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btarunr Jul 21, 2010 10:58 AM

GeForce GTS 450 to Sport New GPU, 128-bit Memory Interface
 
After an industry-wide launch of the GeForce GTX 460 768M and GTX 460 1G, NVIDIA's next product launch is increasingly looking like a mainstream SKU, which will be based on a newer GPU. The GF106 graphics processor will push NVIDIA deeper into the mainstream market segment, where it will be competing for graphics cards in the sub-$150 range. One of the first SKUs is the GeForce GTS 450.

The GeForce GTS 450 GPU will have 1 GB of GDDR5 memory across a 128-bit wide memory interface, according to sources close to DonanimHaber. There won't be a reference NVIDIA board as such, and board partners will be given full lease to design their own PCBs and coolers. The GeForce GTS 450 is expected to be released to the market by the end of August, 2010.

Source: DonanimHaber

inferKNOX Jul 21, 2010 11:34 AM

Nice to see nV gain some momentum.
Now hopefully it'll make ATi finally give us those darn price-cuts we're all waiting for!!:nutkick:
And ATi, you suck for not having the fastest GPU, so give us a 5890!!:pimp:
(I hope that provokes them ATi brainiacks enough into giving us MOAR!)

Dent1 Jul 21, 2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inferKNOX (Post 1965696)
you suck for not having the fastest GPU, so give us a 5890!!:pimp:
(I hope that provokes them ATi brainiacks enough into giving us MOAR!)

I do not think that is going to work. ATI already has the fastest GPU which is the 5970. Until Nvidia release something faster than it ATI do not have to respond on the high end market.

But I hope this means that in the mainstream market the new Nvidia GTS 450 forces the ATI 5770 prices to lower somewhat.

RONX GT Jul 21, 2010 12:16 PM

It'll be interesting if This boy can match the HD 5770 performance wise(according to the price).

Hopefully it'll bring the price of 5770 down a little bit.

Nvidia also needs to bridge the gap of lower mainstream by their 106 chips like GTS/GT 440/430 to deal with the HD 5750/5670.........hmmm im waiting.;)

inferKNOX Jul 21, 2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dent1 (Post 1965701)
I do not think that is going to work. ATI already has the fastest GPU which is the 5970. Until Nvidia release something faster than it ATI do not have to respond on the high end market.

But I hope this means that in the mainstream market the new Nvidia GTS 450 forces the ATI 5770 prices to lower somewhat.

Ah, but you see, the 5970 is not the fastest GPU, it's the fastest dual-GPU card.
I'm talking about the 5870 which is walloped by the 480.
Unfortunately for the 480, extra performance is all it has to offer; I'd love to openly discuss the temps/power, but fear causing heart attacks, strokes and mass hysteria with those that read.:laugh:

yogurt_21 Jul 21, 2010 12:28 PM

nice to see nvidia release the reigns a bit. AIb partners used to have free reign of the card design it'll be nice to see what they cna come up with on their own without nvidia dictating how it should be.

assaulter_99 Jul 21, 2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inferKNOX (Post 1965714)
Ah, but you see, the 5970 is not the fastest GPU, it's the fastest dual-GPU card.
I'm talking about the 5870 which is walloped by the 480.
Unfortunately for the 480, extra performance is all it has to offer; I'd love to openly discuss the temps/power, but fear causing heart attacks, strokes and mass hysteria with those that read.:laugh:

Spot on dude, a lot of people forget that. Its like putting socks in your undies and sporting you have a bigger c*ck!!! :roll:

Hopefully it'll be a good card, just for the competition's sake. I'd like to just see how it fares against the 5770. Bout damn time I gave my 9800gt some deserved rest, now the winner for me will surely be the first to offer the best performance for ~$200.

Frick Jul 21, 2010 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by assaulter_99 (Post 1965747)
Spot on dude, a lot of people forget that. Its like putting socks in your undies and sporting you have a bigger c*ck!!! :roll:

Not exactly. It's still a single card. It might be unfair to put them side to side, but it's still the leader of the pack atm.

inferKNOX Jul 21, 2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by assaulter_99 (Post 1965747)
Spot on dude, a lot of people forget that. Its like putting socks in your undies and sporting you have a bigger c*ck!!! :roll:

Hopefully it'll be a good card, just for the competition's sake. I'd like to just see how it fares against the 5770. Bout damn time I gave my 9800gt some deserved rest, now the winner for me will surely be the first to offer the best performance for ~$200.

The way I understand it, the $200 battle ATM is the one developing between the 5830 and the 460.

entropy13 Jul 21, 2010 01:08 PM

So besides a -10 from a 460, the X becomes an S too. Upcoming low-range DX11 cards then would lose the S...Good work with the naming Nvidia. Not.

TIGR Jul 21, 2010 01:08 PM

Excellent! This seems promising as a potential replacement down the line for those fleets of inexpensive G92 Folding@home cards.

assaulter_99 Jul 21, 2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frick (Post 1965753)
Not exactly. It's still a single card. It might be unfair to put them side to side, but it's still the leader of the pack atm.

