System Name | The Little One |
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Processor | i5-11320H @4.4GHZ |
Motherboard | AZW SEI |
Cooling | Fan w/heat pipes + side & rear vents |
Memory | 64GB Crucial DDR4-3200 (2x 32GB) |
Video Card(s) | Iris XE |
Storage | WD Black SN850X 4TB m.2, Seagate 2TB SSD + SN850 4TB x2 in an external enclosure |
Display(s) | 2x Samsung 43" & 2x 32" |
Case | Practically identical to a mac mini, just purrtier in slate blue, & with 3x usb ports on the front ! |
Audio Device(s) | Yamaha ATS-1060 Bluetooth Soundbar & Subwoofer |
Power Supply | 65w brick |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2 |
Keyboard | Logitech G613 mechanical wireless |
Software | Windows 10 pro 64 bit, with all the unnecessary background shitzu turned OFF ! |
Benchmark Scores | PDQ |
System Name | Main PC |
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Processor | 13700k |
Motherboard | Asrock Z690 Steel Legend D4 - Bios 13.02 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S |
Memory | 32 Gig 3200CL14 |
Video Card(s) | 4080 RTX SUPER FE 16G |
Storage | 1TB 980 PRO, 2TB SN850X, 2TB DC P4600, 1TB 860 EVO, 2x 3TB WD Red, 2x 4TB WD Red |
Display(s) | LG 27GL850 |
Case | Fractal Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | Soundblaster AE-9 |
Power Supply | Antec HCG 750 Gold |
Software | Windows 10 21H2 LTSC |
Processor | Intel i9 9900K @5GHz w/ Corsair H150i Pro CPU AiO w/Corsair HD120 RBG fan |
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Motherboard | Asus Z390 Maximus XI Code |
Cooling | 6x120mm Corsair HD120 RBG fans |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance RBG 2x8GB 3600MHz |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3080Ti STRIX OC |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB , 970 EVO 1TB, Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD, 10TB Synology DS1621+ RAID5 |
Display(s) | Corsair Xeneon 32" 32UHD144 4K |
Case | Corsair 570x RBG Tempered Glass |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard / Corsair Virtuoso XT Wireless RGB |
Power Supply | Corsair HX850w Platinum Series |
Mouse | Logitech G604s |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Rapidfire |
Software | Windows 11 x64 Professional |
Benchmark Scores | Firestrike - 23520 Heaven - 3670 |
This just further cements my purchase of a 14th gen CPU. And i was told and made fun of for not waiting for meteor lakePulling the trigger on that 13900k of mine seems like the better choice by the day.
Big improvement over 12900k (almost choose this one..), just about as any upcoming 14900k and no real performance uplift from Intel in the near future.
Shame it underclock like cr*!& and do bad with my memory config, but you can`t have it all I guess...
System Name | Dirt Sheep | Silent Sheep |
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Processor | i5-2400 | 13900K (-0.02mV offset) |
Motherboard | Asus P8H67-M LE | Gigabyte AERO Z690-G, bios F29e Intel baseline |
Cooling | Scythe Katana Type 1 | Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black |
Memory | G-skill 2*8GB DDR3 | Corsair Vengeance 4*32GB DDR5 5200Mhz C40 @4000MHz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 970GTX Mini | NV 1080TI FE (cap at 50%, 800mV) |
Storage | 2*SN850 1TB, 230S 4TB, 840EVO 128GB, WD green 2TB HDD, IronWolf 6TB, 2*HC550 18TB in RAID1 |
Display(s) | LG 21` FHD W2261VP | Lenovo 27` 4K Qreator 27 |
Case | Thermaltake V3 Black|Define 7 Solid, stock 3*14 fans+ 2*12 front&buttom+ out 1*8 (on expansion slot) |
Audio Device(s) | Beyerdynamic DT 990 (or the screen speakers when I'm too lazy) |
Power Supply | Enermax Pro82+ 525W | Corsair RM650x (2021) |
Mouse | Logitech Master 3 |
Keyboard | Roccat Isku FX |
VR HMD | Nop. |
Software | WIN 10 | WIN 11 |
Benchmark Scores | CB23 SC: i5-2400=641 | i9-13900k=2325-2281 MC: i5-2400=i9 13900k SC | i9-13900k=37240-35500 |
imo, there were a good reason to wait a year from 12th to 13th. Extra 8 e-cores and more refined process and better MT efficiency. But the way it turned out, with MTL cancellation, 14th will not see the same uplift.This just further cements my purchase of a 14th gen CPU. And i was told and made fun of for not waiting for meteor lake
From what I've heard, I think we can expect Meteor Lake to perform about as well as Alder Lake, but with much better graphics performance (which does sound like Ice Lake) and better power efficiency.Meteor Lake sounds like a rehash of Ice Lake (fortunately not the failed Cannon Lake) when they first rolled out 10nm. Don't sound like an exciting product since it is probably like a "pipe cleaning" chip. And it is not looking very promising because even as a mobile only chip, the max power draw is still very high if the 125W peak power draw is true.
