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Aleksander May 4, 2010 04:49 PM

My rig is a beast in x64
 
Hi there!
I have formatted my rig too many times before and come to a conclusion that the computer is much more powerful in x64 or 64-bit mode than 32-bit or x86 mode. Someone knows why my rig is such a beast??? I mean call of duty 4 all ultra high, 1280x1024, anti aliasing to max is above 30 fps. Not to mention the dragon age origins, which in 32-bit, is not that enjoyable. After jumping to x64, all ultra high pls!!! It is running like insane in low settings, like 100 fps.
I hope this helps!!!
Thanks!

exow2 May 4, 2010 04:52 PM

32 bit doesn't support 4GB of ram, and 64bit is better for gaming so both those things could have an affect.

Aleksander May 4, 2010 04:54 PM

Basically for my old rig, which has 1GB ram, 256mb vram, is not that good to tell you the truth. It does not have an effect on this jump. It looks as i have a 4850 or smth like that in 32-bit :P

DrPepper May 4, 2010 04:55 PM

I don't see why it would make a difference since those apps are 32bit anyway.

Aleksander May 4, 2010 04:56 PM

That is the big question! The answer is: it has a big big effect.

Black Panther May 4, 2010 04:58 PM

I don't think I understand... Are you talking about the rig in your system specs?
:confused:

DrPepper May 4, 2010 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksander Dishnica (Post 1880597)
That is the big question! The answer is: it has a big big effect.

Well it's not really a question it doesn't really make sense. Since x64 windows runs x86 natively then the program isn't really any differant. If anything I'd say maybe something to do with the CPU ? I didn't even think a 754 sempron would have x64 bit instructions.

Aleksander May 4, 2010 05:31 PM

For the cpu, it says clearly 64-bit ready. It is my rig in my system specs which is the beast i am talking about in 64-bit mode. Even if it is the cpu, i dont really think it has to do only with it.

Fourstaff May 4, 2010 05:52 PM

Hard to believe. Proof?

Aleksander May 4, 2010 07:11 PM

Normally now i cannot proof it. I can make a video and publish it in youtube, but it will require a lot of time. :/

Fourstaff May 4, 2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksander Dishnica (Post 1880726)
Normally now i cannot proof it. I can make a video and publish it in youtube, but it will require a lot of time. :/

Take your time, because if you can prove it, then I will have to start telling people that they are spending way too much for gaming. :toast:

DrPepper May 4, 2010 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksander Dishnica (Post 1880638)
For the cpu, it says clearly 64-bit ready. It is my rig in my system specs which is the beast i am talking about in 64-bit mode. Even if it is the cpu, i dont really think it has to do only with it.

I didn't say it wasn't x64 I said I didn't they they were. I had a 2800 and it wasn't x64 capable but it appears there are batches that are x64 capabe these are:
SDA3000AIO2BX
SDA3000AIO2CV

Anyway there is no reason why a 7600GS would perform better in x64 than x32 unless you've been installing out of date drivers.

mosheen May 4, 2010 07:22 PM

Just maybe better hardware drivers compared to 32bit. (motherboard???)

FordGT90Concept May 4, 2010 07:27 PM

Sempron...
7600 GS...
1 GiB RAM single channel...

I'm going to go with confirmation bias on that one. Your computer should run slower on x64 because it requires more RAM which you are lacking. There no reason, what-so-ever, to see any kind of performance improvement in games.


The only way it could be possible, I think, is if you went from Vista x86 to Windows 7 x64. Windows 7 has a smaller memory footprint than Vista which would make a big difference in your situation.

CJCerny May 4, 2010 07:34 PM

There have been a number of articles written on performance differences between 32bit and 64bit OS. They all show little or no performance improvements. Probably something else going on if your system is that much faster.

