GTX 770 VS GTX 970

[MaximusE]

Hey guys.

So i own at the moment a 4930k with rampage iv black edition and 3 gtx 770 video cards.

is it worth to sell both 3 and get two 970 or theres not a diff between a gtx 770 and a 970.

or is it better to get just 1 gtx 980

let me know.

thanks

 

[GhostRyder]

Hey guys.

So i own at the moment a 4930k with rampage iv black edition and 3 gtx 770 video cards.

is it worth to sell both 3 and get two 970 or theres not a diff between a gtx 770 and a 970.

or is it better to get just 1 gtx 980

let me know.

thanks

Probably better to wait, Pascal and Artic Island GPU's are coming soon enough so I would just stick it out with that system and upgrade then because you should have plenty for most tasks right now.

 

[SK-1]

At the risk of offending several TPU members...At what resolution do you game?

 

[Devon68]

is it worth to sell both 3 and get

What?

 

[MaximusE]

What?

meant all 3..

 

[Kanan]

meant all 3..

If you want to upgrade your system now, and don't wait, go for 1x 980 Ti (way better than 2x 970, no SLI problems). If you can wait, wait for the new GPUs that come in a few months.

 

[trog100]

If you want to upgrade your system now, and don't wait, go for 1x 980 Ti (way better than 2x 970, no SLI problems). If you can wait, wait for the new GPUs that come in a few months.

sorry but i disagree.. there are no sli problems.. maybe in the past but not with current games.. i did just get rid of two 970 cards in sli and have made direct comparisons with just running one of my 980 TI cards.. in every test i have run the pair of 970 cards out perform the single 980 TI card..

which is why i bought two 980 TI cards.. one would not have been the upgrade i desired.. i will emphasis desired not needed.. i buy things just to try them and make comparisons..

the only thing i am gonna say here is my comments are based on real life experience and testing.. make of that what you will..

two 970 cards in sli give around 10 to 15% better performance than a single 980 TI card.. i have not seen one instance where they perform less well..

a single 980 TI does have more memory but so far i have not seen gain from that..

in truth both solutions work well.. i just dispute you "way better" assertion.. simply because it isnt true..

trog

ps.. i am not gonna get involved any further.. i have said my bit and will stop there..

 

[Jborg]

980 or 980 ti don't look back. I wish I would have gotten a 980. Although the 970 does everything I need just fine. I think at this point you will get more time out of the 980 or 980 ti down the line

 

[trog100]

the 970 is basically a budget 980 at a good price.. the 980 card costs a fair bit more for what amounts to a small performance increase.. oddly enough the same applies to the 980 TI.. its a budget Titan X..

some of these cards are better value for money than others.. because of this i would never buy a 980 or Titan X card.. the small gains aint worth the extra cost over the slightly cut down versions of the same thing..

buy a single 970 now and if you need more bung another one in.. i would forget the 980 card the price just aint right.. or follow the same principle with the 980 TI.. buy one now and if you need more bung in another one..

trog

 

[Kanan]

sorry but i disagree.. there are no sli problems.. maybe in the past but not with current games.. i did just get rid of two 970 cards in sli and have made direct comparisons with just running one of my 980 TI cards.. in every test i have run the pair of 970 cards out perform the single 980 TI card..

which is why i bought two 980 TI cards.. one would not have been the upgrade i desired.. i will emphasis desired not needed.. i buy things just to try them and make comparisons..

the only thing i am gonna say here is my comments are based on real life experience and testing.. make of that what you will..

two 970 cards in sli give around 10 to 15% better performance than a single 980 TI card.. i have not seen one instance where they perform less well..

a single 980 TI does have more memory but so far i have not seen gain from that..

in truth both solutions work well.. i just dispute you "way better" assertion.. simply because it isnt true..

trog

ps.. i am not gonna get involved any further.. i have said my bit and will stop there..

It is true, just look for all the threads and topics in the internet about SLI & Crossfire problems (+ my own experience on multi GPU systems). Quite surprised however you are disputing such a fact. Sounds somewhat more like you want to defend your system, well man, it isn't about you and it's not personal, so I don't care. Fact is, single GPU has not the SLI problems and the few % more perf of 2x 970 compared to 980 Ti isn't worth all the hassle (+ the hassle you have with integrating two graphics cards in your system).

OP: 2nd option is to get a GTX 980 or Nano btw., or just 1x 970 / R9 390. I like the AMD cards more though, they are somewhat faster and more future proof.

 

[trog100]

i always find that personal experience make a better yardstick than what i read on the internet.. 90% of it is total bollocks..

what i read on the internet tells me that crossfire still has problems mainly with poor driver optimization.. my own personal experience tells me that the nvidia solution dosnt have the same problems..

dont get me wrong here.. bought into multiple graphics cards around 8 years ago.. back then it was pretty much a waste of space.. one of my cards soon got switched off.. but the situation has now improved.. more so with nvidia than amd.. i have recently run two sli set ups.. first a pair of 970 cards and then a pair of 980 TI cards..

i aint trying to justify my own system in the slightest i am simply basing my comment on what i find.. sli at least has come of age i.. have not found one single issue with it.. and you are just gonna have take my word that i have looked..

now the price has come down the amd nano is a better buy than the nvidia 980 for sure even though it is severely power limited due to its small size.. but i think the nvidia 980 ti is currently the top dog card and the one to buy..

