NVIDIA Announces the GeForce RTX 40 SUPER Series Graphics Cards

[cvaldes]

I did not expect anything worthwhile from Nvidia. I was not disappointed.

Regardless, Nvidia will sell lots of the 40 Series SUPER cards.

Don't cry for Nvidia. They will adjust production of consumer GPUs to match demand and use the rest of the wafers for AI accelerator GPU production where they make fatter gross margins today.

And if you're an Nvidia shareholder (direct or indirect, it doesn't matter), you should be happy for your investment portfolio.

 

[Cheeseball]

I just double-checked, if the RTX 4080 Super was reduced at least $100 more to $900, then it would be priced near-proper (where a "perfect" price would be $850) due to inflation (from 2018's $700) and technological advancement. At MSRP, the RTX 4080 Super is overpriced by about $100.

 

[wolf]

My pricing prediction was just about spot on. Not a big move in the right direction, but at least it is in the right direction..

Looks like 4070Ti Super has the dumbest name but perhaps the most promise, being just under a 4080 for $800, presuming it can be bought at that price of course.

 

[cvaldes]

There weren't too many options for Nvidia pricing changes. The main options were to take up a price slot between existing models or to discontinue an older model and replace it with a better unit at the same price.

AMD does the same with their mid-generation model refreshes. They will do the same with their new cards and try to make their value proposition sharper compared to Nvidia.

 

[x4it3n]

Sure, but that's not how consumerism works.

Of course companies want you to keep spending money all the time, but it's also up to the consumers to make those companies understand when enough is enough!
Unless someone needs a GPU (for Work purposes), they can't keep buying GPUs and complaining about their prices going up if they keep contributing to the price raising...

The 4070 Super is a lot closer to the 4070 Ti spec-wise than it is to the 4070. It'll be a pretty significant performance increase for its price point, even without the extra VRAM.

The real problem is that the $600 MSRP of the 4070 is too expensive for what it is... It's not that much of an upgrade compared to the 3070 ! TPU says ~22% more performance when the 4090 is literally (at least) 66% more powerful than the 3090 and 45% more powerful than the 3090 Ti (and can even be a lot closer to 2x with RT/PT) Finally the 4070 only has 12GB VRAM which is not really future proof...

 

[Crackong]

That 999 for a 4080s surprised me for a bit.

Good for the product actually getting a more reasonable price.

Bad for every 4080 user and manufacturer got back-stabbed by Nvidia.

 

[x4it3n]

That 999 for a 4080s surprised me for a bit.

Good for the product actually getting a more reasonable price.

Bad for every 4080 user and manufacturer got back-stabbed by Nvidia.

Except the 4090 (at least compared to the 3090 & 3090 Ti), the whole RTX 40 lineup was too expensive at release (and still is imho, whether it's SUPER or not).

 

[Minus Infinity]

The original RTX 4070 should've gotten reduced to $450, because putting it in-line with the RX 7800 XT ($500) won't help it much.

Except 7800XT is averaging $550 now. Good luck finding one for $500.

 

[Cheeseball]

Except 7800XT is averaging $550 now. Good luck finding one for $500.

Not sure if you're international, but you can easily get one direct from AMD here in the US:

NewEgg (US) also has a bunch for just a little above $499 too.

 

[Crackong]

Except the 4090 (at least compared to the 3090 & 3090 Ti), the whole RTX 40 lineup was too expensive at release (and still is imho, whether it's SUPER or not).

The 4070Ti super is actually price competitive relatively to the 4090
It is half the price and slightly above half the spec.

 

[N/A]

Not even 4090 is 2.5 the 3070 Ti in 4K let alone 1440p. framegen numbers. and where is the 12HPWR in the renders. They couldn't be bothered to have it nicely rounded as the 24 pin

 

[Minus Infinity]

Not sure if you're international, but you can easily get one direct from AMD here in the US:

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NewEgg (US) also has a bunch for just a little above $499 too.

