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JacKz5o Sep 6, 2007 07:07 PM

Dell Reveals Barcelona Performance
 
Barcelona should be available next week and when compared with Intel's Clovertown, Barcelona is 30% faster than Clovertown at floating point instructions. However, at integer instructions, Clovertown is approximately 30% faster than Barcelona. Dell also says they will continue to use AMD processors in their line up to give their customers a variety of choices to choose from.

Source: EETimes

a111087 Sep 6, 2007 07:40 PM

lies! all lies!!! :D

v-zero Sep 6, 2007 07:42 PM

Fantastic!

Ravenas Sep 6, 2007 07:58 PM

Well now Wal-Mart sells Barcelonas too. :laugh:

hat Sep 6, 2007 08:08 PM

sounds about right

DRDNA Sep 6, 2007 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenas (Post 450524)
Well now Wal-Mart sells Barcelonas too. :laugh:

I doubt that very much.

DanTheBanjoman Sep 6, 2007 08:11 PM

Interesting, doesn't even beat Clovertown at integer, and since Clovertown will be replaced soon Barcelona will be too little too late. That is of course, if these numbers are correct.
If Tigerton fixes the memory bottleneck that Clovertown has Barcelona won't stand a chance in the 4+ socket market. Specially once CSI replaces the FSB, AMD better have a nie update coming in that case.

erocker Sep 6, 2007 08:16 PM

There hasn't been ANY real facts about Barcelona since some very early engineering samples were leaked. I can tell you now that there is no way in hell that Clovertown will even beat Barcelona in integer instructions. 30% is absolutely laughable. I'm so sure on this that if this story is actually true I will send Dan the Banjoman ten bucks through paypal.:D

Ravenas Sep 6, 2007 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DRDNA (Post 450539)
I doubt that very much.

Wal-Mart sells Dells, therefore, Wal-Mart will eventually sell Barcelonas.

DanTheBanjoman Sep 6, 2007 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenas (Post 450554)
Wal-Mart sells Dells, therefore, Wal-Mart will eventually sell Barcelonas.

Does Wal-Mart sell Dell servers?

DanTheBanjoman Sep 6, 2007 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker (Post 450553)
There hasn't been ANY real facts about Barcelona since some very early engineering samples were leaked. I can tell you now that there is no way in hell that Clovertown will even beat Barcelona in integer instructions. 30% is absolutely laughable. I'm so sure on this that if this story is actually true I will send Dan the Banjoman ten bucks through paypal.:D

Where do you base that on? I think Dell is more credible that you are.

JacKz5o Sep 6, 2007 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenas (Post 450554)
Wal-Mart sells Dells, therefore, Wal-Mart will eventually sell Barcelonas.

Barcelonas are for servers and Wal-Mart doesn't sell Dell servers ;)

Ravenas Sep 6, 2007 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacKz5o (Post 450584)
Barcelonas are for servers and Wal-Mart doesn't sell Dell servers ;)

True, but can't be bought through Wal-Mart?

JacKz5o Sep 6, 2007 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenas (Post 450598)
True, but can't be bought through Wal-Mart?

Wal-Mart does not sell their servers. Most servers can only be ordered online.

Ravenas Sep 6, 2007 09:06 PM

Oh ok, I've never actually shopped for a Dell at Wal-Mart. I've always been so acustomed to buying them online.

Ben Clarke Sep 6, 2007 09:08 PM

Dell is only sold on-line. It says so on their website, I think. But they definitly only sell online, not in shops.

InnocentCriminal Sep 6, 2007 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker (Post 450553)
There hasn't been ANY real facts about Barcelona since some very early engineering samples were leaked. I can tell you now that there is no way in hell that Clovertown will even beat Barcelona in integer instructions. 30% is absolutely laughable. I'm so sure on this that if this story is actually true I will send Dan the Banjoman ten bucks through paypal.:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman (Post 450569)
Where do you base that on? I think Dell is more credible that you are.

2nd!

Scrizz Sep 6, 2007 09:42 PM

actually dell sells some desktops in wal-marts now

kwchang007 Sep 6, 2007 09:58 PM

Sounds about right...correct me if I'm wrong but a Core 2 to a K8 is about 40% better than K8 at integer instructions. At floating point I believe Core 2 lost to K8 in a margin of 110-20% (not exactly sure). This is just K10 and Core 2 playing at their strengths, Core 2 was a evolution from P3, while K8 has always traditionally been strong at floating point with K10 being a relatively conservative branch out of K8.

tvdang7 Sep 6, 2007 10:13 PM

i dont even know that floating point or integer is..............

InnocentCriminal Sep 6, 2007 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tvdang7 (Post 450705)
i dont even know that floating point or integer is..............

I'm not very clued up on it either, and I suspect someone will be able to explain it in a much better way than I can. But the way I understand the difference is that... with Floating Point(s) it's a string of numbers representing a value. The decimal point in that string of numbers can go anywhere. With an Integer, the decimal point is fixed and cannot be in a different place. Something like that - it's far too complicated for my feeble brain to fathom.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

WarEagleAU Sep 6, 2007 10:46 PM

I wouldnt think it wasnt true, but at least not that huge of a margin and remember, we are talking about servers here folks.

[I.R.A]_FBi Sep 7, 2007 02:04 AM

baloney ....

magibeg Sep 7, 2007 06:12 AM

I guess we'll just have to wait and see until the chips are released to see if this is all real or not... but if i had to bet money i'ld definately say that what we've been seeing is probably true.

IcrushitI Sep 7, 2007 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi (Post 450942)
baloney ....

No thats Barcelony, what nationality are you,you'll have to pronounce it right.:nutkick:


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