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kwikgta Jan 21, 2013 08:21 AM

Velociraptor Raid 0 results!
 
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Just installed four 500gig raptors in raid 0 into my rig. I'm very impressed with the outcome.

anonymous6366 Jan 21, 2013 11:11 PM

Damn son haha

Xenturion Jan 21, 2013 11:50 PM

*In Before the Ragers Arrive*

In all seriousness, I always wanted to do something similar. Very cool.

natr0n Jan 21, 2013 11:59 PM

Nice speeds. Kinda odd your cpu usuage is so low, but still cool.

Keep a fan on those raptors they get hot.

Feanor Jan 22, 2013 12:00 AM

I used four 36gb raptors in raid 0 a few years back for an os drive, and while they were quite hot/loud, i loved them.

You have a way better setup, with all the goods and almost none of the cons!

kwikgta Jan 22, 2013 12:55 AM

Thanks a lot guys. I'm just not into the whole SSD thing as far as size/cost and I wanted to be different. I do have a 140mm fan blowing across the drives. I may pick up 2 more velociraptors and run all 6 in raid just for shits and giggles. I will also say they are a lot quieter than the old raptors I had years ago.

Jstn7477 Jan 22, 2013 01:13 AM

I wonder how fast the array would run on an Intel controller or a dedicated enterprise level card. If I remember correctly, a RAID 5 build I did with an Areca 1210 and 4x 500GB WD Blacks did around 340 max/180 min MB/s. Looks like your setup pretty much doubled those.

drdeathx Jan 22, 2013 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kwikgta (Post 2827729)
Thanks a lot guys. I'm just not into the whole SSD thing as far as size/cost and I wanted to be different. I do have a 140mm fan blowing across the drives. I may pick up 2 more velociraptors and run all 6 in raid just for shits and giggles. I will also say they are a lot quieter than the old raptors I had years ago.

Why not use the money on the 2 more you want to buy for a SSD for the OS and use the 2 you have in raid for data storage. The access times on SSd's are much faster along with the iops.

Feanor Jan 22, 2013 01:55 AM

Your setup is cool, and while i did enjoyed mine in the days, try to put it in front of ssd doesn't make much sense. Unless you factor in $/gb, the ssd will run circles around any hard drive, even if you raid many of them. I was not really into it until last year, the 70$ vertex 2 50gb i bought back then just blew me away.

If you try a sata 3 ssd, you will never come back to raid for os drive.

shovenose Jan 22, 2013 02:30 AM

I want to do something like that but with 300GB VelociRaptors and in RAID10

Mussels Jan 22, 2013 03:19 AM

i'd have to agree with the SSD side of the fence here. yes you get less storage space, but at least you're not not limited by having all the drives operating as one.


sure you've got medium-speed and decent capacity... but try doing two file transfers at once and it'll choke like any mechanical drive setup. it cant multitask.

kwikgta Jan 22, 2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jstn7477 (Post 2827742)
I wonder how fast the array would run on an Intel controller or a dedicated enterprise level card. If I remember correctly, a RAID 5 build I did with an Areca 1210 and 4x 500GB WD Blacks did around 340 max/180 min MB/s. Looks like your setup pretty much doubled those.

I've been thinking the same thing, but truth is that I don't know anything about them as far as which one to get.

yogurt_21 Jan 23, 2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mussels (Post 2827799)
i'd have to agree with the SSD side of the fence here. yes you get less storage space, but at least you're not not limited by having all the drives operating as one.


sure you've got medium-speed and decent capacity... but try doing two file transfers at once and it'll choke like any mechanical drive setup. it cant multitask.

yeah atm 2 of these in raid 0 would be cheaper and faster overall.

Mushkin Enhanced Callisto Deluxe MKNSSDCL480GB-DX ...

half the capacity sure, but more consistent speed across the board.

the egg lists the 500gb vraptors at 150 a piece, so 600$ for 4.

kwikgta Jan 23, 2013 03:05 PM

I bought them fron a vendor on ebay for $105 each.

Jizzler Jan 23, 2013 04:03 PM

Very nice. A good amount of space and performance considering what you paid for them.


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Originally Posted by Jstn7477 (Post 2827742)
I wonder how fast the array would run on an Intel controller or a dedicated enterprise level card. If I remember correctly, a RAID 5 build I did with an Areca 1210 and 4x 500GB WD Blacks did around 340 max/180 min MB/s. Looks like your setup pretty much doubled those.

On PCH, I'd guess another ~100MB/s.

drdeathx Jan 23, 2013 04:13 PM

1 drive fails, your done. All the money your spending would get you a beefy SSD with faster access time. Just sayin.

cdawall Jan 23, 2013 04:36 PM

Nothing wrong with a little raid action I had 4 36GB raptors in raid 0 back in the day and currently rock a pair of 32GB SSD's in raid 0. As long as it works it works. Keep the stuff backed up in case a drive croaks and your good, RMA and reimage.

