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btarunr Apr 26, 2012 04:10 PM

AMD Gains CPU Market Share at Intel's Expense in Q1
 
AMD gained CPU market share at Intel's expense in the first-quarter of 2012, according to the latest data by Mercury Research. Intel's CPU market share dropped from 81 percent last quarter, to 80.2 percent, while AMD's rose from 18.2 percent to 19.1 percent. Principal analyst at Mercury Research, Dean McCarron said that AMD benefited from improvements in hard drive supplies. AMD is strong in desktop processors, with 43 percent of the market, the same as last year. Customers also opted for lower-priced laptops, many of which had AMD's chips. Supplies of AMD's A-series chips code-named Llano were restored after manufacturing issues were resolved, McCarron said.

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Source: PCWorld

Halk Apr 26, 2012 04:22 PM

Shows how disconnected us enthusiasts really are... All we're concerned about is the high end stuff to the point where we don't notice what else is going on. We're all lamenting the lack of AMD competition :)

NdMk2o1o Apr 26, 2012 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr (Post 2612710)
AMD is strong in desktop processors, with 43 percent of the market

Wow 43% of the desktop market, that is a shock I would have thought it would have been lower than that in all honesty. Now we know why AMD is starting to focus on the server market more and Intel the high end desktop :rolleyes:

fullinfusion Apr 26, 2012 04:45 PM

Make that 42% :cool:

Vinska Apr 26, 2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullinfusion (Post 2612742)
Make that 42% :cool:

*squint eyes*
I see what You did there!

blibba Apr 26, 2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o (Post 2612727)
Wow 43% of the desktop market...

This is a huge surprise to me. I haven't even seen an AMD desktop for sale in the UK in a year or two. Intel have all the major OEM contracts, and people who build their own are all buying Intel now too. Who are these 43%?

cadaveca Apr 26, 2012 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blibba (Post 2612750)
This is a huge surprise to me. I haven't even seen an AMD desktop for sale in the UK in a year or two. Intel have all the major OEM contracts, and people who build their own are all buying Intel now too. Who are these 43%?

office machines, "big-box" retailers in US and China. APUs are pretty popular in some regions, easy sales, those chips, with really decent profit margins. If you're worknig commision sales, APUs are your profit leader. Most "normal" people don't need or have any use for the extra compute power that Intel offers. Show just a $25 savings on buying AMD, and they'll buy.

Evolved Apr 26, 2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca (Post 2612752)
if you're worknig commision sales, apus are your profit leader. Most "normal" people don't need or have any use for the extra compute power that intel offers. Show just a $25 savings on buying amd, and they'll buy.

+1

Dent1 Apr 26, 2012 05:15 PM

Where are all the Intel fanboys now? When AMD is doing well they can't be found!

In the last few days they were all bashing AMD in the below following threads:

AMD A10-5800K "Trinity" APU Tested
AMD Intros the FX-6200 and FX-4170 Processors, Cuts Some Prices
Trinity Provides Up To 29% Faster Productivity, 56% Faster Visuals Than Llano: AMD
AMD Reports First Quarter Results

blibba Apr 26, 2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dent1 (Post 2612785)
Where are all the Intel fanboys now? When AMD is doing well they can't be found!

In the last few days they were all bashing AMD in the below following threads:

AMD A10-5800K "Trinity" APU Tested
AMD Intros the FX-6200 and FX-4170 Processors, Cuts Some Prices
Trinity Provides Up To 29% Faster Productivity, 56% Faster Visuals Than Llano: AMD

This thread isn't about performance or performance/price. When the discussion moves onto those topics, Intel fanboys will (in some cases rightly) shoot it down.

As others have said, if anything, this piece of news just shows that the average consumer does not care about Intel's undeniable advantage in x86 performance and efficiency.

TRWOV Apr 26, 2012 05:55 PM

Nice

GenTarkin Apr 26, 2012 06:02 PM

I wonder how much AMD gets from all the console stuff they OEM. I mean, the entire next generation of consoles will be mostly AMD powered w/ both CPU's and GPU's

Crap Daddy Apr 26, 2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dent1 (Post 2612785)
Where are all the Intel fanboys now? When AMD is doing well they can't be found!

I'm here.

WhiteLotus Apr 26, 2012 06:57 PM

This is good news for AMD. They can easily take the "mainstream" crown, and seeing as that is where the most money is, good on them.

Dent1 Apr 26, 2012 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteLotus (Post 2612901)
This is good news for AMD. They can easily take the "mainstream" crown, and seeing as that is where the most money is, good on them.

The crazy thing is, they are doing it with limited marketing. Think of what AMD can achieve once they're in a position to benefit from stronger marketing campaigns.

