is this a good headset?

johnnyfiive · Jun 9, 2008

I didn't say I don't believe you, lol.

Hayder_Master · Jun 10, 2008

Braveheart said:
sorry?

there is too many headset cheaper

calvary1980 · Jun 10, 2008

Creative just took 80% off the Professional Fatal1ty Headset, it's $20 Shipped, see a preview here

- Christine

Mussels · Jun 10, 2008

Jelle Mees said:
Don't take this the rong way, but you must play without friends. Becasue everyone knows that USB Mic's suck big time! On teamspeak and Ventrillo you can defenitly hear the difference between a headset microphone and a crappy USB Mic.

Really, don't listen to batmang. Unless you want to be known as the guy with crappy audio...

i am 100% with batmang. you must have friends with cheapass mics. I and all the others i know who use voip have moved over to logitech USB mics due to the clarity of it, and removal of reliance on the soundcard - far too many users have useless soundcards that make the volume too loud or too quiet, whereas USB mics dont have that problem.

I pair sennheiser 555's with a logitech USB headset designed for a PS2, i should do a recording and upload it here.

i think i started talking before it was recorded... now i dare anyone to tell me, this ISNT clear and perfect.
http://www.furk.net/USB_ftw.wma.html

P.S. dont pick on my accent

JRMBelgium · Jun 10, 2008

Mussels said:
i think i started talking before it was recorded... now i dare anyone to tell me, this ISNT clear and perfect.
http://www.furk.net/USB_ftw.wma.html

And you recorded this from the normal distance? Because it sounds to me that you leaned forward, closer to the microphone. It sounds like it's very close to your mouth.
What you recorded really sounds great, but I doubt that it's recoreded form the distance you normally have while gaming, unless you lean forward every time you say something...

MKmods · Jun 10, 2008

it sounds very nice to me. Thanks Mussels for the demo.

I have the Medusas also and love them, what I dont love is all the probs I have with all my onboard/sound cards and mics.
(lol, come to the USA and there will be a line of girls around the block waiting for you to talk to them)

Mussels · Jun 10, 2008

Jelle Mees said:
And you recorded this from the normal distance? Because it sounds to me that you leaned forward, closer to the microphone. It sounds like it's very close to your mouth.
What you recorded really sounds great, but I doubt that it's recoreded form the distance you normally have while gaming, unless you lean forward every time you say something...

ummm its a headset. its attached to my head. if i lean, the mic leans with me.

JRMBelgium · Jun 10, 2008

Mussels said:
ummm its a headset. its attached to my head. if i lean, the mic leans with me.

Oh my God. The discussion here is that USB mics can or can't be as good as headset microphones. Then you record a demo with an USB mic, attached to your head. That's not how you normally use USB microphones

Isn't it better to buy a decent headset then, instead of attaching an USB mic to your headset, doesn't it look a little...you know...

Mussels · Jun 10, 2008

Jelle Mees said:
Oh my God. The discussion here is that USB mics can or can't be as good as headset microphones. Then you record a demo with an USB mic, attached to your head. That's not how you normally use USB microphones

Isn't it better to buy a decent headset then, instead of attaching an USB mic to your headset, doesn't it look a little...you know...

no. its a usb mic with a single earpiece. i can easily sit it on the desk and use it that way as well. I'm bringint this up in relation to your comment that USB mics suck.

you're thinking... what? that i'm attaching a desktop mic to my head? its designed for it.

JRMBelgium · Jun 10, 2008

I am not saying that USB mics suck, the distance between your mouth and the microphone is the reason why the quality is less good. My brother has a 5$ USB-mic and the quality is very good if you hold it up close to your mouth, he also attached it to his headset with ducktape lol.

Luke · Jun 10, 2008

@ Jelle
from what i read here you are comparing a usb desktop mic with a normal headset mic well what's the point in that. so you are saying that a HEADSET mic is better then a DESKTOP mic what dose it matter of course the headset mic is going to be better then the desktop mic

i was just using teamspeak with mussels and his usb mic is great better then most of my normal mic's (mussels head set mic is just your mic if what you where saying is correct)

Mussels · Jun 10, 2008

Jelle Mees said:
I am not saying that USB mics suck, the distance between your mouth and the microphone is the reason why the quality is less good.

Why? theres no logic to that whatsoever. you're bagging out USB mics because... they're further away? Seriously did you read that before clicking post? USB or not, if you get a desktop mic you'll put it in the same spot as a regular one, and if you get a USB headset you'll put it on your head like a normal headset. there is NO difference, or reason to have a difference, between USB and not.

Jelle Mees said:
My brother has a 5$ USB-mic and the quality is very good if you hold it up close to your mouth, he also attached it to his headset with ducktape lol.

Well it works for him.

mine doesnt need tape

(mine is very slightly different in shape, but 95% the same. mine is actually thinner, and lighter than that model.)

