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Does it work without at least single stage cooling?
Should probably upgrade my fuse box for that..
Should probably upgrade my fuse box for that..
The big jump is in indeed in the AES-XTS test which does benefit from AVX512 acceleration. The 10700K scores around 3.07GBps in the single-core test, this 11700K around 9.24GBps. There is very little difference in the multi-core AES-XTS test scores which means that the AVX512 reduces the multi-core clock quite significantly, to the point where it is hardly worth it.
That one sub-test on its own lifts the single-core score by 10 percentage points, so the final score is fairly misleading. Rocket Lake is an improvement, but not a 30% improvement.
Processor | AMD 5900x |
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Motherboard | Asus x570 Strix-E |
Cooling | Hardware Labs |
Memory | G.Skill 4000c17 2x16gb |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3090 |
Storage | Sabrent |
Display(s) | Samsung G9 |
Case | Phanteks 719 |
Audio Device(s) | Fiio K5 Pro |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000 P2 |
Mouse | Logitech G600 |
Keyboard | Corsair K95 |
Seriously, nobody believes that ST perf. gained 34% in between generation on the same 14++++++nm process.
System Name | Home |
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Processor | 5950x |
Motherboard | Asrock Taichi x370 |
Cooling | Thermalright True Spirit 140 |
Memory | Patriot 32gb DDR4 3200mhz |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Radeon RX 6700 10gb |
Storage | Too many to count |
Display(s) | U2518D+u2417h |
Case | Chieftec |
Audio Device(s) | onboard |
Power Supply | seasonic prime 1000W |
Mouse | Razer Viper |
Keyboard | Logitech |
Software | Windows 10 |
Over the many years i have owned computers i noticed they get hotter and hotter, i too don't care about power consumption but now it's just ridiculous how hot the cup's get and how big the videocards got , when i switched from a 3570k and some GTX Nvidia card i don't remember to ryzen 1800x and rx 480 i was shocked how hot the ACTUAL CASE GOT, i have an old school one all metal with optic drives bays.You must be one of these people who ask me about the gas mileage on my cars. Wild guess: I don't care.
I recently built 10850k, no OC just power limits removed, 320W+. I would have put just as beefy cooling on a Ryzen CPU if I wanted to get the best out of it. And that would be pulling well over 125W rated TDP.
P.s. The owner also didn't care about his electric bill. surprise! surprise!
System Name | MSI GP76 |
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Processor | intel i7 11800h |
Cooling | 2 laptop fans |
Memory | 32gb of 3000mhz DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | Nvidia 3070 |
Storage | x2 PNY 8tb cs2130 m.2 SSD--16tb of space |
Display(s) | 17.3" IPS 1920x1080 240Hz |
Power Supply | 280w laptop power supply |
Mouse | Logitech m705 |
Keyboard | laptop keyboard |
Software | lots of movies and Windows 10 with win 7 shell |
Benchmark Scores | Good enough for me |
I drive a tractor-trailer that gets 5-7mpg, my car is a Prius that gets 49mpg, and my boat is a sailboat that I've gotten close to 250mpg on diesel last summer.You must be one of these people who ask me about the gas mileage on my cars. Wild guess: I don't care.
I recently built 10850k, no OC just power limits removed, 320W+. I would have put just as beefy cooling on a Ryzen CPU if I wanted to get the best out of it. And that would be pulling well over 125W rated TDP.
P.s. The owner also didn't care about his electric bill. surprise! surprise!
X86 architecture is too old. They should have been done long ago and implemented more efficiently architecture but too must software ecosystem is based on it.I don't understand how apple made that chip so powerful and consume so little power, and that 8k editing from canon R5 is mindblowing, you would need threadripper and rtx 2080 ti to work with those files on PC.
