8800gts vs 2900 pro all tests made by me
 

u can look the pictures directly from here

http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_18515791/tm.htm

my friend bought saphire 512 mb 2900 pro and i made all tests at my computer

here we go

drivers ati

7.10

nvidia 163.76


well the system settings

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1851/sistemen0.jpg



http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3674/sistemmg5.jpg



Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/re...0&UID=11618220

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2889/defaultig3.jpg

Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/re...0&UID=11624540

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4...defaultcr9.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/re...0&UID=11618310

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5936/oclinc0.jpg


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/re...0&UID=11624784

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9172/3dmarkoclh8.jpg









16x af opened from windows
the settings of bioshock

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3...0059263uc4.jpg



Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9...0101519uw1.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3...0102036mv4.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1...0102141na8.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7...0102263df0.jpg




Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
4443, 60000, 45, 143, 74.050


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4...1358504ol0.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2...1359045pc6.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4...1359216tg5.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4...1359362re5.jpg



Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
4858, 60000, 47, 164, 80.967


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6...0054013tp7.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4...0054136cu3.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5...0054235bh1.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9...0059263nu9.jpg



Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
5739, 60000, 58, 189, 95.650



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044



http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3...1403555er6.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2...1404077kj7.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7...1404375wq5.jpg




Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
5868, 60000, 58, 198, 97.800



dirt game settings

16x af both cards opened from windows

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/118...1151056cw0.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/461...1151448fl7.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5...1165739db4.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7...1180043fj5.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6...1185242ra8.jpg

1 dakikalik test fraps ile

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
1287, 60000, 16, 26, 21.450


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7...4223406no1.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7...4234935qd5.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6...4242790xr4.jpg



1 dakikalik test fraps ile

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
1889, 60000, 25, 37, 31.483



Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999


http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/844...1233840ri4.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5...1241201qg3.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/273...1244390pp1.jpg


1 dakikalik fraps testi

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
1683, 60000, 22, 34, 28.050


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044


http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9...4282773uw0.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4...4285723tj4.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7...4292965iw4.jpg

1 dakikalik fraps testi

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
2196, 60000, 30, 45, 36.600




F.E.A.R settings
windows settings are default


http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4185/fearad6.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/416...1290451jt3.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/897...1291200ci3.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/749...1291518an9.jpg
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7...1292298hm1.jpg
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4...1293371eu3.jpg





Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/913...1415871ok5.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/287...1423492sp8.jpg
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2...1424653wt4.jpg


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850


http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/886...5015568wg0.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7...5024250mr6.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6...5033629mq3.jpg



Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2...1323996jk6.jpg
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9...1383215vt6.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/812...1392298ei2.jpg


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1...5060812tq1.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7...5064759jo9.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/502...5072114ik6.jpg





Gothic 3 settings

Windows settings are default

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6...1511907fe8.jpg



Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/992...1452184gg9.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2...1455740ln8.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/591...1471289gy6.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1...1483698jx1.jpg


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
2209, 60000, 0, 44, 36.817


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7...5105767kk1.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5...5113290io9.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7...5121279ws0.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5...5124295gc0.jpg


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
3620, 60000, 9, 71, 60.333




Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999


http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6...1520939hy3.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3...1524270ci8.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9...1541451ly2.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8...1545362yq4.jpg


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
3014, 60000, 7, 58, 50.233



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/295...5155729pz7.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/124...5162784cx0.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4...5170006yq5.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4...5173204sj8.jpg


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
4269, 60000, 9, 85, 71.150



Half Life 2. episode 2 settings

all windows settings default


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/469...1574510yj1.jpg
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/9...1580250fj5.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1...1591484mm7.jpg
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1...2005720qr5.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/928...2012101yi6.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7...2013923kq0.jpg



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850


http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8...5373834nh5.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7...5381248ms5.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1...5382451qv3.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5...5383939rm5.jpg



Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4...2044532gp6.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9...2051268oi8.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2...2052401wy5.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8...2053518rs2.jpg



Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
2689, 60000, 30, 50, 44.817


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044


http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4...5414859ee0.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8...5421431nb5.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1...5422328xv0.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7...5423304as7.jpg


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
4063, 60000, 50, 78, 67.717


World in conflict settings dx9
windows settings are default

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2...2083282sn7.jpg



Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800


http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1...2100065hc0.jpg


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850


http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/774...7195790rq4.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999


http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2...2114953nk6.jpg



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044


http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/746...7213234vi0.jpg




Time Shift Demo settings

since i couldnt open projected shadows at 2900 pro i didnt open at 8800gts too


http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3...0022609gc0.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7...0022615sw2.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4...0022619yj2.jpg



Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800


http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5...0022835wi9.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1...0022849cy6.jpg


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/566...0170842gl5.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1...0170842ve0.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999


http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4...0023430my6.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8...0023435cr1.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3...0023556lz4.jpg



Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
2587, 60000, 35, 70, 43.117



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044


http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8...0171253ad8.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/197...0171334vi7.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9...0171417hl2.jpg



Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
3940, 60000, 44, 97, 65.667



Strangle Hold Settings

windows settings not default 16x af forced at both cards


http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7...ld20071ru5.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3...ld20071mg7.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9...ld20071ls6.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8...ld20071km6.jpg




Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
5348, 60000, 64, 131, 89.133



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850


http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4...ld20071pe6.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5...ld20071dq3.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1...ld20071nu6.jpg


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
5307, 60000, 58, 144, 88.450


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/705...ld20071dq0.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1...ld20071ch4.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/192...ld20071fz6.jpg




Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
7664, 60000, 90, 201, 127.733



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044


http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2...ld20071aq1.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3...ld20071vu6.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1...ld20071cy4.jpg


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
5914, 60000, 66, 164, 98.567


Pain killer overdose settings
no af opened from windows
all settings default

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7...1020031pj3.jpg






Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8...1020031zu7.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4...1020032wq8.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2...1020032oq8.jpg




Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
4258, 60000, 41, 148, 70.967



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2...1020163bp1.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3...1020163vy2.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6...1020163oc3.jpg





Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
6048, 60000, 62, 153, 100.800




Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999



http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2...1020032qt5.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9...1020032cj5.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3...1020032gr4.jpg


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
5457, 60000, 49, 185, 90.950



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044


http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1...1020163vp0.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/622...1020163zj6.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/541...1020163gb9.jpg


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
6303, 60000, 58, 143, 105.050



Medal of honour airborne settings
16x af opened from windows

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3341/ayarnh5.jpg

Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5...3381268gx2.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9...3381784zx0.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7...3393939bw9.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5...3430512nw3.jpg



Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
4954, 60000, 56, 112, 82.567


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850


http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8...6054810ir2.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/162...6055153qt0.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1...6071510mh8.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/644...6104693ff8.jpg

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
4924, 60000, 60, 118, 82.067


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6...3302112uk3.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/436...3314339pa9.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1...3351364ea1.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1...3445807qc0.jpg


Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
6128, 60000, 62, 147, 102.133


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044



http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/336...6174150ec9.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9...6174659pb0.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8...6190903qy4.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3...6224068tz9.jpg



Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
5757, 60000, 64, 139, 95.950



Oblivion settings

16x af opened from windows at both card

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1...0423467zr6.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3...0423526iw5.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4...0423565hr3.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1...0423596sr6.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800


http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1...0426426yt5.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2...0433558sa3.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8...0437555ym4.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7...0439203nm6.jpg


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850


http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7...1627436on0.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9...1627535ed6.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7...1628151jf7.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/571...1628230nj6.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999


http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2...0441017bw7.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1...0441136km2.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7...0441300qk7.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8...0441416uh0.jpg


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044


http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3...1625150gn4.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/993...1625262rg7.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/834...1625505za3.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6...1626491nd4.jpg





Hel gate london settings

no af opened from windows
windows settings are default

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/269...9x86200rc9.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800


http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9...9x86200fe1.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1...9x86200bq1.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3...9x86200ag8.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/706...9x86200ll2.jpg



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7...9x86200bi3.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1...9x86200mj0.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4...9x86200td2.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3...9x86200zw9.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2...9x86200rk5.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4...9x86200ex7.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4...9x86200cv0.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1...9x86200ty0.jpg



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044


http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2...9x86200tz5.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4...9x86200oz7.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9...9x86200it0.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4...9x86200en8.jpg


Lost planet settings

all windows settings are default

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/277...7102015qp1.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2...7102015ch7.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800



http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7...7102004hu7.jpg


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850


http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/3...7102015ls4.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1...7102005yl4.jpg


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6...7102016bm6.jpg


Call of Duty 4 settings

all windows settings are default

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5...5200446zv2.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1...5200667el4.jpg


Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @600/800


http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4...5155631cb0.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6...5172614xn5.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1...5173690kg9.jpg

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
1885, 60000, 27, 38, 31.417


Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 575/1350/850

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9...0462832ge1.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5...0470257rn4.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2...0472557af5.jpg




Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
2468, 60000, 34, 60, 41.133

Saphire 512 mb 2900 pro @800/999

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5...5202465wf0.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2...5210695sy3.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4...5215781pg9.jpg




Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
2341, 60000, 32, 47, 39.017



Msi 8800 gts oc edition 320mb @ 648/1620/1044

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3...0372146ln2.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7...0374703lz0.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9...0381978fq0.jpg




Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
2741, 60000, 38, 77, 45.683



best mmorpg online Pokemon Game PokemonCraft

first complete all region Pokedex

Using that processor really bottlenekcs the gpu though but it really shows the difference of the two cards. Nice.

what cpu should i use

it is faster than all dual core cpus at the market(of course default values)

3195 mhz

and i dont thinks so higher values make much difference expect 3d mark tests :nutkick:

Use the highest possible stable FSB, that will reduce bottlenecks to a minimum.