i call that VALUE. You get two things for the price of one, and if you are lucky enough that it crashes and causes issues then you get to learn how to troubleshoot so potentially 3 things for the price of one.Yes, Intel gets to make people pay for its products AND then you get to beta test those products too. The company truly is an amazing triumph of capitalism.
System Name | Firelance. |
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Processor | Threadripper 3960X |
Motherboard | ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming |
Cooling | IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12 |
Memory | 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data) |
Display(s) | 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz) |
Case | Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans |
Power Supply | Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Razer Pro Type Ultra |
Software | Windows 10 Professional x64 |
"Pipe cleaning" is probably a more fair term than "test".Meteor Lake sounds like a rehash of Ice Lake (fortunately not the failed Cannon Lake) when they first rolled out 10nm. Don't sound like an exciting product since it is probably like a "pipe cleaning" chip. And it is not looking very promising because even as a mobile only chip, the max power draw is still very high if the 125W peak power draw is true.
I.e. exactly what non-desktop environments care about.From what I've heard, I think we can expect Meteor Lake to perform about as well as Alder Lake, but with much better graphics performance (which does sound like Ice Lake) and better power efficiency.
Processor | Intel i9 9900K @5GHz w/ Corsair H150i Pro CPU AiO w/Corsair HD120 RBG fan |
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Motherboard | Asus Z390 Maximus XI Code |
Cooling | 6x120mm Corsair HD120 RBG fans |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance RBG 2x8GB 3600MHz |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3080Ti STRIX OC |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB , 970 EVO 1TB, Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD, 10TB Synology DS1621+ RAID5 |
Display(s) | Corsair Xeneon 32" 32UHD144 4K |
Case | Corsair 570x RBG Tempered Glass |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard / Corsair Virtuoso XT Wireless RGB |
Power Supply | Corsair HX850w Platinum Series |
Mouse | Logitech G604s |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Rapidfire |
Software | Windows 11 x64 Professional |
Benchmark Scores | Firestrike - 23520 Heaven - 3670 |
im on 9th gen so it doesnt really matter. Huge improvement regardless for me.imo, there were a good reason to wait a year from 12th to 13th. Extra 8 e-cores and more refined process and better MT efficiency. But the way it turned out, with MTL cancellation, 14th will not see the same uplift.
