Tkpenalty's X1950~HD4k Clubhouse

[imperialreign]

meh . . . I still can't afford to buy another GPU until sometime next year - I plan on replacing this P4 with a Kentsfield, first - and hell, by the time I get around to a new GPU, maybe the 3ks will be out, or the 2900XTXs will be a little cheaper.

 

[mitsirfishi]

yes kill that p4 off she is holding you back then maybe think of another gpu if you have enough in your pocket

 

[manycheese]

heya.

im having problems with my HIS Radeon X1950 Pro ICEq3 512mb AGP.

Getting random crashes where video output stops, audio keeps going.

I have an Antec NEO HE430GB 430W Modular PSU.
with a AMD Athalon X2 2.2ghz, 2x dimms 1 GB, 3x optical drives, 1x 120gb HD

i was wondering if you guys thought that that psu would be the problem?

becuase some people have sed that its not the psu its the card...

ps. Its not overheating

 

[mitsirfishi]

drivers ?

 

[Widjaja]

heya.

im having problems with my HIS Radeon X1950 Pro ICEq3 512mb AGP.

Getting random crashes where video output stops, audio keeps going.

I don't think it's the PSU.

Haven't we heard about these cards acting wierd before?
When did the card start doing this?
What drivers are you using?
Do you know what revision of the card you have?

I latest drivers seem to be fine with these cards but not 7.8 & 7.9.
If the latest drivers don't work with you card use 7.6 drivers as they work with all X1950 AGP cards without issues.

If that doesn't work try it in someone elses rig if you can.

 

[tkpenalty]

heya.

im having problems with my HIS Radeon X1950 Pro ICEq3 512mb AGP.

Getting random crashes where video output stops, audio keeps going.

I have an Antec NEO HE430GB 430W Modular PSU.
with a AMD Athalon X2 2.2ghz, 2x dimms 1 GB, 3x optical drives, 1x 120gb HD

i was wondering if you guys thought that that psu would be the problem?

becuase some people have sed that its not the psu its the card...

ps. Its not overheating

Its the card... Check the VRM heatsink, and feel if its warm or not (the copper one under the HIS fan..) I'm suspecting that they dont use any thermal pads there. I recommend you send the card back and purchase an X1950PRO from another mfgr like Powercolor or Sapphire. These HIS cards cause so much problems for some reason, most of the support recently has only been about these cards. I wonder why, I'd love to have one of these to see how they are made.

 

[manycheese]

Its the card... Check the VRM heatsink, and feel if its warm or not (the copper one under the HIS fan..) I'm suspecting that they dont use any thermal pads there. I recommend you send the card back and purchase an X1950PRO from another mfgr like Powercolor or Sapphire. These HIS cards cause so much problems for some reason, most of the support recently has only been about these cards. I wonder why, I'd love to have one of these to see how they are made.

i looked and they do..

just found something funny on my box.

well you guys know that the rev 2. and rev 1 had different clock speeds. (HIS x1950 Pro AGp)

under a sticker saying the rev. 2 clock speeds it says the rev. 1 clock speeds...

 

[grunt_408]

I got rid of my AGP X1950 Pro coz I got sick of trying to get it to work! I have a Sapphire PCIe now it is going good. Stock cooling on the Sapphire, I just checked the temp in CCC after a workout and she is running at 44 under load. Is this good? I put a few fans into this rig hopefully she will keep nice and cool.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

yes it is good.My 7900GS doesn't even run that cool but it does have a volt-mod

 

[tkpenalty]

Wow 44*C Under load???!?!?! WTF? Thats better than my accelero. Try using scan for artifacts and check the temp there instead.

 

[Widjaja]

I'm pretty sure someone I talked to was getting those temps with a later rev Sapphire too.
But if those are the correct temp then yes they are very good and a huge improvement from the Rev 1.

 

[tkpenalty]

Idle would be 35~45*C Load would be 50~60*C, idle cant be 44*C when a VF900CU cant even do that.

 

[imperialreign]

this might be one of those "I just woke up and am still dazed and confused" questions, but . . .

I just realized that per the packaging, my 1950 PRO supports shader model 3.0

but, even with DX9c installed, every other bit of software only says 2.0 - 3m06, ATT, Everest . . .

sup with that?

 

[eidairaman1]

ok Do you have the last 2 Latest Splinter Cell Games, if you do then they are SM3.0 Only, if they play on what you have then you have SM3.0

 

[Widjaja]

this might be one of those "I just woke up and am still dazed and confused" questions, but . . .