Processor | Ryzen 2600 |
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Motherboard | X470 Tachi Ultimate |
Cooling | AM3+ Wraith CPU cooler |
Memory | C.R.S. |
Video Card(s) | GTX 970 |
Software | Linux Peppermint 10 |
Benchmark Scores | Never high enough |
Seriously, nobody believes that ST perf. gained 34% in between generations on the same 14++++++nm process.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X ||| Intel Core i7-3930K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ProArt B550-CREATOR ||| Asus P9X79 WS |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S ||| Be Quiet Pure Rock |
Memory | Crucial 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz ||| Corsair 8 x 8 GB 1333 MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 3GB ||| MSI GTX 680 4GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB + 1 TB ||| Intel 545s 512 GB + 256 GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" ||| Eizo EV2416W 24" |
Case | Fractal Design Define 7 XL x 2 |
Audio Device(s) | Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus PX-850 x 2 |
Mouse | Razer Abyssus |
Keyboard | CM Storm QuickFire XT |
Software | Ubuntu |
x86 is an ISA, not an architecture.X86 architecture is too old. They should have been done long ago and implemented more efficiently architecture but too must software ecosystem is based on it.
System Name | 2nd AMD puppy |
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Processor | FX-8350 vishera |
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 |
Cooling | Cooler Master Hyper TX2 |
Memory | 16 Gb DDR3:8GB Kingston HyperX Beast + 8Gb G.Skill Sniper(by courtesy of tabascosauz &TPU) |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire RX 580 Nitro+;1450/2000 Mhz |
Storage | SSD :840 pro 128 Gb;Iridium pro 240Gb ; HDD 2xWD-1Tb |
Display(s) | Benq XL2730Z 144 Hz freesync |
Case | NZXT 820 PHANTOM |
Audio Device(s) | Audigy SE with Logitech Z-5500 |
Power Supply | Riotoro Enigma G2 850W |
Mouse | Razer copperhead / Gamdias zeus (by courtesy of sneekypeet & TPU) |
Keyboard | MS Sidewinder x4 |
Software | win10 64bit ltsc |
Benchmark Scores | irrelevant for me |
Processor | R5 5600X |
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Motherboard | Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus |
Memory | 32 GB 3600 MT/s CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Vega 64 |
Storage | 2x 500 GB SSD, 2x 3 TB HDD |
Case | Phanteks P300A |
Software | Manjaro Linux, W10 if I have to |
System Name | Cyberline |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k |
Motherboard | Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4 |
Cooling | Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop |
Memory | Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX480 -> RX7800XT |
Storage | Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD |
Display(s) | Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF |
Case | antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case |
Audio Device(s) | Focusrite 2i4 (USB) |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum |
Mouse | Elecom EX-G |
Keyboard | Rapoo V700 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64bit |
Nice I didn't expect them to hit 5 GHz again. I hope AMD can beat them next gen again and we get some great competition going.
System Name | Overlord Mk MLI |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets |
Memory | 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68 |
Video Card(s) | Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS |
Storage | 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000 |
Display(s) | Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Virtuoso SE |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Max |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w |
You clearly have a poor understanding of CPU design and software ecosystems though. Apple can largely do what they're doing because they control every aspect of their systems. Their CPUs use custom designed accelerators to enable the video editing features and this require OS awareness at a different level than a more open operating system can provide.Over the many years i have owned computers i noticed they get hotter and hotter, i too don't care about power consumption but now it's just ridiculous how hot the cup's get and how big the videocards got , when i switched from a 3570k and some GTX Nvidia card i don't remember to ryzen 1800x and rx 480 i was shocked how hot the ACTUAL CASE GOT, i have an old school one all metal with optic drives bays.
This is unacceptable, requirements of 600W to 1000W power supplies and water cooling while apple makes a silicon ( apple M1 ) that consumes 5 to 20W of power, passively cooled in some laptop that can edit even 8k video files.
I am a video editor and i never thought this would be possible but i might ditch Windows for Mac if the trend is water cooling 200W cpu's and paying close to 1000$ for a video card ( this is the price for 3060ti in my country).
I don't understand how apple made that chip so powerful and consume so little power, and that 8k editing from canon R5 is mindblowing, you would need threadripper and rtx 2080 ti to work with those files on PC.
Too old? I don't think you understand the difference here. Please see above.X86 architecture is too old. They should have been done long ago and implemented more efficiently architecture but too must software ecosystem is based on it.