Aleksander May 4, 2010 07:36 PM

I had windows 7 x86 installed, now i have windows xp x64 :P
The games are much more, i dont know how to say... easy to get them ultra high???
Anyone knows any video converter??? I have just made videos, but with 300 mb each!!!
What i hate more is that i dont have the call of duty 4 anymore :(. I never used the antialiasing in 2x mode, but after jump i always got it to max, which i dont know how that easy.
I must mention that some games have creeper graphics in windows xp 64 rather than windows 7 ultimate 32.

CounterZeus May 4, 2010 07:39 PM

win xp uses much less resources than Win7.. You lack RAM for gaming on Vista/Win7

NdMk2o1o May 4, 2010 07:39 PM

Windows xp uses about 256mb ram at the desktop, win7 uses 768+ theres your answer :rolleyes:

Also uses less cpu pagefile nd other resources etc, I would recommend you stay with Win xp, tho I would get 32bit, xp x64 driver support is horrible and 32bit will perform as good/better than x64 :)

u2konline May 4, 2010 07:41 PM

I am using 64bit for both my rigs and i also have notice games run much better, so yea it does help :) As for 32bit systems not supporting 4GB, this is not true, there is a vista disc floating around online that enables 4GB into 32bit, with some hacking i would think.

Aleksander May 4, 2010 07:41 PM

@counterzeus
@NdMk2o1o
No way, both wrong. I have tried the call of duty with both windows xp 32-bit and xp 64-bit. I dunno how it plaies in windows 7, cuz i have more than a year since i had it installed, but that was the first game i come upon as ultra high settings were not enough for my rig in x64, were ultra low were nearly enough for x32.
It is the x64 era!!! Finally :P

epicfail May 4, 2010 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o (Post 1880759)
Windows xp uses about 256mb ram at the desktop, win7 uses 768+ theres your answer :rolleyes:

Quote:

I must mention that some games have creeper graphics in windows xp 64 rather than windows 7 ultimate 32.

hes saying the opposite that w7 is runniing the games better, not the other way around.

between xp and w7 im thinking he might have had something installed that screwed up his perfomance, but i have no idea why 32 would work better than 64 on that system.

FordGT90Concept May 4, 2010 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksander Dishnica (Post 1880753)
I had windows 7 x86 installed, now i have windows xp x64 :P
The games are much more, i dont know how to say... easy to get them ultra high???

As others have stated, XP x64 can do more with less RAM. I went from XP x64 to 7 x64 with virtually no performance changes (except in networking) but I had 6 GiB of RAM then and now.

You need more RAM, plain and simple.

NdMk2o1o May 4, 2010 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksander Dishnica (Post 1880764)
No way, both wrong. I have tried the call of duty with both windows xp 32-bit and xp 64-bit. I dunno how it plaies in windows 7, cuz i have more than a year since i had it installed, but that was the first game i come upon as ultra high settings were not enough for my rig in x64, were ultra low were nearly enough for x32.

So are you saying it plays better in xp x64 than xp 32bit?

Aleksander May 4, 2010 07:45 PM

It playes better in x64, MUCH BETTER. As i have 2 rigs in SLI or CrossFireX :)
The game runs creeper graphics, but performance smoother in x64.

NdMk2o1o May 4, 2010 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksander Dishnica (Post 1880764)
@counterzeus
@NdMk2o1o
No way, both wrong. I have tried the call of duty with both windows xp 32-bit and xp 64-bit. I dunno how it plaies in windows 7, cuz i have more than a year since i had it installed, but that was the first game i come upon as ultra high settings were not enough for my rig in x64, were ultra low were nearly enough for x32.
It is the x64 era!!! Finally :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by epicfail (Post 1880765)
hes saying the opposite that w7 is runniing the games better, not the other way around.

between xp and w7 im thinking he might have had something installed that screwed up his perfomance, but i have no idea why 32 would work better than 64 on that system.

Erm no he isn't?

Tho I have had enough of this thread, enjoy your ultra high gaming experience :)


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