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Xtreme512 Jan 20, 2013 01:54 PM

3570K 4.5 GHz 1.3 V Temps are OK ?
 
Hello guys.. I have been testing my thermaltake contac 30 for its performance and some sites say its performance is equal to hyper 212+ so it makes me curious about that..

Is is true ?

I used the most demanding test which is IBT and you know cpus get 10 degrees hotter wtih this test rather than Prime95 torture and blend test.

Let me get this clear, IBT uses 86 Watts ! (saw in core temp) while Prime95 uses 71 Watts. This is why IBT is the best for stressing CPUs.

OK here is my results.. Intel Burn Test 64-Bit Maximum 10 Cycles

NOTE:

1) (degrees are all celcius) max core temp is 84 degree but I saw at most 80 ish !! on core 1-2 nothing more, I dont know why its saying 83-84 ?

2) by the way, outside temp was 16 degree, room tem pwas around 19-20 degrees.

3) My stable volt for 4.5 GHz is 1.26 but Im using 1.27 and in IBT it shows 1.30 V but in Prime95 its again back to normal 1.27 V :) My CPU is not stable below 1.26 V for 4.5 GHz.


http://imageupper.com/s02/1/9/S1358692471207061_1.jpg

So is this results are good ? better than hyper evo 212 ? or equal to it ?

amp281 Jan 20, 2013 02:53 PM

I would say its okay. You won't ever encounter IBT stress in any application you will ever need to do. Is it prime 95 stable for several hours? If so its fine.

What does it idle at and what is load when running something other than p95 and IBT (ex 3dmark)?

Are you running two fans on it or is there a way to add another fan to the TC 30 so it has a push/pull through design?

Xtreme512 Jan 20, 2013 03:02 PM

thanks for reply.

As you said, there is no real world app that fry cpus like IBT, my max temp never goes to 70 degrees while gaming or benchmarkng like 3dmark physics. idling in 20-30 degrees but mostly 20ish.

Yes it could have a push pull desing with 2 fans but Im using it stock because my case has already have a 120mm exhaust fan looking at the contac 30. like in this pic.

http://bimg2.mlstatic.com/disipador-...506_092012.jpg

Xtreme512 Jan 20, 2013 03:10 PM

are there any hyper 212+ users that can test 3570k 4.5 ghz with room temp 20 in ibt max ? I just want to compare the results.

ruff0r Jan 20, 2013 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtreme512 (Post 2826549)
NOTE:

1) (degrees are all celcius) max core temp is 84 degree but I saw at most 80 ish !! on core 1-2 nothing more, I dont know why its saying 83-84 ?

2) by the way, outside temp was 16 degree, room tem pwas around 19-20 degrees.

3) My stable volt for 4.5 GHz is 1.26 but Im using 1.27 and in IBT it shows 1.30 V but in Prime95 its again back to normal 1.27 V :) My CPU is not stable below 1.26 V for 4.5 GHz.

So is this results are good ? better than hyper evo 212 ? or equal to it ?

1.27V is quite good indeed 80C° under load on the other hand is to high for daily use try to lower it to the 70s

Ivy Bridge's throttling threshold is somewhere in the 90-95C range.

Those would be CORE temperatures, not to be confused with PACKAGE temperatures.

Xtreme512 Jan 20, 2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff0r (Post 2826622)
1.27V is quite good indeed 80C° under load on the other hand is to high for daily use try to lower it to the 70s

yeah its under 70s on real world apps. Im keeping an eye for the temps :)

Jstn7477 Jan 20, 2013 03:57 PM

4.3GHz/1.175v on my 3770K (load line, this is the voltage the chip is set at and runs at) gets me around 90c in IBT with HT on.

ruff0r Jan 20, 2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jstn7477 (Post 2826640)
4.3GHz/1.175v on my 3770K (load line, this is the voltage the chip is set at and runs at) gets me around 90c in IBT with HT on.

Ivy Bridge's throttling threshold is somewhere in the 90-95C range.

You are so close to make the Cpu throttle try to lower the temps

Sasqui Jan 20, 2013 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtreme512 (Post 2826608)
are there any hyper 212+ users that can test 3570k 4.5 ghz with room temp 20 in ibt max ? I just want to compare the results.

I seem to have gotten a really good chip.. see this thread: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...=175725&page=1

http://img.techpowerup.org/121119/Pr...5_Ghz_125v.png

I got to a stable 4.9Ghz last night under water (I was really, really hoping for 5.0Ghz :o) , but Vcore near 1.4v and temps topped 92c. I think I'll stick with 4.6 or 4.7Ghz for 24/7

amp281 Jan 20, 2013 04:12 PM

Very cool. What watercooler? Custom?

Xtreme512 Jan 20, 2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasqui (Post 2826644)
I seem to have gotten a really good chip.. see this thread: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...=175725&page=1

http://img.techpowerup.org/121119/Pr...5_Ghz_125v.png

I got to a stable 4.9Ghz last night under water (I was really, really hoping for 5.0Ghz :o) , but Vcore near 1.4v and temps topped 92c. I think I'll stick with 4.6 or 4.7Ghz for 24/7

I see that 60 watts is using its quite low thats why you got lower temps.. dont use prime95.

