AMD Shanghai Rushed in, Hits Market in Q4 2008

[btarunr]

AMD seems to have decided that it won't face any more flack in the computing industry owing to the lack of success the Barcelona / Agena (K10) architecture had compared to a determined Intel that seems to be going for the kill with a string of products lined up, Intel in fact has looked forward four years in time based on its IDF slides. On the eve of IDF, AMD executives said the company's 45-nanometer Shanghai processor will enter the market by the fourth quarter of 2008. The AMD processor is designed to compete against the Intel Nehalem processor, especially in the volume two-socket server market.

AMD Shanghai is touted to be the server/enterprise version of the upcoming Deneb series 45nm quad-core processors. Unlike the Deneb that retains the 940-pin AM2/AM2+/possible AM3 socket, Shanghai would use the enterprise segment Socket 1207, there already are server boards with four sockets in the market, AMD plans to use this as something to flash before Intel, as for server applications, cost-effective Shanghai parts used in four-CPU configurations should provide high levels of computational power.

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[[I.R.A]_FBi]

stand and deliver amd or sit and shut up

 

[farlex85]

Go on......... I want some details, they just keep saying stuff like this w/o giving us any architectural features to discuss.

 

[btarunr]

stand and deliver amd or sit and shut up

*cough*R700*cough*

 

[MilkyWay]

at least ATi is doing well, i want to get AMD cpus plus i havnt used intel since that p3 celeron my bro had

intel has been going since the 70s making cpus AMD only really started in the 90 late 80s before that it used to manufacture intel cpus

 

[TheMailMan78]

Ah yes AMD is attempting a Blitzkrieg. It worked before and now coming off the 4xxx series successes they finally grew some balls! Lock and Load AMD!

 

[ghost101]

amd shanghai vs intel nehalem

 

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

*cough*R700*cough*

I still speak to ATi differently from AMD, im all for ATi, AMD, im not so sure ...

 

[farlex85]

I still speak to ATi differently from AMD, im all for ATi, AMD, im not so sure ...

What do you mean, you'd rather intel be unfettered in their quest for world domination with our money?

 

[btarunr]

I still speak to ATi differently from AMD, im all for ATi, AMD, im not so sure ...

ATi is not the name of a company anymore, it's the name of a product line....from AMD.

 

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

What do you mean, you'd rather intel be unfettered in their quest for world domination with our moeny?

I didnt even say that, why so touchy, im just saying the rounds of fale on the cpu front is getting kinda boring, i actually want them to stand and deliver.

 

[suraswami]

finally some bas...d in the AMD camp is waking up. Go AMD go. Kill that I monster.

 

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

ATi is not the name of a company anymore, it's the name of a product line....from AMD.

I still speak to it anyway

 

[farlex85]

I didnt even say that, why so touchy, im just saying the rounds of fale on the cpu front is getting kinda boring, i actually want them to stand and deliver.

Not touchy just thought your comment odd. Didn't mean to be offensive, just joking around. Anyway, yeah, I want them to as well, that's why I want to see what all these architecture improvements they keep talking about are.

 

[WarEagleAU]

Im kind of in shock at this announcement. These are the 45nm Deneb type parts with a rectangular socket?

 

[btarunr]

I made a major edit. My apologies for the mix up. Bulldozer is not out anytime soon. Thank you ghost101 for the hint. I looked up charts (http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=1025) they looked not much different from K10, did some reading, Shanghai = Deneb (server).

 

[ChaoticBlankness]

the only way shanghai is going to beat nehalem by having a way faster clock speed. i.e. P4 vs Athlon XP.

 

[ShadowFold]

Even if i7 is better than what AMD puts out I'm still gonna buy AMD if its better than my Core2. I really shot my self in the foot when I went Intel, I look at that BIOSTAR AMD770 chipset board all the time thinking about the tri core I was waiting on for the price to drop..

 

[suraswami]

I made a major edit. My apologies for the mix up. Bulldozer is not out anytime soon. Thank you ghost101 for the hint. I looked up charts (http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=1025) they looked not much different from K10, did some reading, Shanghai = Deneb (server).

so its still the same crap with a different 'skirt'?

 

[btarunr]

so its still the same crap with a different 'skirt'?

If you call a 2.30 GHz quad core that peaks at 55W (or OC's to 3.60 GHz with an estimated 95W) crap then yes. Server builders will look more at the point that you have Shanghai, and then you already have quad-socket 1207 boards. (example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813151089) NVIDIA made its chipset for ages now.

 

[suraswami]

If you call a 2.30 GHz quad core that peaks at 55W (or OC's to 3.60 GHz with an estimated 95W) crap then yes.

55w is amazing, if a sensible guy at the IT department orders he would understand the value. I don't care about OCing for now. But is the 2.3 (whatever model it is) comparable to Intel counterpart (don't know how many watts they consume) clock for clock?

 

[btarunr]

Intel might no have quad-socket platforms out in Q4 just as the CPUs roll out. Meanwhile 4 socket boards that bring down the thermal envelope (compared to two 2 CPU racks of Intel). Intel has already had ~50W LGA 771 quads for a while now.

 

[Damian^]

I miss the days when people were "AMD for gaming" "Intel for everything else"

 

[farlex85]

I miss the days when people were "AMD for gaming" "Intel for everything else"

Some people still say that. Someone told me that at bb the other day.

 

[Damian^]

Some people still say that. Someone told me that at bb the other day.

lol fanboys