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JSampson May 13, 2010 06:51 AM

Need Help. New System. AMD X6 1055T, Crosshair IV
 
Hey guys,
I use to really be in to building computers when I was a teenager. I have done about a weeks worth of research. Its alot since I just lost my job and all I have to do is research. My computer crashed and I have been using a friends, but its POS and I just want to get it out of my house. I need a computer so I can find a new job. I need my Microsoft Office to edit my resume.

His is almost comparable to what I have minus the fact that his graphics card is horrible, 500mbs of ram, and onboard audio, Windows 2000. I cant put Microsoft Office 2003 on here since his is Windows 2000. I tried. His PC sucks

My old Setup:
MSI KT333 Board
AMD Athlon @ 1.1ghz I believe
1.5 ghz of DDR333
Geforce 2 GTX (32 mb)
Soundblaster Live

I currently have 25mb down / 25mb up Verizon FIOS. Im obviously not utilizing it well.

I have not gamed in a long time, but I got out of it a long time ago because my computer was outdated by new games that were coming out. Im sure Ill get back into it, but my primary uses will be for the following:

Photoshop
Excel
Web Browsing
Downloading Music
Gaming (Im not into any of the World of Warcraft games. Im into racing, first person shooter etc...)

Anyway, this is what I have compiled for my new system. I am on a budget. I have already exceeded that. Credit cards do help.

CPU: AMD X6 1055T ($190)

MOBO: Asus Crosshair IV 890FX w/ Xfire technology & SATA III($225)

GFXCard: XFS HD 5830 ($215)

Memory: 4 GB of G. Skill DDR 1600 ($109.99)

HD: Western Digital SATA 6Gb/sec 1TB Caviar Black ($104.99) Is SATA III worth it on this board?

CPU Cooler: GELID Solutions Tranquillo CC-TranQ-01-A 120mm Hydro Dynamic CPU Cooler ($39.99) This was suggested on another thread

Case: I really really want the Thermaltake Spedo VI90001W2Z. ($179.99) I just cant spend that much on a case, especially if it doesnt come with a power supply
NZXT Apollo. Had good reviews.

Power Supply: Help? Im thinking I need atleast a 550-600 watt?

Thanks guys!

Fourstaff May 13, 2010 10:01 AM

Drop your graphics card to 5770, the 5830 is not worth it. Also, get a coolermaster hyper 212 plus for cooling, its cheaper and works well. Get a quality 550w power supply (that's all you need, even if you go for 5850). Get corsair if possible for psu, don't go cheap on psu. Also, look at cheap cases such at the Antec 300.

Hellfire May 13, 2010 10:11 AM

What Fourstaff said but I'd get a smaller HDD for OS and a larger one for storage, the Ram, how much ram are you getting for that price?

1nf3rn0x May 13, 2010 10:27 AM

New Budget Gaming Rig for a friend.
 
Sorry:S Musta not pressed new thread:S

brandonwh64 May 13, 2010 11:09 AM

Yea like some others said, the 5830 is junk! get a reference 5850 and be done with it

Fourstaff May 13, 2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64 (Post 1891088)
Yea like some others said, the 5830 is junk! get a reference 5850 and be done with it

OP is not working now, so I would refrain suggesting expensive toys.

brandonwh64 May 13, 2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourstaff (Post 1891184)
OP is not working now, so I would refrain suggesting expensive toys.

Its better to get it now then regret it later.

assaulter_99 May 13, 2010 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64 (Post 1891088)
Yea like some others said, the 5830 is junk! get a reference 5850 and be done with it

Hm if the 5830 is junk, so the 5770 fares worst! lol. Anyways, it aint such a bad card, its just the pricing that kills it off. :toast:

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64 (Post 1891189)
Its better to get it now then regret it later.

Thats better! lol. Yeah if you can dish some more cash in it man, just get it, its so much worth it. I just said earlier in another thread, the 5770 is a great card, but when real dx11 games come around, don't expect it to rape em". Try to save some cash on other hardware, like brandon said, you won't regret it. The gpu is a hardware you really dont want to neglect.

Black Haru May 13, 2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellfire (Post 1891071)
What Fourstaff said but I'd get a smaller HDD for OS and a larger one for storage, the Ram, how much ram are you getting for that price?

if it's the RAM I'm thinking of (off newegg) it's 4 gigs

and yes, two hard drives is faster.

brandonwh64 May 13, 2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by assaulter_99 (Post 1891200)
Hm if the 5830 is junk, so the 5770 fares worst! lol. Anyways, it aint such a bad card, its just the pricing that kills it off. :toast:

Its not that its a bad card per se but its like it doesnt belong cause its not a 5850 and its not a 5770 and for a little bit more money you can just go ahead and get the 5850 with the more shaders and voltage control

assaulter_99 May 13, 2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64 (Post 1891206)
Its not that its a bad card per se but its like it doesnt belong cause its not a 5850 and its not a 5770 and for a little bit more money you can just go ahead and get the 5850 with the more shaders and voltage control

Definitively. Its like a lil orphan amongst these cards. Anyways I would go 5770 only if its temporary, wait for some time, save till I get another and cf em if you feel that the powa isnt enough (cheap and performs really well looking at benchies) But you know what its like, it doesn't work well sometimes. So a 5850 for $250+ (prices are just bouncy these days) is a better buy all round.

JrRacinFan May 13, 2010 03:42 PM

I say drop the CH4 and grab up an Asrock Extreme
ASRock 890GX Extreme3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/...

Only saying that since you mentioned budget.

mordant80 May 13, 2010 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan (Post 1891393)
I say drop the CH4 and grab up an Asrock Extreme
ASRock 890GX Extreme3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/...