I just realized that per the packaging, my 1950 PRO supports shader model 3.0

but, even with DX9c installed, every other bit of software only says 2.0 - 3m06, ATT, Everest . . .

sup with that?

Lol that would be a shock to the system.
I just checked my card specs with 06 and everest and they are both saying v3.0 pixel shader.

Anyway if your card passes the HDR/SM 3.0 test it definitley has shader 3.0.

My card has odd readings when it comes to the video and texture memory size in 3Dmark06.
Right now it says I have 518mb video and texture and 248mb AGP aperture size.
I'm pretty sure it said 1GB video and texture memory with cat 7.9

My mates 7600GT read faster GPU clock in 06' when he updated his to later drivers.

 

[imperialreign]

well, it defi passes the HDR tests . . .

IDK - kinda a dumb question now, y'know! Damn, my brain musta been 100% off when I got on the net this morning!

 

[grunt_408]

Idle would be 35~45*C Load would be 50~60*C, idle cant be 44*C when a VF900CU cant even do that.

Well I was playing TDU online for over an hour and when I quit the game I checke the temps straight away. How do I check it while I am gaming?
My Idle temp is 38-39 ATM

 

[Wile E]

Well I was playing TDU online for over an hour and when I quit the game I checke the temps straight away. How do I check it while I am gaming?

You don't. Have AMD Gpu Clock Tool, Riva Tuner, or ATI Tool log it for you.

 

[tkpenalty]

As I stated previously, use ATI Tool. Run "Scan for artifacts" and sit there and watch the furry cube for like 5 minutes, then you'll get your load temps PRESTO!

 

[grunt_408]

As I stated previously, use ATI Tool. Run "Scan for artifacts" and sit there and watch the furry cube for like 5 minutes, then you'll get your load temps PRESTO!

Sorry TK.. Just ran the tool and 65 is the load temp.
I think I might get an aftermarket GPU Cooler for this.
I have got 1 120mm at the rear and one at the front, plus 2 80mm sitting under the DVDburner blowing over the ram.
2 80mm fans on the side panel blowing onto the X1950.
P.S sorry for not doing my homework on the load temp I feel like a nob now.

 

[tkpenalty]

65*C is perfectly fine

 

[Widjaja]

When using ATi Tray Tools and enabling the GPU temp monitor, it will give you the minimal temp and the maximum temp after playing a game.
Games do generally raise the temp more than say scanning for artifacts in ATi Tool.
Games I know of which heat up the card are 1:Stalker 2:Need for speed Carbon 3:Bioshock 4:Oblivion.
1 being the quickest to heat up the card.

Average max load for my card is 76-81deg.

 

[tkpenalty]

When using ATi Tray Tools and enabling the GPU temp monitor, it will give you the minimal temp and the maximum temp after playing a game.
Games do generally raise the temp more than say scanning for artifacts in ATi Tool.
Games I know of which heat up the card are 1:Stalker 2:Need for speed Carbon 3:Bioshock 4:Oblivion.
1 being the quickest to heat up the card.

Average max load for my card is 76-81deg.

Mmm... i'd try applying new thermal paste then lapping it. I want to see the potential of the new cooler. Well actually the reason for it running so warm is the summer heat though.... my system is frying hot atm T_T.

 

[grunt_408]

When using ATi Tray Tools and enabling the GPU temp monitor, it will give you the minimal temp and the maximum temp after playing a game.
Games do generally raise the temp more than say scanning for artifacts in ATi Tool.
Games I know of which heat up the card are 1:Stalker 2:Need for speed Carbon 3:Bioshock 4:Oblivion.
1 being the quickest to heat up the card.

Average max load for my card is 76-81deg.

Thanks Widjaja.
I didnt think my PC would get hot with all of those fans and at the standard speeds.
Although it does sound like a turbine. (water cooling would be a lot quiter)

 

[Widjaja]

Mmm... i'd try applying new thermal paste then lapping it. I want to see the potential of the new cooler. Well actually the reason for it running so warm is the summer heat though.... my system is frying hot atm T_T.

Yeah I would but I'm not game enough to take of the GPU cooler for the card.
Haven't lapped anything yet either.
I think the coolers are just not the best on the Sapphires, actually the worst.
I'm guessing they didn't look at the cooling from an overclocking point of view.

As for the heat, yes I noticed the temps went up a little bit about a couple of months ago for everything in my system due the season.

Pretty cool temperatures in winter being 18deg in the room brrrrr!