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Azfar Dec 29, 2011 08:46 PM

new 550ti. Unusual GPU-Z readings
 
I bought a 550ti today after my GTX275 died...*sigh*. Would have gone a bit higher had my wallet allowed. anyway. I put in the card in my rig, fired it up and ran GPU-z to get a feel of its vital states. and it is showing some strange readings. on the right is an image i picked off the web with correct readings

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t02h11m59s.jpg http://cdn3.pcadvisor.co.uk/cmsdata/...50_Ti_400a.jpg

bandwidth is wrong. should be at least 98GP/s or thereabouts. same is the case with pixel fill rate and memory rate. I played two rounds of Bfbc2 and frame rates were stable around 48fps. but why these unusual readings then :confused:??

p.s. Downloaded and ran furmark to see if the readings changed under load, but they remained unchanged. grrrrrrr.

W1zzard Dec 29, 2011 08:56 PM

are you sure your card has GDDR5 ? try to look at the memory chips

600 MHz * 192 Bit / 8 Bits per Byte * 2 DDR = 28,800

the fillrate has been corrected for 0.5.7: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=155459

white phantom Dec 29, 2011 09:00 PM

can i point out the fact that the supposed correct stats are using gddr5 and yours is showing ddr3?

as wizzard has pointed out the maths for the card having ddr3 would indicate the figures you have, so for some reason i think you got ddr3 and not ddr5

**edit**

i also notice that there is quite a few things diff about your card and the supplied screeny

mainly vendor,vram type,transistors,die size and the pci-e bus on your card is only running @8 1.1x compared to the @16x the screeny has

brandonwh64 Dec 29, 2011 09:03 PM

What is the maker of this card? There are cards out there that are DDR3 in the 550TI. Palit makes one :(

Crap Daddy Dec 29, 2011 09:06 PM

Another strange thing is the memory size 3072MB.

white phantom Dec 29, 2011 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64 (Post 2501074)
What is the maker of this card? There are cards out there that are DDR3 in the 550TI. Palit makes one :(

good to know that mate i also remember my 9500gt from palit would not register a vendor in the gpuz window so good call on that one looks like it may be so

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy (Post 2501077)
Another strange thing is the memory size 3072MB.

+1 missed that one lol

Azfar Dec 29, 2011 10:17 PM

Ouch !!!!
does that mean i got a low specd card ?
The vendor is Inno3D. www.inno3d.com
and yes the box states that its DDR3 inside.
O man. That hurts :(

1nf3rn0x Dec 30, 2011 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azfar (Post 2501119)
Ouch !!!!
does that mean i got a low specd card ?
The vendor is Inno3D. www.inno3d.com
and yes the box states that its DDR3 inside.
O man. That hurts :(

Ouch, you payed full price for a downgrade from you GTX 275. :ohwell:

Something which I do to eliminate things like this: Research before you buy the card, therefore you can see reviews etc before you get ripped off for something like this :S

Azfar Dec 30, 2011 06:11 AM

i did a bit of research. I always do. But seriously who goes in to the nitty gritties of memory timings. all i did was to have a look at some VGA charts. Anyway, will be returning the card today. be it at a loss.

Azfar Dec 30, 2011 06:42 AM

will either be buying a 6790 or 6850. Thanks for the help guys.

Crap Daddy Dec 30, 2011 07:31 AM

At least a 6850 coming from the 275. Why don't you get a 460 1GB? It's a little faster than the 275.

timma Dec 30, 2011 08:00 AM

left is DDR3,right is DDR5,they are different bandwindth.

LDNL Dec 30, 2011 08:09 AM

Not even high end cards have 3 gigs of gddr5. But then theres low end cards with hyperuberdupersuperultimate 3 gigabytes of gddr3 to trick the consumer that doesnt know better. The amount is important to some extent but the type and quality is something you need to keep an eye on.

edit: New radeons will be out in a couple of months. But if you cant wait that long a 6850,6870,460,560 would be a solid choice
http://www.guru3d.com/article/vga-charts-spring-2011/2

Zubasa Dec 30, 2011 09:29 AM

Actually may I ask where did you purchased the card?
There are actually a quite a few fake/remarked nVidia cards on my side of the world...

Quote:

Originally Posted by timma (Post 2501486)
left is DDR3,right is DDR5,they are different bandwidth.

The pixel fill rate is the problem, because there is no way it should be this low on a GTX550Ti.