Only saying that since you mentioned budget.

That's a good choice.. I picked up the ASRock 890FX DELUXE3 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB ... though.

It's a little more than what Jr linked and a good bit less than the Crosshair IV with the same 890FX chipset of the Crosshair IV

BraveSoul May 13, 2010 05:14 PM

mobo+cpu - excelent board with good reviews, combo
G.SKILL Ripjaws - great reviews, tighter timings
definitely get 5850 it will prove itself in the long run + there is room for crossfire
i agree with Fourstaff on the Antec 300 case, not as expensive, good design and air flow. check out Antec600black looks cool similar price
as for the PSU, so many to choose from but a few stand out like Rosewill and Antec with good reviews and wattage ratings
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JSampson May 13, 2010 08:29 PM

Thanks for all of the help guys. You guys are awesome. I really kinda had my mind set on the Crosshair IV board. I kinda fell in love with it. It looks super sexy. But of course, looks should not be my primary concern and its not, it marks up with performance. I read a review with the other board you mentioned and they are about equal. That $95 Price difference sure is looking mighty sexy too.

Sorry I didnt mention, buy yes, 4gigs of G Skill DDR

As for opting for the 5850, Im not sure if I can justify going from $215 to $320 Buy It Now from Ebay. Do you guys know of a cheaper price for the 5850? I was even considering dropping down to the 5770 or even the 5750, Geforce 260 or 285

JSampson May 13, 2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BraveSoul (Post 1891510)
mobo+cpu - excelent board with good reviews, combo
G.SKILL Ripjaws - great reviews, tighter timings
definitely get 5850 it will prove itself in the long run + there is room for crossfire
i agree with Fourstaff on the Antec 300 case, not as expensive, good design and air flow. check out Antec600black looks cool similar price
as for the PSU, so many to choose from but a few stand out like Rosewill and Antec with good reviews and wattage ratings
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That MOBO and CPU Combo saves me $10 so thanks for that!

I was really hoping to go with the reputable Asus board.

NdMk2o1o May 13, 2010 08:47 PM

A 5830 is not worth its price for the performance, if you have the budget get a 5850, if not get a 5770 they are no slouch and perform on par with 4890/275

eidairaman1 May 13, 2010 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o (Post 1891714)
A 5830 is not worth its price for the performance, if you have the budget get a 5850, if not get a 5770 they are no slouch and perform on par with 4890/275

I suspect when the goofed stock of 5830s leaves better revisions will launch.

JSampson May 13, 2010 09:06 PM

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My dad let me borrow this set up, but he forgot the power supply. Im not sure if he will let me have the tower, but I cant figure out what the heck this tower is. I searched all over this tower and could not find out who makes it so I could look it up. Does anyone recognize this? Would this work? I am wanting to do some overclocking on that 1055T. All that I found was an big circled "E" stamped on the bottom.

It has a front LED what looks to be 120mm fan on the bottom behind the front USB ports.

Top vent for a fan, maybe an 80mm fan

Two places for 80mm fans in the rear

One side 80mm fan

See pics. Sorry for a bit of the overflash. My Samsung Omnia II with 5mp camera has a pretty bright LED Flash. Dropped it down to 3mp.

JSampson May 13, 2010 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o (Post 1891714)
A 5830 is not worth its price for the performance, if you have the budget get a 5850, if not get a 5770 they are no slouch and perform on par with 4890/275

Isnt the 5850 much pricier than the 5830? I dont know if I have that in my budget

assaulter_99 May 13, 2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSampson (Post 1891734)
Isnt the 5850 much pricier than the 5830? I dont know if I have that in my budget

Yes sir it is. Like $50 more. Anyways, you can just try and use that case for the time being. Or you could forget the cpu cooler, for the time being at least. That would buy you some time to save some cash, put it where its really needed. And for the case, you'll hardly find a big name one that comes bundled with a psu. Afaik just generic cases come with shitty frying-hardware psu's, so I wouldn't trust em.

JSampson May 13, 2010 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellfire (Post 1891071)
What Fourstaff said but I'd get a smaller HDD for OS and a larger one for storage, the Ram, how much ram are you getting for that price?

Should I get two 500 gigs Western Digital SATA III instead of the one 1TB Western Digital SATA III?

I have two of ATA drives laying around from my old set up. 80gb, 160gb, both are 7200rpm. Should I use that in my set up?

JSampson May 13, 2010 09:38 PM

Also, I forgot to ask. I know the Crosshair IV has onboard video. How good is this onboard video? Would it be worth the cost savings to go with their onboard video until I can get enough funds for a better Graphics Card?

Lastly, I have ready a little bit on the Crossfire technology which is to my understanding, that you can run two GFX cards to enhance your gaming performance, but I thought I read that if you have a GFX card, it will work in correlation with the onboard graphics, is that correct or am I confused?

El_Mayo May 13, 2010 09:41 PM

I have an HD 5770

It's great.

1000/1250... stock voltage! :D

BraveSoul May 13, 2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSampson (Post 1891688)
As for opting for the 5850, Im not sure if I can justify going from $215 to $320 Buy It Now from Ebay. Do you guys know of a cheaper price for the 5850? I was even considering dropping down to the 5770 or even the 5750, Geforce 260 or 285

didn't you say you like racing games, im playing Need For Speed Shift right now, and ill tell u if the frames were any slower i would be very pissed, because the game looks amazing, and 5850 handles it well. it is worth every penny, man i would ditch the aftermarket cpu cooler and even borrow money to make sure gaming department is taken care of
:)
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