System Name | ❶ Oooh (2024) ❷ Aaaah (2021) ❸ Ahemm (2017) |
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Processor | ❶ 5800X3D ❷ i7-9700K ❸ i7-7700K |
Motherboard | ❶ X570-F ❷ Z390-E ❸ Z270-E |
Cooling | ❶ ALFIII 360 ❷ X62 + X72 (GPU mod) ❸ X62 |
Memory | ❶ 32-3600/16 ❷ 32-3200/16 ❸ 16-3200/16 |
Video Card(s) | ❶ 3080 X Trio ❷ 2080TI (AIOmod) ❸ 1080TI |
Storage | ❶ NVME/SSD/HDD ❷ <SAME ❸ SSD/HDD |
Display(s) | ❶ 1440/165/IPS ❷ 1440/144/IPS ❸ 1080/144/IPS |
Case | ❶ BQ Silent 601 ❷ Cors 465X ❸ Frac Mesh C |
Audio Device(s) | ❶ HyperX C2 ❷ HyperX C2 ❸ Logi G432 |
Power Supply | ❶ HX1200 Plat ❷ RM750X ❸ EVGA 650W G2 |
Mouse | ❶ Logi G Pro ❷ Razer Bas V3 ❸ Logi G502 |
Keyboard | ❶ Logi G915 TKL ❷ Anne P2 ❸ Logi G610 |
Software | ❶ Win 11 ❷ 10 ❸ 10 |
Benchmark Scores | I have wrestled bandwidths, Tussled with voltages, Handcuffed Overclocks, Thrown Gigahertz in Jail |
System Name | Planet Espresso |
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Processor | 13700KF @ 5.5GHZ 1.285v - 235W cap |
Motherboard | MSI 690-I PRO |
Cooling | Thermalright Phantom Spirit EVO |
Memory | 48 GB DDR5 7600 MHZ CL36 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4090 FE |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850, 4TB WD SN850X |
Display(s) | Alienware 32" 4k 240hz OLED |
Case | Jonsbo Z20 |
Audio Device(s) | Yes |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | Xlite V2 |
Keyboard | 65% HE Keyboard |
Software | Windows 11 |
Benchmark Scores | They're pretty good, nothing crazy. |
Challenge accepted.So which is it...
ML crash landing on desktop
ML not crash landing on desktop
Its a tough one. Clue: Mini PCs are not small enough for shirt pockets
System Name | Dirt Sheep | Silent Sheep |
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Processor | i5-2400 | 13900K (-0.02mV offset) |
Motherboard | Asus P8H67-M LE | Gigabyte AERO Z690-G, bios F29e Intel baseline |
Cooling | Scythe Katana Type 1 | Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black |
Memory | G-skill 2*8GB DDR3 | Corsair Vengeance 4*32GB DDR5 5200Mhz C40 @4000MHz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 970GTX Mini | NV 1080TI FE (cap at 50%, 800mV) |
Storage | 2*SN850 1TB, 230S 4TB, 840EVO 128GB, WD green 2TB HDD, IronWolf 6TB, 2*HC550 18TB in RAID1 |
Display(s) | LG 21` FHD W2261VP | Lenovo 27` 4K Qreator 27 |
Case | Thermaltake V3 Black|Define 7 Solid, stock 3*14 fans+ 2*12 front&buttom+ out 1*8 (on expansion slot) |
Audio Device(s) | Beyerdynamic DT 990 (or the screen speakers when I'm too lazy) |
Power Supply | Enermax Pro82+ 525W | Corsair RM650x (2021) |
Mouse | Logitech Master 3 |
Keyboard | Roccat Isku FX |
VR HMD | Nop. |
Software | WIN 10 | WIN 11 |
Benchmark Scores | CB23 SC: i5-2400=641 | i9-13900k=2325-2281 MC: i5-2400=i9 13900k SC | i9-13900k=37240-35500 |
I upgraded from i5-2400. Imagine the deltaim on 9th gen so it doesnt really matter. Huge improvement regardless for me.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5950X |
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Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero WiFi |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 |
Memory | 32Gb G-Skill Trident Z Neo @3806MHz C14 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX2070 |
Storage | Seagate FireCuda 530 1TB |
Display(s) | Samsung G9 49" Curved Ultrawide |
Case | Cooler Master Cosmos |
Audio Device(s) | O2 USB Headphone AMP |
Power Supply | Corsair HX850i |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Cherry MX |
Software | Windows 11 |
Don't Look UpSo which is it...
