Official AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT & RX 7700 XT Performance Figures Leaked

[ViperXZ]

They might have but these new games are 1% of the total base of all games launched for all times.
I am not going to play the newest games because someone from AMD claims that it has specific optimisations only in them.
It's ridiculous cherry picing to prove your own agenda.

No, it's a technical discussion and the IPC gains can be verified technically go and read a few more papers then. You are proving to us your typical anti-AMD agenda as you pick out the data that suits you and ignores the rest. Another waste of time this discussion.

 

[ARF]

No, it's a technical discussion and the IPC gains can be verified technically

They can't be used universally but strictly in one or two specific use cases, which renders them useless.
It's like claiming that a new CPU with AVX-512 support is 1000% faster and has 1000% higher IPC than a CPU which doesn't have that AVX-512 instruction.

You don't know what you are talking about..

 

[Vya Domus]

RDNA3 isn't better at RT. It's better at everything, RT included.

Lol what, actual nonsense, not even related to the subject at hand that sentence is just straight up nonsense.

RDNA3 is better at everything including RT but it's also not better at RT ? It's like your using anti-logic.

 

[ViperXZ]

They can't be used universally but strictly in one or two specific use cases, which renders them useless.
It's like claiming that a new CPU with AVX-512 support is 1000% faster and has 1000% higher IPC than a CPU which doesn't have that AVX-512 instruction.

You don't know what you are talking about..

Too bad that it is way more than a few games that scale well with RDNA 3. Keep showing us that you're not that well informed. I'm gonna take you on ignore, I frequently see you trolling around here, just causing problems and people wondering "what? what is this guy on about" and reactions like that. Goodbye

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

It's obvious you have a bias and a agenda Anti-AMD

I never stated I don't. I also hate nVidia and Intel. I hate every multi billion corporation because they can't call a spade a spade and always try to scam.

who can't accept simple facts and ignore all websites and data that don't support their baseless and nonsensical claims.

This is uttered by a person who did not read my data which disagreed with their point of view. Oh, irony.

 

[ViperXZ]

I never stated I don't. I also hate nVidia and Intel. I hate every multi billion corporation because they can't call a spade a spade and always try to scam.

This is uttered by a person who did not read my data which disagreed with their point of view. Oh, irony.

What a toxic opinion, if you're full of hate (about every company) it explains why you are unable to see plain information and are ignoring it.

I don't need to see your "data" while I saw data from persons that are actual experts that prove you are completely wrong, which you ignored, aside from my own findings and logic that already dismantled your "logic". The only irony here is that you can't see that I'm fed up with this discussion hence not reading your wall of texts.

Question is how many people have to disagree with you until you accept you're wrong.

 

[ARF]

RDNA 3's RT doesn't look improved. Actually it's worse:

AMD Radeon RX 7600 Review - For 1080p Gamers

Today AMD is launching their Radeon RX 7600, which is targeted at gamers with 1080p Full HD screens. Our review confirms that thanks to the new RDNA3 graphics architecture, the new card is highly energy efficient.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

RDNA3 is better at everything including RT but it's also not better at RT ? It's like your using anti-logic.

This is not anti-logic. This is RDNA3 is not better at RT and better at everything else separately.

These are the parts of a bigger cake, not the couple of different cakes.

I know that argument by analogy is not an argument but I want to make my own statement more comprehensible. Say, you got a car1 and a car2. A car2 is faster on sand. They tell you it's faster on sand but it has nothing to do with its ability to ride on sand alone, it's only because it has a stronger engine. Its wheels, tyres, and the rest of drivetrain and whatnot hasn't been optimised for sand better than those of car1. Just a better engine.

Same situation is going on with RDNA2 and RDNA3.

Question is how many people have to disagree with you until you accept you're wrong.

One who is actually able to prove it without calling me an idiot, providing me with anything which can help me with changing my mind and without arguments to authority which look so made up it's probably the case the Barbie herself is more real than your "experts."

 

[ViperXZ]

One who is actually able to prove it without calling me an idiot without providing me with anything which can help me with changing my mind and without arguments to authority which look so made up it's probably the case the Barbie itself is more real than your "experts."

Too bad I posted already multiple sources that you chose to ignore. 1) chips and cheese 2) TPU review by w1zzard. Keep deflecting. I could probably post 20 websites that will dismantle your nonsense and that you will 100% ignore as well. I know whats going on here.

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

Too bad I posted already multiple sources that you chose to ignore. 1) chips and cheese 2) TPU review by w1zzard. Keep deflecting. I could probably post 20 websites that will dismantle your nonsense and that you will 100% ignore as well. I know whats going on here.

I read them and found you are spreading misinformation. If this is equal to ignoring then sorry for misunderstanding.

 

[ARF]

Here an example:

RDNA 2 GPUs have lower performance loss, which means RDNA 3 doesn't improve the general RT performance of AMD's architectures:

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Review - Disrupting the GeForce RTX 4080

Navi 31 is here! The new $999 Radeon RX 7900 XTX in this review is AMD's new flagship card based on the wonderful chiplet technology that made the Ryzen Effect possible. In our testing we can confirm that the new RX 7900 XTX is indeed faster than the GeForce RTX 4080, but only with RT disabled.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[ViperXZ]

I read them and found you are spreading misinformation. If this is equal to ignoring then sorry for misunderstanding.

Interesting, now you resorted to trolling and lying. Well done, I will ignore you as well then. Goodbye

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Review - Disrupting the GeForce RTX 4080

Navi 31 is here! The new $999 Radeon RX 7900 XTX in this review is AMD's new flagship card based on the wonderful chiplet technology that made the Ryzen Effect possible. In our testing we can confirm that the new RX 7900 XTX is indeed faster than the GeForce RTX 4080, but only with RT disabled.

www.techpowerup.com

Quote w1zzard: "RT performance improved". Guess some people can not be convinced once they are set on their nonsensical path.