You cherry picked the very few models at $509. Of the 14 models available only 2 are cheaper on newegg: the other 12 are are $550+.

 

[bubbleawsome]

You cherry picked the very few models at $509. Of the 14 models available only 2 are cheaper on newegg: the other 12 are are $550+.

You said good luck finding one, and they found one???? That's the point?

 

[PapaTaipei]

Still using DP1.4? You'd have to be a moron to buy one of these unless you have no working GPU

?

 

[Crackong]

where is the 12HPWR in the renders. They couldn't be bothered to have it nicely rounded as the 24 pin

They've put the build in a case.
And we all know that Height of the card + 12HPWR + 35mm suggested clearance = No side panel for 99.9% of PC cases on planet Earth.

If they put the 12HPWR on the render, it will be either:
1. Protrudes out of the frame of the case so everyone notices and criticizes and possible PR problem.
or
2. Did not have the 35mm suggested clearance so everyone notices and criticizes and possible PR problem.

For lesser evil, might as well just leave it as a rendering error.

 

[wolf]

The 4070Ti super is actually price competitive relatively to the 4090
It is half the price and slightly above half the spec.

Not only that, because while I am through and through a 'specs' guy, the 4070Ti already offers 61% of the 4090's performance at 4k (even better ratio as res goes down, 68% at 1440p and 75% at 1080p), at half(ish) the price, so this will be even better and actually represent some semblance of .. dare I say it... value in Nvidia's upper midrange.

 

[Broken Processor]

I'm just not interested in reading about super cards this time they have released to late, offer little improvement and the price is still bonkers. Sad time's.

 

[Chomiq]

Still using DP1.4? You'd have to be a moron to buy one of these unless you have no working GPU

Show me a DP2.1 display please.

 

[bubbleawsome]

Show me a DP2.1 display please.

I’d be willing to bet the upcoming 5K2K 240hz OLEDs from LG will have it, and that’s the screen I’d like to use with a GPU upgrade.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Still using DP1.4? You'd have to be a moron to buy one of these unless you have no working GPU

Nothing has changed architecturally, so why would they have DP 2.x all of a sudden?

Show me a DP2.1 display please.

And this is the problem so far, no DP 2.x display controllers, which is starting to get a little bit odd. I think most of us expected something DP 2.x at CES this year, but alas...

 

[Chomiq]

I’d be willing to bet the upcoming 5K2K 240hz OLEDs from LG will have it, and that’s the screen I’d like to use with a GPU upgrade.

So late 2025 or more like Q2 2026 at the earliest?

 

[gffermari]

So late 2025 or more like Q2 2026 at the earliest?
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The resolution from these monitors is ridiculous.
We don't have gpus that can perform at 4K and above, decently and they keep pushing for 4K and 5K....Madness.

Both 4070s are the best gpus in the market now.
A 4070S is a 90% of a 4070Ti and the 4070TiS is 90% of a 4080.
There's no competition to those two.

If I hadn't bought my 4080, I would go for the 4070TiS now.

The 4080S shouldn't even exist. A 4080 Super at 12800 or a 4080Ti at 14080 cuda cores, should have been released.

 

[Assimilator]

The resolution from these monitors is ridiculous.
We don't have gpus that can perform at 4K and above, decently and they keep pushing for 4K and 5K....Madness.

Both 4070s are the best gpus in the market now.
A 4070S is a 90% of a 4070Ti and the 4070TiS is 90% of a 4080.
There's no competition to those two.

If I hadn't bought my 4080, I would go for the 4070TiS now.

The 4080S shouldn't even exist. A 4080 Super at 12800 or a 4080Ti at 14080 cuda cores, should have been released.

Gaming is not the only use-case for high-resolution displays.

 

[bubbleawsome]

So late 2025 or more like Q2 2026 at the earliest?

Your exact image shows Q4 2024.

 

[Chomiq]

Your exact image shows Q4 2024.

Oh yeah it does, still that will be Q1 or Q2 2025 for actual displays.