). Or at least that's how it was in my home town.

I'm pretty sure the MPAA has never made a single claim about software piracy.

Sorry, "pirating in general" is gonna be more appropriate. I was in a hurry, so I slipped in phrasing a bit.
I just had to mention MPAA as they were one of the biggest supporters of SOPA/PIPA acts, and even before that they've put much pressure on economically impaired countries, like mine, to the point where in mid-2000s most legit ISPs had to fight piracy on someone else's behalf by completely blocking bittorrent/eDonkey/other_P2P usage on their networks (issuing bans and/or contract termination etc.). Fortunately this nightmare died down in less than 2 years and today everything is back to normal.

 

[RejZoR]

Even if not a single game could be cracked, assholes in suits with briefcases will bitch over piracy. Because it's just so convenient to have a scapegoat at hand instead of actually releasing quality games.

I've stopped buying buggy pathetic games from Ubisoft entirely. I don't care what they release, I neither buy them or pirate them. They just dont' exist for me anymore. Many years have passed and I haven't played or pirated any of their games. And I frankly don't miss them at all. I'm just wondering, am I the only one doing this considering they are releasing clones of same stupid concept like how rabbits make new bunnies. Far Cry, Assassin's Creed, Watch Dogs etc, all exactly the same shit concept in different skin. And people flock in to buy this cap en mass on their even more shitty UPlay platform. WHY!? Why do people support such stupid lame companies? Don't even pirate their shit, just ignore them entirely. Then lets see what they'll bitch about once their sales sink into depths and people lose interest to even pirate their games.

It's nothing more humiliating than pirates not even wanting to pirate the game. Because that means the game is so bad people don't even want to pirate it for free. Which should raise alarms at any gaming company HQ. Unless they are wearing blinders which is also a plausible reason for their idiotic business decisions.

 

[the54thvoid]

Lol.

I'm so entitled to have anything for free. The internet is free man, stuff should all be free.

Please note, that's sarcasm. I deplore mass piracy of games. I also deplore massive profiteering and charging £50 for a non physical DL. What's the answer? Like people bitch about hardware, vote with your wallet and don't buy it. Or, like some games that took years to make and a lot of effort (Witcher series as a prime example) shell out the cash and pay for the right to play it.
Piracy isn't the answer, never has been. Can't wait for the 'pseudo ethical' reply to this.

 

[OneMoar]

Lol.

I'm so entitled to have anything for free. The internet is free man, stuff should all be free.

Please note, that's sarcasm. I deplore mass piracy of games. I also deplore massive profiteering and charging £50 for a non physical DL. What's the answer? Like people bitch about hardware, vote with your wallet and don't buy it. Or, like some games that took years to make and a lot of effort (Witcher series as a prime example) shell out the cash and pay for the right to play it.
Piracy isn't the answer, never has been. Can't wait for the 'pseudo ethical' reply to this.

nobody cares this is the internet there are no rules here

 

[natr0n]

The current scene releases are pretty lackluster.

 

[ZeppMan217]

The current scene releases are pretty lackluster.

When every game needs to be followed by gigabytes of patches...

 

[RejZoR]

I don't mind buying good games. But they elease so much garbage it's very hard to do that. And people are even retarded enough to buy that shit. Like EA's latest Star Wars thingie for 120 bucks in a form of "Deluxe" edition that only brings bunch of stupid useless junk. You got to be retarded in the head to buy that crap.

 

[Ferrum Master]

I was thinking 3DM did their job because of the china people behind the wall. They have no ability to even buy and activate the game. I wonder what changed in that department.

Well I agree about EA and ubercrap... Actually I cracked my Steam Farcry2 copy just because the stupid thing wanted to install uplay atop steam for cloud saving etc bullshit... It irritated me sooo much... Just don't buy from stupid companies. CD Project just show em how with GOG, if the game is good, it will sell no matter what...

 

[RCoon]

Maybe its just me, but I get the subtle impression that an enormous percentage of people who pirate are under the age of 18. As soon as I turned 18 and got a job after sixth form/college, I felt zero need to pirate anything because I finally had money and bought what I wanted. Literally all my friends pirated everything back in school. Now we're all in our mid 20's with Netflix subscriptions and Steam libraries filled with legitimately purchased titles.

I'm sure there's a small percentage of people who do have jobs and just don't pay for things like scumbags, but I guess those people are never going to buy anything ever anyways so there's not much point in caring too much about them.