Intel should be worried, in five years to a decade or so AMD might be in a position to take their spot, marketshare wise.

dieterd Apr 26, 2012 07:09 PM

holly crap - I would bet my ass they were under 25%, but good news for everybody, Intel has to do some sweat to keep prices low and preformance high. and now it makes sense that Intel is giving Ivy for Sandys price (just a year after Sandy and 3Q's after fragile bulldozer), another year there will be Haswell...

BR,
Intell Fanboy

El_Mayo Apr 26, 2012 07:09 PM

This is good. I like AMD.

NdMk2o1o Apr 26, 2012 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dent1 (Post 2612909)
The crazy thing is, they are doing it with limited marketing. Think of what AMD can achieve once they're in a position to benefit from stronger marketing campaigns.

Intel should be worried, in five years to a decade or so AMD might be in a position to take their spot, marketshare wise.

No offense but you need to stop beating the same drum, evey single one of your posts you are one of the first to jump in and defend AMD. I'm sure Intel really need to be worried considering they have 80% marketshare. AMD never have nor will have (by the looks of it) anywhere near the same kind of R+D or marketing resources as Intel to make that leap.

That said, AMD are doing good at what they are doing and that is taking some marketshare in certain segments where they can compete, they're in business and making profit (kind of anyway) so they are succesful as is. Thinking they will overtake Intel is .... well, it's like thinking that Appple could ever overtake the mighty Microsoft :slap: :nutkick: :roll::roll:.... wait...... :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteLotus (Post 2612901)
This is good news for AMD. They can easily take the "mainstream" crown, and seeing as that is where the most money is, good on them.

Think you'll find the enterprise space is where the most money is and Intel has 70%+

TRWOV Apr 26, 2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteLotus (Post 2612901)
This is good news for AMD. They can easily take the "mainstream" crown, and seeing as that is where the most money is, good on them.


Not by a long shot. While AMD has 43% of the desktop x86 market, they only have 19% of the whole x86 market. These results are good for brand recognition not so much for revenue.

Crap Daddy Apr 26, 2012 07:48 PM

Don't get too excited. Read this from our very own TPU archive:

http://www.techpowerup.com/162419/Wo...d-to-2010.html

I'll just highlight:

"In the desktop PC processor segment, Intel earned 73.8%, a gain of 1.7%, AMD earned 26.0%, a loss of 1.6%, and VIA earned 0.2%, a loss of 0.2%."

That was for last year so I don't know what's with 43% desktop share same as last year for AMD.

Maybe I'm wrong or don't understand what's with these numbers.

Assimilator Apr 26, 2012 08:08 PM

Bottom line is still that Intel sells 4 CPUs for every 1 that AMD sells.

Dent1 Apr 26, 2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o (Post 2612925)
No offense but you need to stop beating the same drum, evey single one of your posts you are one of the first to jump in and defend AMD. I'm sure Intel really need to be worried considering they have 80% marketshare. AMD never have nor will have (by the looks of it) anywhere near the same kind of R+D or marketing resources as Intel to make that leap.

Well only a year ago Intel had a 84% market share. The trend shows (with our limited data) a near 4% less per year. It could bring them down to a 40% market share in a decade. Of course this is very unlikely, but I'm just pointing it out.

Where AMD has an opporunity to capture an overall processor majority is in the laptop and mobile market i.e. mobile phones, PDAs tablets, notebooks, games consoles etc. This is where AMD could gain a much larger CPU market if they keep Intel in a stranglehold.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o (Post 2612925)
Thinking they will overtake Intel is .... well, it's like thinking that Appple could ever overtake the mighty Microsoft :slap: :nutkick: :roll::roll:.... wait...... :confused:

I'm not saying AMD will or is going to overtake Intel. But I am saying that AMD has a potential to if they make the right decisions in the next decade or so.

Also its very possible for Apple to overtake Microsoft. Maybe not in the OS market, but in the consumer market in general.

Zubasa Apr 26, 2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assimilator (Post 2612967)
Bottom line is still that Intel sells 4 CPUs for every 1 that AMD sells.

More importantly Intel makes a shit ton of money while AMD does not.

ensabrenoir Apr 26, 2012 09:05 PM

An increase is an increase .....desktops are declining to laps ultras and tablets though. And your right you dont see many $ 300 intel desktops in walmart these days. Amd rejoice now but pay attention to that walll and whats being writen on it....big changes..... coming fast

WhiteLotus Apr 26, 2012 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o (Post 2612925)
Think you'll find the enterprise space is where the most money is and Intel has 70%+

Do you mean like prebuilt computers by Dell and the like?

That is what I mean, perhaps I am getting my terms wrong.


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