System Name | Office / HP Prodesk 490 G3 MT (ex-office) |
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Processor | Intel 13700 (90° limit) / Intel i7-6700 |
Motherboard | Asus TUF Gaming H770 Pro / HP 805F H170 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S / Stock |
Memory | G. Skill Trident XMP 2x16gb DDR5 6400MHz cl32 / Samsung 2x8gb 2133MHz DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3060 Ti Dual OC GDDR6X / Zotac GTX 1650 GDDR6 OC |
Storage | Samsung 2tb 980 PRO MZ / Samsung SSD 1TB 860 EVO + WD blue HDD 1TB (WD10EZEX) |
Display(s) | Eizo FlexScan EV2455 - 1920x1200 / Panasonic TX-32LS490E 32'' LED 1920x1080 |
Case | Nanoxia Deep Silence 8 Pro / HP microtower |
Audio Device(s) | On board |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime PX750 / OEM 300W bronze |
Mouse | MS cheap wired / Logitech cheap wired m90 |
Keyboard | MS cheap wired / HP cheap wired |
Software | W11 / W7 Pro ->10 Pro |
That’s right, we should check leaks like this https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-11900-i7-11700k-i7-11700-8-core-rocket-lake-desktop-cpus-leak/ , which includes CPUz, cinebench r20 and r23.Ah, yes, Geekbench. Best benchmark that there is.
System Name | Planet Espresso |
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Processor | 13700KF @ 5.5GHZ 1.285v - 235W cap |
Motherboard | MSI 690-I PRO |
Cooling | Thermalright Phantom Spirit EVO |
Memory | 48 GB DDR5 7600 MHZ CL36 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4090 FE |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850, 4TB WD SN850X |
Display(s) | Alienware 32" 4k 240hz OLED |
Case | Jonsbo Z20 |
Audio Device(s) | Yes |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | Xlite V2 |
Keyboard | 65% HE Keyboard |
Software | Windows 11 |
Benchmark Scores | They're pretty good, nothing crazy. |
Nice I didn't expect them to hit 5 GHz again. I hope AMD can beat them next gen again and we get some great competition going.
Why? Where is 21st century scientist to invent something that is really new and much better? Do we have to wait for a genius to be born and grow up and hope for his ability to realize some technological magic, a real revolution?There is still no faster generic ISA than x86
There goes AMD's brief lead in gaming.
But it was never a real lead since the Ryzen 5000 launch was a paper launch.
Processor | Intel i7 13900K |
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Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix Z690-E Gaming |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer II 360 |
Memory | 32 Gb Kingston Fury Renegade 6400 C32 |
Video Card(s) | PNY RTX 4080 XLR8 OC |
Storage | 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO + 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus + 2 TB Samsung 870 |
Display(s) | Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A + Samsung C24RG50 |
Case | Corsair 5000D Airflow |
Power Supply | EVGA G6 850W |
Mouse | Razer Basilisk |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman Elite |
Benchmark Scores | 3dMark TimeSpy - 26698 Cinebench R23 2258/40751 |
tbh the “next big thing” should be Alder Lake, not Rocket Lake.I have no doubts that the next big thing from Intel since 2015 can be this good, I just find it amusing that this could have been launched years ago, maybe instead of the 9900K.
It never happened, because Intel thought 10 nm was worth waiting for..
Also, I don't trust g**kbench either.
Let’s be honest: it almost was a paper launch with skyrocket prices for Zen 3.Aww, geez... I was gonna get this one, but then I read your post and figured it must be some space age paper mache 5950X prop.
Why? Where is 21st century scientist to invent something that is really new and much better? Do we have to wait for a genius to be born and grow up and hope for his ability to realize some technological magic, a real revolution?