JRMBelgium · Jun 10, 2008

You're all missing my point. I don't see the point of recomending headphones + microphone when there are high-quality headsets available. I do see the point when you already own good headphones, but for someone who doesn't have decent headphones, why not buy a decent headset?

Mussels · Jun 10, 2008

Jelle Mees said:
You're all missing my point. I don't see the point of recomending headphones + microphone when there are high-quality headsets available. I do see the point when you already own good headphones, but for someone who doesn't have decent headphones, why not buy a decent headset?

find me a headset that even remotely matches the quality of my sennheiser and logitech combo.

King Wookie · Jun 10, 2008

LOL. This has been rather fun to read. :roll:

As a professional sound engineer, I work with various mics. Even some of the professional headsets designed for broadcasting can sound crap. The preferred mic for sports commentary in most of the world is a 40 year old design. Go figure.

If you find a solution that works for you, go for it. The point is, you need to be able to understand what the other guy is saying. I'm currently looking at the version of the senni HD280's that come with an onboard mic. Might need to change my soundcard though.

So, I stand back and watch with interest.

P.S. thanks for the tip on the logitech usbs. Must give it a try. :toast:

JRMBelgium · Jun 10, 2008

Mussels said:
find me a headset that even remotely matches the quality of my sennheiser and logitech combo.

Speedlink Medusa 5.1 Home Edition

And before you start searching on google, let me help you, couple quotes from reviews:

Up next, testing the microphone for levels and also assessing clarity for people listening to me. The sound quality of the microphone was extremely good in all Voice-Over-IP applications and many of the people that I conversed with actually commented on how clear I sounded (compared to before when I used the Creative desktop microphone). One of the biggest differences is that the headset mic picked up my speech and very little background noise, whereas the Creative desktop mic picked up everything in the room including my main computer cooled by 11 fans! The 4 metre cable length quickly proved itself to be very useful during conversations as I could easily get to just about anywhere in my room to find something and not have to take the headset off.

The microphone produced clear sound during my Ventrilo testing & the surround reproduction was spatially accurate.

The mic boom is surprisingly well behaved - you can bend the boom however you want and the mic will stay where you put it. The audio quality of the microphone is also very good – I can hear myself when no games are running (there's no mute button) and my voice comes through crystal clear. I've also talked to people over Skype and in online games and everyone's said I sound good.

And let me post this soundsample once again ( podcast ):
http://www.faclanhosting.be/podcastcut.mp3

Mussels · Jun 10, 2008

walking around the room: USB and normal mics can be extended easily.

Fan noise: yes its called the sensitivity down in teamspeak, or the overall volume.
i have a $5 headset which people claim has a great mic - i should post a recording with that next.

yeah now... audio quality? forget the mic, how do the headphones compare. a headset is two parts.

(P.S yes this thread is going off topic. its educational. i also think that his arguments are very flawed, and i'm pointing out his flawed logic.)

Luke · Jun 10, 2008

This logic makes no sence at all and you keep changing topic didn't you say that usb mics are shit now you are going on about how usb desktop mics are shit now
get your story straight

Jelle Mees said:
I recommend the Speedlink Medusa 5.1 Home Edition. I have this one, and beleave me, it's worth the extra cash.

how much extra cash

Jelle Mees said:
Don't take this the rong way, but you must play without friends. Becasue everyone knows that USB Mic's suck big time! On teamspeak and Ventrillo you can defenitly hear the difference between a headset microphone and a crappy USB Mic.

Really, don't listen to batmang. Unless you want to be known as the guy with crappy audio...

what you are going on about how desktop mics are shit now not usb

Jelle Mees said:
Look, you can have a 200$ USB mic. The soundquality can never compete with a decent headset microphone. The biggest difference is the bass in voices.

I record a podcast every week with my Speedlink Medusa 5.1 Home Edition and I can honestly say that it sounds like it's recorded in a professional studio. I've cut a piece out of the latest podcast episode:
http://www.faclanhosting.be/podcastcut.mp3

well from what i heard mussels recording sounds better

Jelle Mees said:
Oh my God. The discussion here is that USB mics can or can't be as good as headset microphones. Then you record a demo with an USB mic, attached to your head. That's not how you normally use USB microphones

Isn't it better to buy a decent headset then, instead of attaching an USB mic to your headset, doesn't it look a little...you know...

so you where trying to compare a headset mic with a desktop mic

and using a headset on your head is normal how you use it

Jelle Mees said:
I am not saying that USB mics suck, the distance between your mouth and the microphone is the reason why the quality is less good. My brother has a 5$ USB-mic and the quality is very good if you hold it up close to your mouth, he also attached it to his headset with ducktape lol.

well that's what you have been going on about for ages now

and having a headset isn't the same as duct taping USB mic to your head

Jelle Mees said:
You're all missing my point. I don't see the point of recomending headphones + microphone when there are high-quality headsets available. I do see the point when you already own good headphones, but for someone who doesn't have decent headphones, why not buy a decent headset?

because the headphones on those are crap compared to sennheisers

johnnyfiive · Jun 10, 2008

This has become the dumbest thread I've read on TPU. Now on to the topic, I will go ahead and make a recording tonight just so the OP can check it out and decide what he/she thinks. And to Jelle, I don't normally " call anyone out ", but you are becoming a person I wish would get banned from this site. Medusa's are NOT superior, so stop saying they are. Its a FACT. Look at all the professional gamers, the majority use Sennheiser's or SteelSound's/IceMat's (if they are sponsored by them like the SK Gaming team).

