The official Q9300,Q9450, Q9550 thread

[trt740]

Q9300 298.00 here in stock

https://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?&scriteria=BA24657

 

[trt740]

new egg has Q9300 299.99

https://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?&scriteria=BA24657

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115040

 

[DaedalusHelios]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115040

What multi does the Q9300 have again?

 

[trog100]

What multi does the Q9300 have again?

7.5 i think.. it should be good for 3.6 gig with a half decent motherboard.. not an overclockers dream but then again its gonna run cooler than say a q6600 at the same speed and perform a little better..

trog

 

[yogurt_21]

7.5 i think.. it should be good for 3.6 gig with a half decent motherboard.. not an overclockers dream but then again its gonna run cooler than say a q6600 at the same speed and perform a little better..

trog

odds are that the q6600 will clock further and outperform it when both are on the same clocks. the q9300 only has 6mb l2 cache, the q6600 has 8mb l2
not to mention the fact that the 9300 has the same 95w tdp as the q6600, not worth it imo unless you're going for the q9450 or better.

 

[trt740]

Anyone have these chips in a board I here the X3350 is hitting 470+ +3.8ghz Fsb stable and the X3360 is hitting 4.0ghz

 

[boe]

Is there a difference between the xeon and the regular Q9550 as far as motherboard or memory compatability? I'm thinking of getting Gigabyte GA-X48T-DQ6. I can't find the Q9550 anywhere so I was thinking of getting the x3360.

Thanks

 

[trog100]

odds are that the q6600 will clock further and outperform it when both are on the same clocks. the q9300 only has 6mb l2 cache, the q6600 has 8mb l2
not to mention the fact that the 9300 has the same 95w tdp as the q6600, not worth it imo unless you're going for the q9450 or better.

toms hardware did some power usage comparing between 45nm and 65nnm quads and came to the conclusion that in spite of the thermal rating being the same one used a lot less power than the other and ran much cooler..

i think the 45nm chip clock for cock will slightly outperform the 65nm chip.. and it has to run cooler with less voltage and less leakage..

there should be some 9300 reviews around to show it.. the chip is now in the wild in reasonable numbers.. we will soon know for sure how well it goes..

i think its gonna be the only 45nm quad that is around in numbers for some time..

trog

 

[edro]

..and it has to run cooler with less voltage and less leakage..

that's true. but i think that i read somewhere that the 45nm might have more leakage problem with higher volts, that is, the 65nm can handle more volts to oc whereas the 45 can't handle it as well 'cause of the smaller electrical paths. but i don't know if this was speculation or truth.

maybe i don't know anything -- when it comes to electrical engineering i have a brown thumb. i know the smell of a 555 ic smoking just 'cause i put the power on the wrong pin. i've even seen the chip pop right through the ic casing in a plumb of smoke! sorry, i digress

i'm concerned about ocing my q9450 too much 'cause of the damage that leakage can do to shorten the life of a chip esp. one that will be run 24/7

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

9450 at Newegg for 379.00 OEM. (out of stock currently)

 

[phanbuey]

i'm concerned about ocing my q9450 too much 'cause of the damage that leakage can do to shorten the life of a chip esp. one that will be run 24/7

the damage done to the chip via current (atoms being rearranged, is what i assume youre referring to) will almost never exceed the speed at which it becomes obsolete, unless youre talking about EXTREME voltage... at <1.6V this really isnt an issue, unless you got unlucky and got a REALLy bad chip.

Think about it.... you get a $400 dollar chip today that will last you at least 1.5-2 years 24/7, at high voltage (1.55-1.6)... My overclocked E4300 is still going, with tons of leakeage at 3.3 @ 1.58V (settings since FEB 07), Idles at 47C and loads at 68-73C... its survived through one Gigabyte S3 and is now on an ASUS. Many CPU's last a REALLY long time, ive read somewhere a stock average of up to 10 years...

Anyways... in 1.5-2years your $400 chip will cost <$100 and will be completely obsolete in terms of power/performance and price/performance.. then it will be time to upgrade anyways.

