The "Perfect" RTS

AsGStorm · Aug 24, 2007

yeah, theres not too much of a variety of units in either. think i'll go with supreme commander.

Ravenas · Aug 25, 2007

Protius said:
you must've not played coh multiplayer

I played every aspect of the game, it gets old quick as I said in my previous post.

Protius · Aug 25, 2007

Ravenas said:
I played every aspect of the game, it gets old quick as I said in my previous post.

to each his own... i guess

Kursah · Aug 25, 2007

My vote is still for Supreme Commander as there has never been a game that did so much correctly, and in depth. Like I stated before, if I want to get technical I play Supreme Commander, if I want a quick match I play CnC 3. CoH is great also, definately a different and very interesting take on RTS, but Supreme Commander in my mind tops any RTS ever made, which was it's goal. It does take a hefty system to run, but is easily attainable now-a-days. If you are an RTS fan, you owe it to yourself to enjoy Supreme Commander, because to me and many others it is the SUPREME RTS! FTW!

There are many great RTS genre based games, for me it started with Command and Conquer, I have been hooked on RTS games since. Red Alert was probably my favorite offline, Sole Survivor was probably my most favorite online (who played SS? It was great fun!), but now, with current technology, not many can argue Supreme Commander does an excellent job of utilizing current PC technology and providing a great gaming environment. :toast:

revantina · Aug 25, 2007

i suggest u write ur own game engine n create ur own perfect rts. :laugh:

nothing is perfect in this world. :cool:

revantina · Aug 25, 2007

shut up ur mind n make no mor choices. choices'll spoil u. get into empire at war. n don't argue with me. :rolleyes:

Ravenas · Aug 25, 2007

revantina said:
shut up ur mind n make no mor choices. choices'll spoil u. get into empire at war. n don't argue with me.

My only question is... What in the hell are you talking about? :wtf:

Kursah · Aug 25, 2007

Ravenas said:
My only question is... What in the hell are you talking about?

AsGStorm · Aug 25, 2007

I got command and conquer TW, half the times i play there. i get people trying to destroy my defenses instead of ripping through my base, while i destroy through a side. It is quite boring

AsGStorm · Aug 25, 2007

well i got Supreme Commander today, so far its pretty cool. nicely balanced from what i can see (but according to pros theres a some craft called the "mercy" with is OP). the graphics aren't amazing as CnC and it has a unit cap. but its gameplay out does any RTS ive played (cept pop maybe). one day i'll try CoH online

Ravenas · Aug 25, 2007

What are your system specs?

niko084 · Aug 26, 2007

Ravenas said:
What are your system specs?

Ditto... Supreme commanders graphics are insane!

You just need one heck of a system to crank them up and 2 monitors to really use it

psyko12 · Aug 26, 2007

Any1 tried Dawn of War series? Warhammer 40k type... Space marines, necrons etc? Either that or SuppComm for me

Deleted member 3 · Aug 26, 2007

niko084 said:
Ditto... Supreme commanders graphics are insane!

You just need one heck of a system to crank them up and 2 monitors to really use it

Supcom graphics don't require a fast system, it's the physics that do. Every trajectory and such is calculated real time instead of using some table and/or odds to hit or miss. When there are many units this gets your system to the ground quite easily, graphics aren't really the issue.

niko084 · Aug 26, 2007

DanTheBanjoman said:
Supcom graphics don't require a fast system, it's the physics that do. Every trajectory and such is calculated real time instead of using some table and/or odds to hit or miss. When there are many units this gets your system to the ground quite easily, graphics aren't really the issue.

I know very well... My point was it will use massive video and looks REALLY nice if you have a hot video card setup and multi monitors so you can see one zoomed in and one zoomed out.

Kursah · Aug 26, 2007

I have everything cranked up in SupCom, and it runs and looks amazing! It doesn't have the hi-contrast graphics of CnC 3. But it's cool how the area is affected by warfare, and tell me that the water effects in that game aren't the best of any RTS? Sure some of the ship movement isn't the most realistic, but the waves, ripples, reflections and so on look beautiful. And when you start and your mech lands in the middle of a small forest watching trees get laid out and start on fire and spread is awesome. The physics is great, the graphics to me are still great, it will take a lot for SupCom to be beaten in my mind.