Instead of getting 2 more drives however I would be getting a stand alone raid card, because AMD's raid sucks speaking from experience.

qubit Jan 23, 2013 05:26 PM

Someone posted on YouTube some time back a raid 0 setup with multiple SSDs, something like 10 of them I think. Damn that thing was fast! Booting Windows 7 was near instantaneous and the benchmarks were off the scale.

cdawall Jan 23, 2013 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by qubit (Post 2829024)
Someone posted on YouTube some time back a raid 0 setup with multiple SSDs, something like 10 of them I think. Damn that thing was fast! Booting Windows 7 was near instantaneous and the benchmarks were off the scale.

windows 7 was booting instantly with my pair of SSD's in raid.

EarthDog Jan 23, 2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kwikgta (Post 2827051)
Just installed four 500gig raptors in raid 0 into my rig. I'm very impressed with the outcome.

Nice! But a single two year old SSD will beat that! :eek: :D

Mindweaver Jan 23, 2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx (Post 2828979)
1 drive fails, your done. All the money your spending would get you a beefy SSD with faster access time. Just sayin.

So by that logic 1 drive fail on a SSD, your done as well.. Correct? How much does a 2TB SSD cost? ;)

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Originally Posted by EarthDog (Post 2829119)
Nice! But a single two year old SSD will beat that! :eek: :D

Not by size.. ;)

Now, I'm not saying he wouldn't be better off with a SSD, but how is he going to fit all of his games on a SSD if he's like say cadaveca.. Dave's got a lot of games and maybe this guy does as well. Let's tell him how he can get around limited space on a SSD. He could buy a 2TB drive and a 120 to 240gb SSD and use SteamMover to push games he's playing now to the SSD for those faster load times. :toast: You guys offered good suggestions, but failed to see the reason in having a 4x 500gb RAID0 array, which would be speed and space not just speed. :toast: His RAID0 Array is a nice setup, but once they die then I would grab a SSD and a beefy drive. :toast:

EDIT: Here is one of my SSD's speeds, but only 25% of your space.. lol
OCZ 240GB RevoDrive3 x2

http://img.techpowerup.org/120625/OCZ240gb.jpg

kwikgta Jan 23, 2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx (Post 2828979)
1 drive fails, your done. All the money your spending would get you a beefy SSD with faster access time. Just sayin.

If one drive fails, I am not done. In addition to the raid 0 array that I have my operating system on, I also 6 tb's of external storeage, thus I have backups and backups for the backups. I am going to add 2 more velociraptors to the array for a total of 6. The money is well spent as I have 3 teenagers with computers I built for them, so If and when I decide to go SSD, the kids will get 2 velociraptors each for their computers, installed in raid 0. Look I know that SSD's are the latest and greatest, but I'm just having fun by daring to be different. To each his own.:)

EarthDog Jan 23, 2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindweaver (Post 2829184)
So by that logic 1 drive fail on a SSD, your done as well.. Correct? How much does a 2TB SSD cost? ;)



Not by size.. ;)

Now, I'm not saying he wouldn't be better off with a SSD, but how is he going to fit all of his games on a SSD if he's like say cadaveca.. Dave's got a lot of games and maybe this guy does as well. Let's tell him how he can get around limited space on a SSD. He could buy a 2TB drive and a 120 to 240gb SSD and use SteamMover to push games he's playing now to the SSD for those faster load times. :toast: You guys offered good suggestions, but failed to see the reason in having a 4x 500gb RAID0 array, which would be speed and space not just speed. :toast: His RAID0 Array is a nice setup, but once they die then I would grab a SSD and a beefy drive. :toast:

EDIT: Here is one of my SSD's speeds, but only 25% of your space.. lol
OCZ 240GB RevoDrive3 x2

http://img.techpowerup.org/120625/OCZ240gb.jpg

LOL at those results... that thing needs some work as you are ramping up REALLY slow. Wow. I mean my four year old OCZ Summit was faster that that on the low end, something is wrong there for sure.

Normal speeds: http://www.funkykit.com/component/co...=xhtml&start=5

As you can see your .5-8k are BRUTALLY slow...with the rest very slow.



I get the point of space... and he is right, to each their own. That said, I would have bought a couple of 60GB SSD's and used intel's caching as that would still be faster than a pair of raptors, perhaps 3 even for the specific loads you mention.

Aquinus Jan 23, 2013 09:23 PM

I like my 2x 120GB Corsair Force GTs in RAID-0. They serve me pretty well.
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/at...7&d=1331946395

Mindweaver Jan 23, 2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EarthDog (Post 2829207)
LOL at those results... that thing needs some work as you are ramping up REALLY slow. Wow. I mean my four year old OCZ Summit was faster that that on the low end, something is wrong there for sure.

Normal speeds: http://www.funkykit.com/component/co...=xhtml&start=5

As you can see your .5-8k are BRUTALLY slow...with the rest very slow.



I get the point of space... and he is right, to each their own. That said, I would have bought a couple of 60GB SSD's and used intel's caching as that would still be faster than a pair of raptors, perhaps 3 even for the specific loads you mention.

Aww.. Yea, I had WCG running 100%.. I turned it off and here you go.. ;) A little better. :toast:

http://img.techpowerup.org/130123/NewTest.jpg

Still I think this guys got a solid setup and good speeds with a lot of space. :toast:

EDIT: and I had some Other stuff writing to the drive as well.... lol


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