People worry a bit too much when it comes to CPU's. Like people who freak when theyre CPU hits 65C during prime... "HOLY F5&%^CK 65C... oh no it will die! (in 5 years)." How many CPU's have you had die, and how many GFX cards/Ram Sticks/Mobos have you had die? you know?... maybe im wrong... but thats my take.

 

[trt740]

okay everyone is sold out on Q9000 and X3300 series, Newegg, clubit, moorger, Directron , BLT and the rest now is when the prices get stupid. I'm gonna sit this one out. Every one has Q9300 left. Let the price jacking begin.

 

[DaedalusHelios]

The only thing I have ever had break on me was a four year old Audigy LS.

 

[Mussels]

toms hardware did some power usage comparing between 45nm and 65nnm quads and came to the conclusion that in spite of the thermal rating being the same one used a lot less power than the other and ran much cooler..

i think the 45nm chip clock for cock will slightly outperform the 65nm chip.. and it has to run cooler with less voltage and less leakage..

there should be some 9300 reviews around to show it.. the chip is now in the wild in reasonable numbers.. we will soon know for sure how well it goes..

i think its gonna be the only 45nm quad that is around in numbers for some time..

trog

most 45nm chips have MORE cache than the 65's. The 9300 has LESS cache, so while it will run cooler its not going to be faster at the same clocks.

People worry a bit too much when it comes to CPU's. Like people who freak when theyre CPU hits 65C during prime... "HOLY F5&%^CK 65C... oh no it will die! (in 5 years)." How many CPU's have you had die, and how many GFX cards/Ram Sticks/Mobos have you had die? you know?... maybe im wrong... but thats my take.

both my quads go unstable at 74C, thats why i care about temps - its winter now, so if i prime away and its stable at 70C 3.8GHz, what happens if i leave the heater on...

Hardware i've had die is tons, but its never due to heat - hardware CRASHES before it dies, with the exception of hard drives (they always seem to go bad from heat, in my experience). if it crashes, i tend to cool it better/tweak things so that it no longer crashes - thus getting rid of the problem before anything dies.

 

[edro]

How many CPU's have you had die, and how many GFX cards/Ram Sticks/Mobos have you had die? you know?...

You have made several good points, all are valid in my estimation.

The only one that I don't like is the 1.5-2 year estimate. This new cpu better last me more than 2 years. But I see your point. If I got a new computer in 2 years I'd like this one to stay around for my video rendering "spin-offs". But your point is still valid. I just don't like it.


I've been computing since, uh, technically since ARPA days circa 1975 for me. But as far as PCs go I've had exactly 1 actually die on its own, that is, without the help of static shock stupidity. And I couldn't begin to count the number of PCs I've owned since then.

 

[MikeJeng]

I want a CPU that can last ONE MILLION YEARS! 24/7.


Couldn't I just keep everything at stock speeds?

 

[Thompson5439]

My Q9450 was shipped fron tankguys.com yesterday, should be here Friday.

 

[edro]

Thompson, I forgot to be checking tankguys.com . . I think they were even taking pre-orders which I attempted but they wouldn't take my CC for some odd reason. I gave up.. but should have kept trying.

My q9450 won't be shipped until 3/31 from CA so I won't be seeing anything for a while yet.
edit: I placed my order via BLT

Keep us posted on your OC benchmarks, BIOS settings, whatever else..

THanks,
Edro

 

[trt740]

Here is a great thread on overclocking a Q9450 it seems they have a much higher FSB then we thought http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=181781

 

[trt740]

My Q9450 was shipped fron tankguys.com yesterday, should be here Friday.

when you get it please post your results here.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

I wish i had enough cash to get mine. Looks like some guys might be wrong. If only I could test it since I have an x38 board.

 

[trt740]

instock X3360 http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop...10030005017_BQ33120P.shtml&order_id=343357511 retail boxed

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Yeah im not paying $600 for the Xeon version if the 9450 can be had for $3xx.

 

[trt740]

Yeah im not paying $600 for the Xeon version if the 9450 can be had for $3xx.

Thats a Q9550 not a Q9450

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

If anyone can help me find the 9450 (either OEM or retail; OEM preferred since I wont be using stock cooling anyway), I will buy it and when I get it, will throw it in my DFI x38 board and see how high she'll go.