I love the zooming, and just love the overall game, it's wonderful! :toast:

Supreme Commander FTW!

AsGStorm · Aug 26, 2007

yea its an interesting take, cus the enviroment does get effected by what you do..the bad thing is the small online player base i guess. but hopefully this will grow with the expansions. and there's only one balance problem - mercys (guided missles)

erocker · Aug 26, 2007

Have you tried the World in Conflict demo yet?

theonetruewill · Aug 26, 2007

DanTheBanjoman said:
Supcom graphics don't require a fast system, it's the physics that do. Every trajectory and such is calculated real time instead of using some table and/or odds to hit or miss. When there are many units this gets your system to the ground quite easily, graphics aren't really the issue.

I think you're right there. The game just slows down as the battle sizes and unit numbers increase. 8 player uncapped matches are becoming a no-no for me on my aging athlon, regardless of resolution.

niko084 · Aug 26, 2007

theonetruewill said:
I think you're right there. The game just slows down as the battle sizes and unit numbers increase. 8 player uncapped matches are becoming a no-no for me on my aging athlon, regardless of resolution.

Yes SupCom is processor and ram intensive! VERY!

What I was saying is the graphics can get really nice if you have good enough video cards and you can always enjoy them if you have dual monitors.

e6300 or better
2 gigs of ram or better

A clean running machine and your pretty good to go for Supcom, even in the largest maps and games.

theonetruewill · Aug 26, 2007

niko084 said:
Yes SupCom is processor and ram intensive! VERY!

What I was saying is the graphics can get really nice if you have good enough video cards and you can always enjoy them if you have dual monitors.

e6300 or better
2 gigs of ram or better

A clean running machine and your pretty good to go for Supcom, even in the largest maps and games.

I think I'm going to say overclocked E6300 or better. Otherwise you'll need a E6600 at least to see it's full potential. I agree with 2GB's or fast RAM is also essential. It's the reason I bought another 1GB.

niko084 · Aug 26, 2007

theonetruewill said:
I think I'm going to say overclocked E6300 or better. Otherwise you'll need a E6600 at least to see it's full potential. I agree with 2GB's or fast RAM is also essential. It's the reason I bought another 1GB.

Well ya but everyone who buys a e6300 overclocks.... Lol

Yes though 2gb of ram is the biggest thing... I gained so much even on my old Intel 915 2.8 dual core when I went to 2gb of ram in that game... Just a world difference... Obviously when I went to 4gb and got my Xeon nothing slows it down anymore... 8 players 81x81 map and 4 hours later it still goes on smooth and fast.

theonetruewill · Aug 26, 2007

niko084 said:
Well ya but everyone who buys a e6300 overclocks.... Lol

Yes though 2gb of ram is the biggest thing... I gained so much even on my old Intel 915 2.8 dual core when I went to 2gb of ram in that game... Just a world difference... Obviously when I went to 4gb and got my Xeon nothing slows it down anymore... 8 players 81x81 map and 4 hours later it still goes on smooth and fast.

You lucky little ^%£%$£! :laugh:

No seriously though, you think more than 2GB's makes a difference?

EDIT: This is quite useful.

niko084 · Aug 26, 2007

theonetruewill said:
You lucky little ^%£%$£! No seriously though, you think more than 2GB's makes a difference?

For supreme commander yes a little in REALLY big games.
But we are literally talking about 7 computer players and me in a 81x81 or larger map for hours on end.

So for 99% of players, no don't bother you wont need it.

IMO-
6300/5200x2
2gb of ram
7600/1650

And you are pretty solid for normal game play and online matches.
I said the video cards above because then you can have some slightly nicer settings and keep it a little pretty without getting 10fps.

AsGStorm · Aug 27, 2007

well i've played a few games, its pretty good. but of course its quite boring because i'm getting pwned every time i play. but hopefully it'll become more fun as i improve :/

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