There is plenty of reasons to go with a separate headphone and mic combo.
1.) Mic's break, all the time. Especially cheap headset ones. To fix that, you have to buy a new headset. Now your out another $50-$90 depending on the brand.
2.) Earpads are not replaceable on most headsets. If you buy a high quality pair, they are replaceable. Like they are on Sennheisers.

3.) Quality. Most headsets lack HIGH quality.
4.) The cans. If your gonna pay $100 for a SteelSound headset, it better have good quality cans. It better have good sound in ALL area's. Music, gaming, movies, general use, etc. From what I've read, most gaming headset's only have good sound in GAMES. A high quality headphone will give you high quality sound in every area.
5.) Comfort. They better be comfortable when you wear them hours on end.
6.) Warranty/service might not be as good as a well known brand.

Like I've said before, it really comes down to preference. If all your gonna do is game and thats all you care about, any headset will suffice. Not everyone is an audiophile and will care about quality. Most gamers just want a good headset with a clear mic. But if you ask any professional/serious gamer, they will tell you about the facts.

Jelle, I've gamed with my team (FiTH) in many competitions. None of them were LAN events, all of them online. GGL, CAL League, Americup, and many others. All of them we used voice comm. through Ventrilio. To assume that I don't play games with people was a blind statement. You might as well be a deaf bat. To say Medusa's are superior is pretty dumb. They are no better then any other $60-$80 headset. They are no different then Tritton's headsets, they are made by the SAME COMPANY, just renamed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826235002
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16826235003

They seem OK... but not worth what they cost if you ask me.

To the OP, if you were to ask me directly, " What headset would you recommend for gaming? " heres what I would suggest:

For an analog setup:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106157

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826158051

For a USB setup:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106164

Now, if you asked me " What would you recommend for a good quality set for general use and gaming? "

I would say these cans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106020 or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106324
paired with this mic: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836111601

Now, I'm no big time audiophile or a professional gamer. These are just my suggestions, my opinion. I'm not gonna bash you and say how inferior your choice is.

Luke, you should be Vice Pres.

intel igent · Jun 10, 2008

i like my sony MDR-V500's :eek:

i don't use a mic :eek:

-Skream- · Jun 10, 2008

Get an Creative HS 900 Headset With Noise Cancelling Microphone - gold plated 3.5mm Jack - it's underrated but very good sound quality and mic is clear plus it's not costly.

Plus gaming centers /Lans like Omega sektor in uk every OS is rigged with it

Braveheart · Jun 10, 2008

HEY GUYS, can you guys please stop? it's just a headset....no need to get mad over.

and also, my motherboard will not produce sound with a USB audio device of any kind, so a USB headset is out of the question for me.

another thing: i am 15 year old homeschooler and i have a LOT on my desk...i cant have a separate mic and headphone with the wires everywhere.

Mussels · Jun 10, 2008

Braveheart said:
and also, my motherboard will not produce sound with a USB audio device of any kind, so a USB headset is out of the question for me.

If your USB ports work, a USB soundcard will - its probably a missed setting somewhere in windows. PM me if you want some assistance with that.

Snake05 · Jun 10, 2008

calvary1980 said:
Creative just took 80% off the Professional Fatal1ty Headset, it's $20 Shipped, see a preview here

- Christine

For the money, that is really hard to beat. I paid 40 for it a few months ago because it was on sale (from $80), and this is cut in half again. Sound and voice quality is great. For $20 you could buy a crappy cheap headset, or one that is actually very good. I'll give my vote to the creative, outstanding price/performance ratio, and awesome for gaming.

thoughtdisorder · Jun 10, 2008

Snake05 said:
For the money, that is really hard to beat. I paid 40 for it a few months ago because it was on sale (from $80), and this is cut in half again. Sound and voice quality is great. For $20 you could buy a crappy cheap headset, or one that is actually very good. I'll give my vote to the creative, outstanding price/performance ratio, and awesome for gaming.

+1. I have to agree with Snake on this. Sounds like Braveheart needs something that works well for a decent price. All of the other headsets are definitely nice, but for Bravehearts needs as detailed above, you can't beat the $20 price tag.....(My 2 cents)

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