Was there a reason for not testing the ATI card at same higher CPU core speed as the Nvidia card (as shown in your first set of pics)?

well cpu get the idle mod at that moment

but if u look the 3d mark scores u see the cpu scores same

doesn't matter that the cpu scored the same, that was solely on the cpu tests, it was still most likely bottlenecking at least at times during the graphics tests

the first thing I noticed with this test as well was the processor, the reason to use a very high end processor in comparisons such as these is to attempt to make the test as objective as possible, reducing the possibility of a cpu bottleneck to as close to nil as possible

therefore using a highly overclocked quad core for a comparison like this would've been the most favorable choice

well i am not totaly agree with you

i dont think so it wont make much more difference

beacuse most of the games cant use quad core very well

He has a point

doesn't matter, it takes the guesswork out of it and makes the comparison as objective as can be

Interesting and good work.

I've been asking for a comparison akin to this for the HD 2900XT and the GTS 640Mb for sometime. There are plenty of reviews out there that compare the two cards and not at their max air OC.

those tests made at stok coolings

Thank you, I've been waiting for this type of benchmark. :-)

And, to all the bashers, what the hell.. He said "made by me", and this does reflect a real world test at least, so what is with all the hate? It shows that with this processor at these settings, this is what you can expect, and that the 8800 GTS oc outperforms the 2900 pro at least at this level.

You misread something.. His 8800 GTS is not a 640 mb card. It's the 320 mb card. So the 8800 GTS OC 320 mb card has a disadvantage, less memory on the card.

The HD2900 Pro Is being majorly bottelnecked, the higher the clock of the cpu, the better the performance of the HD2900 Pro. Also you can overclock the HD2900 Pro a lot more depending on the clock speed of your CPU. So although I am glad the two are being compared, I don't think its fair having the HD2900 Pro running with a 1.8Ghz(2) processor.

Very nice effort, I truely mean that. But the higher the CPU overclock, the better the benchmark scores, period. I also agree that these cards are not meant for low end CPU's and just get faster and faster with higher clocks.

Here is a bench for you can your 8800 gts 320 match this.
 

http://img.techpowerup.org/071021/clock.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/071021/3dmark06.jpg


just kidding of course This just goes to show you how much a GPU depends on the CPU My gpu was at 870/2380 stable 24/7

Ignore most of these people, this is a very useful and thorough comparison.

For all of you complaining about the CPU, you're all full of shit! A 3.2ghz C2D will not "bottleneck" these upper-mid-range cards. This comparison is completely valid and very useful.

Thanks for your contribution cefurkan!

Man I'm just confused why he has his CPU at 3.1ghz with the Nvidia and with the ATI he has 2.1ghz. Unless I am reading those pics wrong I don't get that. Also don't get me wrong I am not trying to dis this guy or anyone else, just that I want it to be accurate thats all.

He explained (he tried at least, and I understood from experience). He has SpeedStep turned on. His PC was idling when he took that shot, so the multi on the CPU was dropped by three, hence the lower core speed. As soon as he kicked into the game tests the CPU would have gone back to 9x355...

Oh, I beg to differ that point ALOT. There was a HUGE difference in 3.3 and 3.4GHZ for me. Like a near 500 point increase in 05 and 06, not to mention a nice boost in frame rate.

I don't care. At this point the change is linear for both, hence fair test.

But it's obvious that the 8800GTS wins with a lesser powered CPU, but when you get higher clock speeds, then the 2900 pro wins out.

Thank you for finaly saying it.

Yes, the 8800 does have special CPU enhancing powers akin to a Jedi in GPU form, in that it saps this extra power from "the force" when on a low-end CPU, but as soon as it gets to a high-end part it says to itself "fuck this shit, I'm gonna lay back and let you do the work now". Whereas the 2900 is essentially vampiric, able immediately to cripple a low-end CPU with it's massive metaphorical fangs, but when faced with a high-end CPU it suddenly stops attempting to kill its compatriot and plays super-GPU.


That, by the by, was sarcasm. What are you on?