To the OP: might as well run some benchmark to see if the card performs properly.

Azfar Dec 30, 2011 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LDNL (Post 2501488)
Not even high end cards have 3 gigs of gddr5. But then theres low end cards with hyperuberdupersuperultimate 3 gigabytes of gddr3 to trick the consumer that doesnt know better. The amount is important to some extent but the type and quality is something you need to keep an eye on.

edit: New radeons will be out in a couple of months. But if you cant wait that long a 6850,6870,460,560 would be a solid choice
http://www.guru3d.com/article/vga-charts-spring-2011/2

Well a BIG lesson learned. you see i'm considered a 'Computer Guy' among my friends and colleagues. and see what i'v gone through. I should have known how come a 3GB card is coming in cheaper than a 1GB variant. and thanks for the link. those are the very charts i went through before going for the 550ti :).

Azfar Dec 30, 2011 12:47 PM

and now the UPDATE: i returned the card today. Phew!! at a loss of some $11. no worries. I was happy to get rid of it. What a Rip OFF. I'm gearing up to send this one big email to these inno3d people. where ever they are found. and yes i bought a spanking new Sapphire 6870 1GB :rockout:. took the jump. first time i will be using an AMD product. am in office right now. will update you guys on how it is coming up once i get home.

Mussels Dec 30, 2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azfar (Post 2501628)
and now the UPDATE: i returned the card today. Phew!! at a loss of some $11. no worries. I was happy to get rid of it. What a Rip OFF. I'm gearing up to send this one big email to these inno3d people. where ever they are found. and yes i bought a spanking new Sapphire 6870 1GB :rockout:. took the jump. first time i will be using an AMD product. am in office right now. will update you guys on how it is coming up once i get home.

there always has been, and always will be models with more, but slower ram. always watch out for it.

tigger Dec 30, 2011 12:56 PM

You'll enjoy that 6870, :D

CJCerny Dec 30, 2011 12:59 PM

I wouldn't blame the manufacturer. Lower priced DDR3 cards are an option for any manufacturer. Additionally, DDR3 is often used on cards that have more memory than the reference card, which sounds like what this card was. Unless the card was advertised as having DDR5, I think you just made a mistake to assume it did.

Huddo93 Dec 30, 2011 01:52 PM

i would not buy a GTX 460, mine performed lower than my GTX 275. Most games that i get 70FPS i will get 50FPS with the GTX 460. such a bad buy + it was EVGA GTX460 so it was a pretty decent one to :(

Azfar Dec 30, 2011 07:42 PM

Alright. 6870 up and running. No hickups this time. just had a marathon run of BFBC2. smooth as silk :D.

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/12/30/c3y.png

Do have one question though. why the shader clock field is not showing any value ?

Crap Daddy Dec 30, 2011 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huddo93 (Post 2501659)
i would not buy a GTX 460, mine performed lower than my GTX 275. Most games that i get 70FPS i will get 50FPS with the GTX 460. such a bad buy + it was EVGA GTX460 so it was a pretty decent one to :(

Really? I always wondered how my ex-275 would fare against a 460. Didn't you had the 700 and something MB version?

tigger Dec 31, 2011 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azfar (Post 2501919)
Alright. 6870 up and running. No hickups this time. just had a marathon run of BFBC2. smooth as silk :D.

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/12/30/c3y.png

Do have one question though. why the shader clock field is not showing any value ?

I've got mine at 950/1100, i guess it will go higher if i tweak the voltage, but its fine for mw at this.

Is yours a reference sapphire card?

Azfar Dec 31, 2011 04:29 AM

Aah...you got Sapphire too :D. well mines at stock 900/1050. i'v got this particular one

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...n=&lid=1&leg=0

Didn't have much success with my ex-275 when it came to OCing. will definitely have a go at 6870. Have seen it go past 1GHz on core clock on various forums. What utility are you using for OCing ?

tigger Dec 31, 2011 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azfar (Post 2502256)
Aah...you got Sapphire too :D. well mines at stock 900/1050. i'v got this particular one

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...n=&lid=1&leg=0

Didn't have much success with my ex-275 when it came to OCing. will definitely have a go at 6870. Have seen it go past 1GHz on core clock on various forums. What utility are you using for OCing ?

This is the one I have-
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...n=&lid=1&leg=0

The cooler is surprisingly quiet, and the temps are ok too.

For oc'ing i'm using ccc, but afterburner is pretty good, and you can adjust the voltage using that.


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