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D007 Nov 20, 2012 09:34 PM

$750 desktop w/o Monitor. "Can you build it?"
 
Heyas, I know some of you gurus out there are capable of building monsters for this price. I have a friend who's looking to buy a pc in that range. I'm a bit out of the loop atm int terms on components and I have had all of 0 time lately, working2 jobs, to put this together. Anyone out there want to try building a desktop pc, for $750 US?
He doesn't need a monitor, he's using his TV.
Thanks a bunch. :)

PS: Yep, he does need a mouse and keyboard though. Preferably wireless.

Kreij Nov 20, 2012 09:36 PM

What's he going to use it for?

D007 Nov 20, 2012 09:43 PM

Music and mostly just basic internet stuff.. maybe some videos and what not.. Want's HDMI/DVI capability though. whichever, for HD quality.
Tx.


Eh, I may as well give you details.. He wants to use it next to the stripper pole in his place, to make a music station, playing videos and stuff.
Using those trippy looking patterns in the music players as well and whatever other software he adds to it I guess. lol.. fun stuff..

Decent PC + Big screen TV + loud music + plus stripper pole = good time.. heh..

Back to work for me.. thanks :)

Guitarrassdeamor Nov 20, 2012 11:43 PM

$750 is an easy build. I'll let others chime in for the actual build but a decent computer can def. be had at that...might even look at getting some used parts depending on how long he wants to keep it.

ALMOSTunseen Nov 20, 2012 11:53 PM

Intel Graphics is fine for watching HD movies.
Get a 3570k, 4GB of Ram, A nice big hard drive.
Try and go Mini-ITX, so its small.

TacoTown Nov 20, 2012 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMOSTunseen (Post 2781950)
Intel Graphics is fine for watching HD movies.
Get a 3570k, 4GB of Ram, A nice big hard drive.
Try and go Mini-ITX, so its small.

If it's going to be simple stuff why does he need that much power? Get him an APU.

Aquinus Nov 21, 2012 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TacoTown (Post 2781956)
Get him an APU.

My thoughts exactly

CPU:
Yes to overclocking: AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket...
No to overclocking: AMD A10-5700 Trinity 3.4GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket ...

Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM...
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A85X Extreme6 FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4) H...
SSD: SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB SATA I...
HDD: Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB...

That leaves you with 300 USD or just shy of 300 USD if you go with the 5800k instead of the 5700 which has a lower TDP without sacrificing much if you're not overclocking.

Either way that's 300 USD for a PSU, Case, and Windows. Not an impossible task. Going with an APU lets you get some nicer quality components because of the price of the CPU/iGPU combo imho.

Norton Nov 21, 2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquinus (Post 2781966)
My thoughts exactly

CPU:
Yes to overclocking: AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket...
No to overclocking: AMD A10-5700 Trinity 3.4GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket ...

Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM...
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A85X Extreme6 FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4) H...
SSD: SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB SATA I...
HDD: Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB...

That leaves you with 300 USD or just shy of 300 USD if you go with the 5800k instead of the 5700 which has a lower TDP without sacrificing much if you're not overclocking.

Either way that's 300 USD for a PSU, Case, and Windows. Not an impossible task. Going with an APU lets you get some nicer quality components because of the price of the CPU/iGPU combo imho.

Here's a nice microATX option for that build list:

ASRock FM2A85X Extreme4-M FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4)...

vawrvawerawe Nov 22, 2012 01:16 AM

yes, of course. you can build a desktop without monitor for anywhere between $100 and $10,000+. Just depends on what you want to put in there.

D007 Nov 22, 2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vawrvawerawe (Post 2782941)
yes, of course. you can build a desktop without monitor for anywhere between $100 and $10,000+. Just depends on what you want to put in there.

Lol, like I don't know that..

Thank you guys for the advice on parts. :) Very nice options there. He's not a gamer so I like the idea of the apu. :toast:

cdawall Nov 24, 2012 06:31 AM

I would go MATX for a build like this. Found as many silent parts as possible since there is no reason whatsoever to make noise with this kind of build.

Silverstone Tenjin
PCP&C Silencer MK III 500w
XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283
ASRock FM2A75M-DGS FM2
AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo)
Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3
ADATA Premier Pro SP900 256GB
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM

Total of $667.92 with $25 of MIR not included. Leaves him $80 to pick a mouse and keyboard since those are more of a personal preference thing.

drdeathx Nov 24, 2012 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall (Post 2784506)
I would go MATX for a build like this. Found as many silent parts as possible since there is no reason whatsoever to make noise with this kind of build.

Silverstone Tenjin
PCP&C Silencer MK III 500w
XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283
ASRock FM2A75M-DGS FM2
AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo)
Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3
ADATA Premier Pro SP900 256GB
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM

Total of $667.92 with $25 of MIR not included. Leaves him $80 to pick a mouse and keyboard since those are more of a personal preference thing.