 

[medi01]

Somebody on the internet pretends to be the only group hacking games out there, yay, how refreshing.

"Times pirated" numbers are always inflated, since those into it, download first, check if any good after.

I had to "pirate" my legit Starcraft (CD emulator) because damn thing kept asking about CD. Then Blizzard switched to online DRM, oh well..

I mostly buy on gog.com, so couldn't care less anyhow.


PS
Googled Denuvo protection, so Dragon Age : Inquisition had it and too yay, a whole month to hack. (and it was 3DM who did it, ha), and Just Cause 3, released in Nov is still not hacked? Impressive.

If they perfect this kind of protection, it mgiht be A GOOD THING, real alternative to online-DRM.

 

[RejZoR]

Maybe its just me, but I get the subtle impression that an enormous percentage of people who pirate are under the age of 18. As soon as I turned 18 and got a job after sixth form/college, I felt zero need to pirate anything because I finally had money and bought what I wanted. Literally all my friends pirated everything back in school. Now we're all in our mid 20's with Netflix subscriptions and Steam libraries filled with legitimately purchased titles.

I'm sure there's a small percentage of people who do have jobs and just don't pay for things like scumbags, but I guess those people are never going to buy anything ever anyways so there's not much point in caring too much about them.

This. When I was a kid, I pirated a lot of games. But after I got a job, I haven't pirated a single game. In fact, I've re-purchased pretty much all games that were pirated from the past (some are not available to purchase anymore). Then again, there was no Steam or GOG back then. Only way to get games was through physical copies and there is no way on Earth my parents would let me buy all of them even if I had the needed money. Now, buying games is so simple and affordable I just can't be bothered pirating them. Especially GOG games which are 100% DRM free. So I don't get screwed over with a legit purchase where pirates have zero problems with cracked games. But oh well.

 

[the54thvoid]

I've got nothing against cracking a legit game to bypass God awful download managers, like Uplay. There's a distinction between piracy and cracking and while cracking is involved in piracy, its not necessarily a 'theft'.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Only way to get games was through physical copies and there is no way on Earth my parents would let me buy

Well those are the post Russian occupation hiccups for our eastern europe lands. We were cut off from everything, during the 90ties there was no legal option to even get a legal copy... maybe in Germany only as they recovered in a really german way... but they had assets...

But now... yeah there are kind of people who don't care... I buy them because I am lazy.

 

[RejZoR]

Most games are so cheap I just can't be bothered to pirate... I don't have the time or nerves to fiddle with cracks and other nonsense.

 

[Vayra86]

Somebody on the internet pretends to be the only group hacking games out there, yay, how refreshing.

"Times pirated" numbers are always inflated, since those into it, download first, check if any good after.

I had to "pirate" my legit Starcraft (CD emulator) because damn thing kept asking about CD. Then Blizzard switched to online DRM, oh well..

I mostly buy on gog.com, so couldn't care less anyhow.


PS
Googled Denuvo protection, so Dragon Age : Inquisition had it and too yay, a whole month to hack. (and it was 3DM who did it, ha), and Just Cause 3, released in Nov is still not hacked? Impressive.

If they perfect this kind of protection, it mgiht be A GOOD THING, real alternative to online-DRM.

Denuvo takes a shit load of PC resources and is a root kit in disguise. If you think it is a good thing that a PC game inherently invades the OS and system, that is your opinion but it certainly is not mine. Also consider that paying customers suffer from this, while the pirates do not.

 

[Drone]

Piracy is illegal and DRM sucks monkey ass. What to do? GOG all the way!

 

[RejZoR]

Unfortunately GOG mostly focuses on old classic games. If it released everything we can get on Steam in DRM-less form I'd only be buying on GOG. But without that, I need to make compromises.

 

[medi01]

enuvo takes a shit load of PC resources and is a root kit in disguise. If you think it is a good thing that a PC game inherently invades the OS and system, that is your opinion but it certainly is not mine. Also consider that paying customers suffer from this, while the pirates do not.

I admit it's arguable, but in "will still run on your machine, wasting resources on DRM" vs "will stop, if some online shit goes offline" I choose the former.

Unfortunately GOG mostly focuses on old classic games. If it released everything we can get on Steam in DRM-less form I'd only be buying on GOG. But without that, I need to make compromises.

A shame is when gog.com is vastly outsold by Valve despite having same or lower price and no DRM.

And I think it' snot that much of GOG's focus, rather than publishers avoiding it.
The only new AAA game that I can recall on GOG was Witcher 3.