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

I will ignore you as well then.

Congratulations on a sensible choice.

 

[Denver]

Use the average graphs:

4K, +2.3%:

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1440p, 1.8%:

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1080p, 3.2%:

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AMD Radeon RX 7600 Review - For 1080p Gamers

Today AMD is launching their Radeon RX 7600, which is targeted at gamers with 1080p Full HD screens. Our review confirms that thanks to the new RDNA3 graphics architecture, the new card is highly energy efficient.

www.techpowerup.com

This is cherry picking.

Like it or not, it's reality. Newer games tend to run better on RDNA3, that in itself is more important than analyzing the average on countless games that I have(mostly) no interest in.

Yes, the architectural changes between RDNA2 and RDNA3 are not huge.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

So we have a GPU which has 24% uplift RT off and only sorry 13% uplift RT on. This, if you didn't know, is called regression.

RDNA has had higher RT increases pre-generation than Nvidia. Nvidia has currently only gained 6% pre-generation when compared to a cards with the same R.O.P's TMU's Shader count Tensors RT cores. The only difference is Nvidia is one generation ahead 6+6+6=18% AMD 8+13= 22% while starting from being slight behind at say -5 to -10% behind in RT.

you can compare RX 6600 Xt to the RX 7600 as they have the exact same of everything. The RT efficiency increase is anywhere from 3-13% & depends on the game.

 

[maxfly]

Once again, the TPU AMD Haters do their best to crap all over a potentially interesting discussion.

Any real pricing leaks in the US in regards to the 7800xt so far? Im running out of GPUs and PSUs lately. Hoping to restock with something intriguing sooner rather than later.

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

Any real pricing leaks in the US in regards to the 7800xt so far?

MSRP is 500 dollars. Real price... No more than 550 I guess.

 

[Leavenfish]

I brought my popcorn just what watch what I knew would be a $hit $show. I wasn't disappointed.

 

[abysal]

Really curious where the 7700XT will fall in the price / performance range vs the current best value 6750XT cards. 400$ - 450$? I think I'd still opt for a 6750XT if that's the case, even not knowing the actual performance numbers now.

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

Really curious where the 7700XT will fall in the price / performance range vs the current best value 6750XT cards. 400$ - 450$? I think I'd still opt for a 6750XT if that's the case, even not knowing the actual performance numbers now.

Price: about $450 minimum for a couple weeks, maybe months, then slow and steady downfall.
Performance: a tiny bit better than RX 6800, average 3% advantage with CP2077 and a couple (literally couple) other games where RDNA3 mops the floor with RDNA2.

 

[abysal]

Price: about $450 minimum for a couple weeks, maybe months, then slow and steady downfall.
Performance: a tiny bit better than RX 6800, average 3% advantage with CP2077 and a couple (literally couple) other games where RDNA3 mops the floor with RDNA2.

I guess for me I need to wait and see some valid benchmarks that has testing methods shown (hardware specs, settings). Then I can actually see the performance vs the 6750XT or other RDNA2 cards, rather then extrapolate from a leaked data set.

 

[SunWukong]

Yeah, more and more anti-AMD from trolls and haters when it comes to EVERY new release. TPU is probably going to delete this comment because "trolling".

 

[MarsM4N]

Plausible performance numbers. Price wise it also just slips in where it belongs. Don't think it's good enough to force Nvidia to drop 4070's prices. Overall pretty underwhelming, like the whole generation. Esp. when you consider that the 7800 XT is barely faster than the 6800 XT. And we all know that the 7900 XT would have been "the real" 7800 XT. Meh.

I think the most interesting numbers will be power consumption (esp. underclocked). Let's see if they made any advancements in the meanwhile or if it will get roasted by the old gen 6800 XT.

 

[Redwoodz]

This is not anti-logic. This is RDNA3 is not better at RT and better at everything else separately.

These are the parts of a bigger cake, not the couple of different cakes.

I know that argument by analogy is not an argument but I want to make my own statement more comprehensible. Say, you got a car1 and a car2. A car2 is faster on sand. They tell you it's faster on sand but it has nothing to do with its ability to ride on sand alone, it's only because it has a stronger engine. Its wheels, tyres, and the rest of drivetrain and whatnot hasn't been optimised for sand better than those of car1. Just a better engine.

Same situation is going on with RDNA2 and RDNA3.


One who is actually able to prove it without calling me an idiot, providing me with anything which can help me with changing my mind and without arguments to authority which look so made up it's probably the case the Barbie herself is more real than your "experts."

Drivers and devs actually using the available hardware, i.e. optimisations. 2 reasons all your nonsense is irrelevent.

 

[maxfly]

Plausible performance numbers. Price wise it also just slips in where it belongs. Don't think it's good enough to force Nvidia to drop 4070's prices. Overall pretty underwhelming, like the whole generation. Esp. when you consider that the 7800 XT is barely faster than the 6800 XT. And we all know that the 7900 XT would have been "the real" 7800 XT. Meh.

I think the most interesting numbers will be power consumption (esp. underclocked). Let's see if they made any advancements in the meanwhile or if it will get roasted by the old gen 6800 XT.

That's what I'm waiting and watching for. Do I continue to rely on the 6600 (obvious yes) and 6800xt for builds, or does the 7800xt replace the 6800xt? Not in a big yank one way or the other tbh. I'm completely out of PSUs and GPUs so I'll be price checking replacements over the next few weeks.