ML crash landing on desktop
ML not crash landing on desktop
Its a tough one. Clue: Mini PCs are not small enough for shirt pockets
Processor | Intel i9 9900K @5GHz w/ Corsair H150i Pro CPU AiO w/Corsair HD120 RBG fan |
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Motherboard | Asus Z390 Maximus XI Code |
Cooling | 6x120mm Corsair HD120 RBG fans |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance RBG 2x8GB 3600MHz |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3080Ti STRIX OC |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB , 970 EVO 1TB, Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD, 10TB Synology DS1621+ RAID5 |
Display(s) | Corsair Xeneon 32" 32UHD144 4K |
Case | Corsair 570x RBG Tempered Glass |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard / Corsair Virtuoso XT Wireless RGB |
Power Supply | Corsair HX850w Platinum Series |
Mouse | Logitech G604s |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Rapidfire |
Software | Windows 11 x64 Professional |
Benchmark Scores | Firestrike - 23520 Heaven - 3670 |
System Name | Firelance. |
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Processor | Threadripper 3960X |
Motherboard | ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming |
Cooling | IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12 |
Memory | 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data) |
Display(s) | 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz) |
Case | Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans |
Power Supply | Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Razer Pro Type Ultra |
Software | Windows 10 Professional x64 |
Because Intel is run by incompetent buffoons.So then why is there an article saying otherwise?
Well it is coming to desktops, in NUC-like devices and all-in-ones. The person either didn't realize that those were not the desktops being asked about or didn't know. I think there's also a 3rd possibility. Broadwell was released on desktop but in very limited form. It would make sense for Intel to release the 6p+8e Meteor Lake module to desktop on the same socket as Arrow Lake. It wouldn't replace Raptor Lake Refresh but it could be a reasonably-good lower power CPU with strong integrated graphics for HTPC, small form factor, and higher-end all-in-one computers and could help bring Arrow Lake-compatible motherboards to market. Given this would use the same chips going into laptops, Intel wouldn't release such a thing until laptop orders have been fulfilled. And Intel could probably wait a while longer before even deciding whether to make it at all. But Intel was in a similar position with Tiger Lake going into Alder Lake and Tiger Lake never came to desktops.So then why is there an article saying otherwise?
System Name | Nebulon B |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock 4 |
Memory | 2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-4800 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2 |
Display(s) | Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen |
Case | Kolink Citadel Mesh black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime GX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 SE |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Those are desktops, so the answer is technically not wrong. I guess we should also re-evaluate the question and ask about DIY desktop and boxed CPUs, not just desktop in general. Typical case of journalists asking the wrong questions, and the tech company getting the blame for answering it wrong.Well it is coming to desktops, in NUC-like devices and all-in-ones. The person either didn't realize that those were not the desktops being asked about or didn't know.
Meteor Lake is probably coming in two flavors, low power laptop and high power laptop. The fact that some of these laptop CPUs will happen to be sold in devices which are technically desktops is a given and doesn't need to be asked.Those are desktops, so the answer is technically not wrong. I guess we should also re-evaluate the question and ask about DIY desktop and boxed CPUs, not just desktop in general. Typical case of journalists asking the wrong questions, and the tech company getting the blame for answering it wrong.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5950X |
---|---|
Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero WiFi |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 |
Memory | 32Gb G-Skill Trident Z Neo @3806MHz C14 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX2070 |
Storage | Seagate FireCuda 530 1TB |
Display(s) | Samsung G9 49" Curved Ultrawide |
Case | Cooler Master Cosmos |
Audio Device(s) | O2 USB Headphone AMP |
Power Supply | Corsair HX850i |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Cherry MX |
Software | Windows 11 |
System Name | Firelance. |
---|---|
Processor | Threadripper 3960X |
Motherboard | ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming |
Cooling | IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12 |
Memory | 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data) |
Display(s) | 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz) |
Case | Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans |
Power Supply | Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Razer Pro Type Ultra |
Software | Windows 10 Professional x64 |
No.Typical case of journalists asking the wrong questions, and the tech company getting the blame for answering it wrong.