Yup and he could pick up a 6670 and crossfire it with the on die 7650D in the future and make it better for gaming.

ALMOSTunseen Nov 24, 2012 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx (Post 2784507)
Yup and he could pick up a 6670 and crossfire it with the on die 7650D in the future and make it better for gaming.

I've heard the "hybrid" crossfire can be a bit dodgy.

drdeathx Nov 24, 2012 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMOSTunseen (Post 2784509)
I've heard the "hybrid" crossfire can be a bit dodgy.



Nope. I did not see any problems with it at all. I have a trinity buid also.

cdawall Nov 24, 2012 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMOSTunseen (Post 2784509)
I've heard the "hybrid" crossfire can be a bit dodgy.

It's getting better most of it is in the drivers. Honestly he isn't a gamer so it is mute as of now. If he ever gets into PC games the onboard can handle plenty and worst case the PSU has plenty of kick for the latest and greatest card on the market.

Frick Nov 24, 2012 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMOSTunseen (Post 2784509)
I've heard the "hybrid" crossfire can be a bit dodgy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx (Post 2784510)
Nope. I did not see any problems with it at all. I have a trinity buid also.

Oh yes it can. It all depends on which titles you're playing.

http://www.nordichardware.se/images/...tlefield_3.png
http://www.nordichardware.se/images/.../DG_Skyrim.png
http://www.nordichardware.se/images/...orderlands.png
http://www.nordichardware.se/images/...Metro_2033.png

With that said cdawall's build is the best one IMO. A 256GB SSD is bloody nice.

JrRacinFan Nov 24, 2012 07:06 AM

nMEDIAPC Black Aluminum / Acrylic / Steel HTPC 600...
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...
ASRock FM2A85X Extreme4-M FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4)...
Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Ca...
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 P...
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...
Intel 330 Series SSDSC2CT240A3K5 2.5" 240GB SATA I...

That leaves you $100 underbudget minus shipping before $30 MIR. Don't forget the wireless KB/Mouse.

Aquinus Nov 24, 2012 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D007 (Post 2783444)
He's not a gamer so I like the idea of the apu.

He said his friend is not a gamer, so give up on crossfire. He won't need it. If he won't be overclocking either, a K edition APU isn't necessary either so you really should consider the 5700 instead of the 5800k. There is a difference of 100 or 200mhz and the ability to overclock but on the other hand It also has a lower TDP to less power consumption and heat that it will generate along with the same graphics power as the 5800k.

drdeathx Nov 24, 2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frick (Post 2784515)
Oh yes it can. It all depends on which titles you're playing.

Do you have a Trinity setup? Nough said.:slap:

drdeathx Nov 24, 2012 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquinus (Post 2784543)
He said his friend is not a gamer, so give up on crossfire. He won't need it. If he won't be overclocking either, a K edition APU isn't necessary either so you really should consider the 5700 instead of the 5800k. There is a difference of 100 or 200mhz and the ability to overclock but on the other hand It also has a lower TDP to less power consumption and heat that it will generate along with the same graphics power as the 5800k.

All we said is he can always add it on. I wish some peeps would read the thread....:slap:

Aquinus Nov 24, 2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx (Post 2784726)
All we said is he can always add it on. I wish some peeps would read the thread....:slap:

Yeah, but what I don't get is why would you want to do crossfire with your graphics if the user doesn't play games. There is absolutely no reason to get a card to run next to the iGPU unless he or she is into crunching and it isn't like you're going to use crossfire for GPU accelerated video playback.

drdeathx Nov 24, 2012 07:07 PM

:slap:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquinus (Post 2784734)
Yeah, but what I don't get is why would you want to do crossfire with your graphics if the user doesn't play games. There is absolutely no reason to get a card to run next to the iGPU unless he or she is into crunching and it isn't like you're going to use crossfire for GPU accelerated video playback.

Move on

vawrvawerawe Nov 24, 2012 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquinus (Post 2784734)
Yeah, but what I don't get is why would you want to do crossfire with your graphics if the user doesn't play games. There is absolutely no reason to get a card to run next to the iGPU unless he or she is into crunching and it isn't like you're going to use crossfire for GPU accelerated video playback.

I can come up with some reasons for you:

Practical reasons:
* Increased performance for high-end graphics work
* Video editing
* Crunching numbers
* Finding PI
* Digging up coins

Impractical reasons:
* Because you have money to throw away
* Because you want to brag to your friends about having the best PC
* Because it strokes your ego to have it

Laurijan Nov 24, 2012 07:52 PM

Take a case that allows to add a graphics card if you friend even want to upgrade from the iGPU of the APU - some media center cases allow to add a graphics card.

cdawall Nov 24, 2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laurijan (Post 2784786)
Take a case that allows to add a graphics card if you friend even want to upgrade from the iGPU of the APU - some media center cases allow to add a graphics card.

The case I listed will fit any graphics card out.


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