all i am saying is that nvidia sli dosnt have the problems some folks on the internet say it does.. there is a pattern to internet negative comment.. mostly it comes from those that dont have whatever it is they are knocking.. there is also a pattern to positive comment.. justifying what you own is pretty common.. a degree of bias always has to be allowed for..

i do my best to be objective.. the real joy with sli or crossfire is that it makes a very nice upgrade path.. add one card and if need be at a later date add another.. no wastage and very efficient.. a good way of future proofing or at least getting a decent upgrade at minimal cost..

and my own pair of 970 cards out performed a single 980 ti card in all the tests i have run.. if i didnt like buying and trying new stuff i should have stuck with them.. he he

knowing my current sli set up is more than i need i did run just the one card for some time.. which is how i know that the single 980 TI didnt quite match up to the pair of 970 cards i had just gotten rid of.. now i run two cards but frame rate cap them..

trog

 

[BarbaricSoul]

theres not a diff between a gtx 770 and a 970.

A single GTX 970 is about equal to a single GTX 780ti GHZ edition in performance.

 

[rtwjunkie]

A single GTX 970 is about equal to a single GTX 780ti GHZ edition in performance.

This is where I bring in personal experience as @trog100 says above (albeit on the topic of SLI). I would have to say IRL the 780Ti outperforms a 970.

The reason? While I still had my 780, a near identical system in my house (except for an i7 3770 clocked to 3.7 vs my i7 3770k clocked at 4.1), my performance was higher accross the board with JUST a 780. The only limitation being the 3GB of VRAM on the 780.

I really don't think my 3770k accounted for much difference other than raising the minimum frame rates.

 

[Kursah]

Last comparisons I checked a 780Ti was on par with a 980. There waseven a TPU user recently that compared the two and both traded blows pretty evenly though I do believe the 980 had a slight edge.

If I hadn't gotten such an awesome deal on a 980Ti I was gonna get a used 780Ti because performance was so close to the 980 that budget-wise it made more sense.

 

[SK-1]

i always find that personal experience make a better yardstick than what i read on the internet.. 90% of it is total bollocks..

This!^ ......I've almost always had multiple card setups and NEVER have had 95% the "problems" these people bitch about! Half of their complaining arises from green eyed jealousy, I'm almost positive now.

 

[El_Mayo]

If you've already got 3 770s you aren't gonna be hurting for performance! I'd definitely wait, not like you're gonna be getting 20fps or something unplayable right now

 

[las]

A custom 980 Ti is better than 970 SLI, for sure. Had both. Never going back to SLI or CF again.

Here's a recent test, with newest drivers:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_980_Ti_Matrix/23.html

970 SLI = 3.5 GB low bandwidth memory and SLI issues / bad scaling / lack of support and profiles. SLI will never be the same as single GPU. Benchmark performance is useless when gaming performance is alot different.

It's simply not worth it. A single powerful GPU is much smoother in my opinion, because minimum fps will be higher on a fast single GPU 90% of the time when you compare 2 mid-end cards vs a high end. Yes, I consider 970 mid-end, because Fury / Fury X and 980 Ti / Titan X is much faster than 970.

980 Ti delivers stable frametimes and has no microstuttering (all multi GPU configs has this, how much, depends on the game, in some games it's crazy and ruins the experience.)

So many issues on new releases with multi GPU, even in AAA titles. Never again.

 

[Vayra86]

Last comparisons I checked a 780Ti was on par with a 980. There waseven a TPU user recently that compared the two and both traded blows pretty evenly though I do believe the 980 had a slight edge.

If I hadn't gotten such an awesome deal on a 980Ti I was gonna get a used 780Ti because performance was so close to the 980 that budget-wise it made more sense.

In newer titles and with a lot of tesselation, the Maxwells lead, even a 970 beats 780ti in some more recent titles >2015. 780ti has more raw power and a lot more bus.

If you have 3x 770 now, I wouldn't really want to upgrade myself. But if you have the itch, 980ti / Fury X would be go-to. Don't buy into SLI now, total waste.

 

[trog100]

its a shame we have such conflicting options regarding multiple graphics card solutions.. some like me say Yay and some say Nay..

both sides of the argument cant be right.. thats for sure..

unless the argument is looked at differently.. the 970 is an upper mid range card if you already own one and want more grunt its makes sense to add another one..

whereas starting from scratch it makes more sense to buy the 980 TI.. you can always add another one later.. he he he

years ago when the idea of multiple graphics card was new.. it was pushed as the perfect upgrade path.. buy one (cheaper) card now and add another as and when it suits you was the concept.. it sounded good at time.. over the years the idea has had its problems but most of them have been sorted by now..

i still think its the perfect upgrade path.. only i dont think much is to be gained with more than two cards.. after that the scaling gets very poor..

those still wondering about such things are just gonna have to research all the positive and all the negative comments and make their own mind up..

my own theory on all this "contradiction" stuff is simple.. the only real way to find out is to buy and try.. which is something i do on a regular basis.. i do know it costs money but at least in my own mind i get to find out some answers.. as opposed to being totally confused by all the bollocks i read on the internet..

most folks when they see two ( or more) so called experts with different opinions try and figure out which expert is right.. me.. i tend to think its quite possible that none of them have a clue as to what they are talking about..

i do a lot on internet reading.. one thing i am sure of is.. most of it really is mis-information or total bollocks.. the bad outnumbers the good by a least ten to one i recon..

trog

 

[Vayra86]

trog100 has spoken true words.

I've also tried SLI though, and yes you get more perf. but I cannot say it is perfect, or as perfect as the investment would warrant for me.