Yeah, single card, but with 2 5870's on it if I believe! lol we could go on and on! :toast: I don't wanna look like an NV fanboy :banghead:

Quote:

Originally Posted by inferKNOX (Post 1965755)
The way I understand it, the $200 battle ATM is the one developing between the 5830 and the 460.

Yeah with me leaning for the 460 ftm. I'm gonna wait till it dips below $200 (the 1gb model)

Frick Jul 21, 2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by assaulter_99 (Post 1965760)
Yeah, single card, but with 2 5870's on it if I believe! lol we could go on and on! :toast: I don't wanna look like an NV fanboy :banghead:

We could. :P

Cant wait for the 495 though! :D

assaulter_99 Jul 21, 2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frick (Post 1965762)
Cant wait for the 495 though! :D

lolz! Would need liquid nitrogen to cool it though! :laugh:

AlienIsGOD Jul 21, 2010 01:33 PM

anyone wanna speculate how many shaders this will prolly have?

Nosada Jul 21, 2010 02:04 PM

I'm posting this here, not because I actually believe it, but because if it turns out to be true, I'll be able to link to it and say "called it!"

GTS450 is a re-badged 8800GT/9800GT(+)/GTS250

RejZoR Jul 21, 2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by assaulter_99 (Post 1965747)
Spot on dude, a lot of people forget that. Its like putting socks in your undies and sporting you have a bigger c*ck!!! :roll:

Hopefully it'll be a good card, just for the competition's sake. I'd like to just see how it fares against the 5770. Bout damn time I gave my 9800gt some deserved rest, now the winner for me will surely be the first to offer the best performance for ~$200.

No, it's not spot on at all. Each company is driving their own philosophy.
NVIDIA is constantly building the most massive GPU you can imagine while AMD is following the "many smaller GPU's on same PCB". This brings some probems with profiles, but it's just cheaper to build to get nearly the same result. So why bothering with one massive troublesome GPU if you can make two smaller ones, stick them together on one PCB and voila.
And that's how it is. I'm sure they are aware about when one or another design makes sense.

Mussels Jul 21, 2010 04:19 PM

this is probably going to be aimed at competing with the 5770

a_ump Jul 21, 2010 04:32 PM

i hope its better than my HD 5770, easier for xfire upgrade :)

Dent1 Jul 21, 2010 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inferKNOX (Post 1965714)
Ah, but you see, the 5970 is not the fastest GPU, it's the fastest dual-GPU card.
I'm talking about the 5870 which is walloped by the 480.
Unfortunately for the 480, extra performance is all it has to offer; I'd love to openly discuss the temps/power, but fear causing heart attacks, strokes and mass hysteria with those that read.:laugh:


The 5790 having two GPUs is not ideal, but its advertised as one card and is still a formidable solution and has kept Nvidia at bay. Until NVidia slap two GTX 480s on one PCB, ATI have the crown.

I think you are being hard in respect to the 5870 it does not get "walloped", yes the GTX 480 is faster but only slightly. On most reviews including W1zzard's review only a few frames per second that separates the two i.e. 1-10 FPS which equates to 10% separation between the GTX 480 and 5870 on average at both high and low resolutions. So as far as I’m concerned they are practically on par. Also considering that the 5870 is over $100 cheaper and consumes less power its still the better choice.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N..._Fermi/32.html.

KainXS Jul 21, 2010 06:20 PM

Im gonna take a shot in the dark and say 240sp 16rop

phanbuey Jul 21, 2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RejZoR (Post 1965793)
No, it's not spot on at all. Each company is driving their own philosophy.
NVIDIA is constantly building the most massive GPU you can imagine while AMD is following the "many smaller GPU's on same PCB". This brings some probems with profiles, but it's just cheaper to build to get nearly the same result. So why bothering with one massive troublesome GPU if you can make two smaller ones, stick them together on one PCB and voila.
And that's how it is. I'm sure they are aware about when one or another design makes sense.


Sort of... ATI definitely won the DX11 Intro game. The dual GPU will be two GF104's for 768SP no idea when they might be releasing something like that though.

GF100 most likely will not make to a single PCB due to massive heat issues.

TIGR Jul 21, 2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosada (Post 1965791)
I'm posting this here, not because I actually believe it, but because if it turns out to be true, I'll be able to link to it and say "called it!"

GTS450 is a re-badged 8800GT/9800GT(+)/GTS250

It'd be hard to call it a rebadged G92-based card when its GPU is the new GF106.

Konceptz Jul 21, 2010 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inferKNOX (Post 1965755)
The way I understand it, the $200 battle ATM is the one developing between the 5830 and the 460.

Somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought the 5770 outperformed the 5830?

ebolamonkey3 Jul 21, 2010 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konceptz (Post 1966030)
Somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought the 5770 outperformed the 5830?

No, the 5770 definitely does not outperform the 5830. People didn't like the 5830 when it was released b/c it was supposed to bridge the huge gap b/t the 5770 and the 5850, and was priced exactly in the middle but it performed much closer to the 5770 side of things. But pure performance wise, it is definitely more powerful than the 5770 and now that they are priced at $200 (and can be found for $180 frequently), it's not a bad buy.


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