System Name | RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II |
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Processor | Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H |
Motherboard | Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus |
Cooling | 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB |
Video Card(s) | Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060 |
Storage | Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme |
Display(s) | Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter |
Case | Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2 |
Audio Device(s) | Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset |
Power Supply | corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock |
Mouse | Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless |
Keyboard | Roccat Aimo 120 |
VR HMD | Oculus rift |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506 |
I would easily call the last thirty years just that with several thousand geniuses worth of talent to get here, the fact you have little respect for the complexities of arch design For mass manufacturing and compliant to stringent standard's and specifications to guarantee support for all your software ,all while evolving to newer technology is typical.Why? Where is 21st century scientist to invent something that is really new and much better? Do we have to wait for a genius to be born and grow up and hope for his ability to realize some technological magic, a real revolution?
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X ||| Intel Core i7-3930K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ProArt B550-CREATOR ||| Asus P9X79 WS |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S ||| Be Quiet Pure Rock |
Memory | Crucial 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz ||| Corsair 8 x 8 GB 1333 MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 3GB ||| MSI GTX 680 4GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB + 1 TB ||| Intel 545s 512 GB + 256 GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" ||| Eizo EV2416W 24" |
Case | Fractal Design Define 7 XL x 2 |
Audio Device(s) | Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus PX-850 x 2 |
Mouse | Razer Abyssus |
Keyboard | CM Storm QuickFire XT |
Software | Ubuntu |
Yet more benchmarks with little to no relevance for real workloads.That’s right, we should check leaks like this https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-11900-i7-11700k-i7-11700-8-core-rocket-lake-desktop-cpus-leak/ , which includes CPUz, cinebench r20 and r23.
That sounds like a solution in search of a problem, which is the way many engineers think.Why? Where is 21st century scientist to invent something that is really new and much better? Do we have to wait for a genius to be born and grow up and hope for his ability to realize some technological magic, a real revolution?
I have no issue with the possibility of increasing the decoder width or even adding more execution ports. But I question how likely it is, if Cypress Cove is basically a backport of Sunny Cove, since these kinds of changes usually require a total overhaul of the cache, register files and everything on the front-end.And before someone mentions decoder width... sure... I admit that might be a problem. But that's "might be a problem", and not "proven to be a problem" yet. POWER9 pushed 6-uops / clock tick and still lost to Skylake's 4-uops/clock tick in typical code. Apple M1 is 8-uops/clock tick, so that's what starts to bring up the decoder width issue again.
System Name | Home PC |
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Processor | Ryzen 5900X |
Motherboard | Asus Prime X370 Pro |
Cooling | Thermaltake Contac Silent 12 |
Memory | 2x8gb F4-3200C16-8GVKB - 2x16gb F4-3200C16-16GVK |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX480 GTR |
Storage | Samsung SSD Evo 120GB -WD SN580 1TB - Toshiba 2TB HDWT720 - 1TB GIGABYTE GP-GSTFS31100TNTD |
Display(s) | Cooler Master GA271 and AoC 931wx (19in, 1680x1050) |
Case | Green Magnum Evo |
Power Supply | Green 650UK Plus |
Mouse | Green GM602-RGB ( copy of Aula F810 ) |
Keyboard | Old 12 years FOCUS FK-8100 |
System Name | Boomer Master Race |
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Processor | Intel Core i5 12600H |
Motherboard | MinisForum NAB6 Lite Board |
Cooling | Mini PC Cooling |
Memory | Apacer 16GB 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Intel Iris Xe Graphics |
Storage | Kingston 512GB SSD |
Display(s) | Sony 4K Bravia X85J 43Inch TV 120Hz |
Case | MinisForum NAB6 Lite Case |
Audio Device(s) | Built In Realtek Digital Audio HD |
Power Supply | 120w External Power Brick |
Mouse | Logitech G203 Lightsync |
Keyboard | Atrix RGB Slim Keyboard |
VR HMD | ( ◔ ʖ̯ ◔ ) |
Software | Windows 11 Home 64bit |
Benchmark Scores | Don't do them anymore. |
Insecure fanboys everywhere. As if this is suprising since it’s no longer Skylake anymore.
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 9950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
I wonder how many new security flaws this generation will have.
It tops out at 8C.. even if it's a threat to Ryzen, which I doubt, AMD could just drop the prices and call it a day.