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Windows 10 Security Updates to Cost $61 After 2025, $427 by 2028

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If you don't do a subscription model then how many years should an operating system be supported for?
For as long as Windows 10 was advertised as the last Windows ever, the correct answer would have been was "forever". Of course their plan in 2015 (and earlier) was to somehow force all their business and individual users to start paying a subscription. But the plan was unclear and didn't work out, at least not for Windows itself (client, server, CALs).

Protocols are not "small things",
I understand you mean other new fearures here too, such as Alder Lake P+E core support. I agree we shouldn't take for granted that a 6-year old OS should support processors from 2021. CPU upgraders are doing it at their own risk and expense, and that's fine, also because they don't pay any subscription for the OS.
 
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Can anyone explain why do I need to upgrade my parents perfectly functional PC (I7-3770K, 16GB RAM) , running Win10, just because MS say so??
 
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Can anyone explain why do I need to upgrade my parents perfectly functional PC (I7-3770K, 16GB RAM) , running Win10, just because MS say so??
You only upgrade if you want. As for me, why would I upgrade? I'm still getting regular virus updates to MS Security Essentials and an occasional Malicious Software Removal Tool, whatever all that means. That's on Win 7, not even ESU-hacked.
 
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What great news; what else could stop me from keeping this old machine running.

I see new hardware in my future... (year and a half to go)
 
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Honest question: What are disadvantages of not having security updates for a home user like me?

So far all I see is not having to undergo annoying forced updates every now and then, which is obviously a good thing for me.

Ps. I have been using Win10 Home since 2015 and never install any antivirus software. Not sure if windows defender's doing an excellent job or my usage is just low-risk.
I personally discount the security alarmism... if you use common sense it'll take something like that WinXP vuln all the ransomwares were using a while back to make you truly need a software update. I don't keep anything up to date if I can help it - I have not liked a new OS since Windows 7 or Android Jelly Bean - and never have had issues... block ads and scripts, avoid untrusted sites or downloads, you're pretty much safe.
So, pirates at home? :)
LOL yes I wasn't thinking of organizations. There are a lot of people who want to pay for non-bulk LTSC licenses, but MS doesn't want their money...
 

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I love that they actually give people alternatives.

If you want to be stuborn to use a deprecated OS:
- get no updates
- pay more to get updates

In the past we had no such choice.
 
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err, so i have premium avast internet security, should i must upgrade my windows 10 into windows 11 after 2025 ?? eventhough, windows 12 its should be arrived in 2026 ??
 
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I would say Avast premium will be fine.

Thinking about patches, most of the security ones are for specific vulnerabilities, such as remote etc, and often would require a "hacker," to have pyhsical access to your PC.
Not always the case of course, but another thing is that these "security patches," have often been know about (by MS) for months before they bother to do anything about it.

I always keep my Win 10 pro updated, but honestly when reading the notes on MS site, most of them make no difference to me. I have remote, plus port 3890 blocked anyhow. Of course behind a hardware router based firewall.

My security has consisted of this for the past few years: (I won't detail GPO and/or reg edit hacks - others here are better informed by far than me about that.)

1. Malwarebytes premium realtime protection. Malwarewarebytes browser guard pro/full always on in Chrome. (The paid and far better seperate browser guard ext. blocks heaps of tracking cookies and ads, plus the occaisional malware - free can be installed from Chrome store, but auto updated to full if using Malwarebytes premium. (I started using MBAM over 15 years ago when a licence was for life - they have to honour that so no annual fee!! lucky me. Includes everything.)

2. I also keep windows defender on some of the time (MBAM is designed to work that way - a similar solution would be Emsisoft paid.). However I switch off smartscreen, don't use edge, and block the store via Group policy) Private account too.

So, I have never had a serious Malware issue with this setup.

I wonder if defender will be updated, file definitions I mean, anyone know? I assume yes for definitions, but not really sure?

Regardless it doesn't seem to do much, and I often switch the whole thing off by ticking a box in MBAM to register itself in the windows security center. Then security center switches it's self off and says something like,
you are using another security product for realtime protection, would you like to keep defender up to date for periodic scans only?
Those are NOT the exact words!

3. Finally using a third party local firewall, or blocking sfuff with the convoluted Windows firewall (especially Out traffic) selectively gives another layer of defence after the router firewall. I hate the Win firewall, and it took me ages to figure out properly what and how to block normally open stuff. I'll probably change to a third party one as every month patch Tue, some Windows firewall settings are reset, grrrrrr!!!
TBH it's not worth it.

Any recommedations for a good free, or cheapish paid standalone firewall solution? I think I need one. Totally peeved with the built in windows 10 firewall.!


So I'll wrap it up. A lot of what I wrote will be already known to members, but we get visitors too, so I wrote it such fashion. (There are more things that can be done via group policy, reg hacks etc, but there are folks here who know far better than me about that.)

In a word, I have no concerns about the end of Win 10 maintenance.

P.S. As you may have noted, I love text formatting options here, ha ha!!
 
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I built the PC in my profile specs in July 2016 using a ROG motherboard released late 2015, and don't have a TPM. "Just upgrade bro" is destroyed when that's a moderate timeframe for PC ownership, especially given that 2000-series GPUs still dominate Steam hardware surveys.

I intend to upgrade to AM5 this summer, but with the recent earthquake I wouldn't be surprised if retailers surge-price the parts out of my range for lulz.

Anyone saying Sky/Kaby Lake are perfectly functioning hardware that should have happily hummed along for a decade as people's daily driver have a valid point - especially considering how Intel stagnated and sold 4 core CPUs for far too long. Intel wasn't exactly innovating before Ryzen came along.

Shameless but relevant follow-up.

I did my intended AM5 upgrade and my specs on the left now reflect that.

I can now officially say that Windows 11 is Fine™ with a side of shrug®
 

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Can anyone explain why do I need to upgrade my parents perfectly functional PC (I7-3770K, 16GB RAM) , running Win10, just because MS say so??

Windows 11 is like a hybrid between Windows Vista (slower than 7 and 10) and Windows 8 (limited user interface and slower to use because of hidden or missing apps/settings/menus, etc.).
Windows 11 is a downgrade.

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