Make a test 10 cycle IBT at maximum and post the results for 4.5 ghz.. ;) at core temp it must show 86 watts usage which is enourmosly high for 3570K, its the best stress for the CPUs.

by the way, my temps on prime95 at 71 watts are nearly 70 degree too. IBT runs the CPU 10 degrees hotter :)

Sasqui Jan 20, 2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amp281 (Post 2826653)
Very cool. What watercooler? Custom?

The testing in that thread (and the image I posted above) was with a CM 212 Evo. Now in the system listed in my specs, I plan to post some results soon... after swapping PSU's and graphics cards in three different systems (arghhhh).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtreme512 (Post 2826656)
I see that 60 watts is using its quite low thats why you got lower temps.. dont use prime95.

Make a test 10 cycle IBT at maximum and post the results for 4.5 ghz.. ;) at core temp it must show 86 watts usage which is enourmosly high for 3570K, its the best stress for the CPUs.

by the way, my temps on prime95 at 71 watts are nearly 70 degree too. IBT runs the CPU 10 degrees hotter :)

I've never used IBT, is it published by Intel??? 71 watts at 4.5Ghz? That's what I was getting at 4.9Ghz... Probably the difference in voltage.

Xtreme512 Jan 20, 2013 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasqui (Post 2826644)
I seem to have gotten a really good chip.. see this thread: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...=175725&page=1

http://img.techpowerup.org/121119/Pr...5_Ghz_125v.png

I got to a stable 4.9Ghz last night under water (I was really, really hoping for 5.0Ghz :o) , but Vcore near 1.4v and temps topped 92c. I think I'll stick with 4.6 or 4.7Ghz for 24/7

whats the settings of prime95 at that time ?

cadaveca Jan 20, 2013 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasqui (Post 2826670)
I've never used IBT, is it published by Intel??? 71 watts at 4.5Ghz? That's what I was getting at 4.9Ghz... Probably the difference in voltage.

IBT was originally from Intel, in Core2Duo days. It is an app for testing and breaking CPUs, with very much unrealistic power draw.

I do not recommend it. :p


Just run normal LinX testing, it's the same thing, but current LinX support AVX. NOt sure that IBT does.

Sasqui Jan 20, 2013 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca (Post 2826685)
IBT was originally from Intel, in Core2Duo days.

I think I do recall now, thx.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtreme512 (Post 2826682)
whats the settings of prime95 at that time ?

Blend

Xtreme512 Jan 20, 2013 06:24 PM

http://imageupper.com/s02/1/6/L1358709503208890_1.jpg

more or less 70 degrees after 10 minutes of testing temps are not changing. 73 Max on core but again I took an SS its moving around 68-70 degrees.

Sasqui Jan 20, 2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtreme512 (Post 2826707)
http://imageupper.com/s02/1/6/L1358709503208890_1.jpg

more or less 70 degrees after 10 minutes of testing temps are not changing. 73 Max on core but again I took an SS its moving around 68-70 degrees.

That's good... where I am, the images from "imageupper.com" are not coming through here. Can you use TPU hosting?

drdeathx Jan 20, 2013 06:42 PM

Only accurate way to measure power draw is with a volt o meter BTW guys. I don't know how accurate CPUZ is and it does not give total draw BTW.

Xtreme512 Jan 20, 2013 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasqui (Post 2826711)
That's good... where I am, the images from "imageupper.com" are not coming through here. Can you use TPU hosting?

you can always right click properties and view the link.
http://imageupper.com/s02/1/6/L1358709503208890_1.jpg
just copy paste it in a new window and thats all ;)

by the way, sometimes I cannot see my pictures from imageupper too :D lol

Xtreme512 Jan 20, 2013 06:58 PM

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Sasqui Jan 20, 2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtreme512 (Post 2826723)
you can always right click properties and view the link.
http://imageupper.com/s02/1/6/L1358709503208890_1.jpg
just copy paste it in a new window and thats all ;)

by the way, sometimes I cannot see my pictures from imageupper too :D lol

You might be pasting the link incorrectly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtreme512 (Post 2826728)
I used TPU now.

That's better :) If you paste into the link button when composing in advanced, it won't come though as a thumbnail... me thinks.

LAN_deRf_HA Jan 20, 2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca (Post 2826685)
IBT was originally from Intel, in Core2Duo days. It is an app for testing and breaking CPUs, with very much unrealistic power draw.

I do not recommend it. :p


Just run normal LinX testing, it's the same thing, but current LinX support AVX. NOt sure that IBT does.

IBT has been continuously updated. It has supported AVX for awhile now. I'd still never use IBT alone though. If you haven't passed 24 hours of the latest prime95 (which is avx enabled too) then I wouldn't call it stable. And it really does need 24 hours. I've seen plenty of people fail after the "standard" 12 hours. I think a complete pass on a modern overclocked chip takes about 22 hours.

Xtreme512 Jan 20, 2013 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA (Post 2826795)
IBT has been continuously updated. It has supported AVX for awhile now. I'd still never use IBT alone though. If you haven't passed 24 hours of the latest prime95 (which is avx enabled too) then I wouldn't call it stable. And it really does need 24 hours. I've seen plenty of people fail after the "standard" 12 hours. I think a complete pass on a modern overclocked chip takes about 22 hours.

what is AVX ?

Sasqui Jan 20, 2013 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lan_derf_ha (Post 2826795)
if you haven't passed 24 hours of the latest prime95 (which is avx enabled too) then i wouldn't call it stable.

+1

Aquinus Jan 21, 2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Xtreme512 (Post 2826798)
what is AVX ?

Advanced vector extensions.


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