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LAN_deRf_HA Sep 9, 2010 08:17 PM
A bit of both. I saw a number of reviews that tested with it exhausting and placed two fans on the H50 as well, so based on that I got a good idea as to what temp difference I should expect to see going from the H50 to the H70 using my fan setup on both. The difference was less than expected based on those comparisons. It seems there was a gap between theory and practice.

sneekypeet Sep 9, 2010 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA (Post 2020690)
A bit of both. I saw a number of reviews that tested with it exhausting and placed two fans on the H50 as well, so based on that I got a good idea as to what temp difference I should expect to see going from the H50 to the H70 using my fan setup on both. The difference was less than expected based on those comparisons. It seems there was a gap between theory and practice.
Ok I can understand that. From what I gathered, and my testing showed, it is better but only slightly more efficient.

LAN_deRf_HA Sep 9, 2010 08:22 PM
I'd consider trying intake, but I really worry I'm going to be exhaust limited. I only have a 120 at the top, not counting the psu. Doesn't help my card dumps it all into the case.

sneekypeet Sep 9, 2010 08:24 PM
In Her BitFenix there is a top fan, and while I feel a ton of that heat coming out of there, my cards dont feel one degree of that;)

grunt_408 Sep 9, 2010 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA (Post 2020640)
Not great. Quieter than my venom push pull for the same perf. Absolutely nothing can keep my i7 cool at this speed it seems. The H50 fails, all idle at the same temp. My fan arrangement for the H50/70 is one high speed on exhaust. Dual fans makes it loud enough to defeat the point of water, intake is a moronic heat dump that's not even an option. Most reviewers didn't even test it. While I've seen these things stay stable at 102c it really bugs me seeing mine up to 95c, even if it is stable. Yes I've tried all sorts of crazy case fan stuff to make sure it isn't from bad ambient or dead air flow, it's not. Re-seating always brings the same temps. All I can figure is it's my chip. Looking around I've seen a lot of people topping out in the 80s, but I see a few always in the 90s. I guess I'm one of those few.
That is kind of how I felt after I changed from IFX-14 to a H50 and temps got worse. So I cracked it and done a loop.:laugh:

sneekypeet Sep 9, 2010 09:10 PM
In my humble opinion, any of the AIO water coolers are not for the extremists. They are geared for the mid range clockers who either cant afford full on water but like the clean look, or those who dont have the room for a full tower.

mlee49 Sep 9, 2010 09:13 PM
Amen to that Sneeky.

LAN_deRf_HA Sep 9, 2010 09:19 PM
I reversed the the fan and interestingly it only the had the effect of slowing the temperature increase at load, same ultimate temp. With every cooler I've tried I end up with about the same top heat load. It's like this chip saturates everything beyond reason. I'd really love to try a different i7 sometime to see if this thing really is just high on the leakage.

DanishDevil Sep 9, 2010 09:25 PM
Or you could save up for a proper watercooling system :)

Reventon Sep 9, 2010 09:27 PM
For people like mlee. Very nice rig, m.

LAN_deRf_HA Sep 9, 2010 09:28 PM
I'm going to try one more thing, adding the higher speed fan to do push pull. If that doesn't do it when it's 100% by the book I'm going to be at a loss. As for proper water.. it might be cheaper to just get a better chip, not to mention less work.

grunt_408 Sep 9, 2010 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA (Post 2020749)
I'm going to try one more thing, adding the higher speed fan to do push pull. If that doesn't do it when it's 100% by the book I'm going to be at a loss. As for proper water.. it might be cheaper to just get a better chip, not to mention less work.
If you feel like doing some modding I found this . Could be interesting.

DanishDevil Sep 9, 2010 09:55 PM
Looks like the diameter tubing and amount of fluid in the system are two bottlenecks for the cooler. Good find.

sneekypeet Sep 9, 2010 09:57 PM
Issue is the H70 doesnt mount tubes to the head in the same fashion. The H70 has 90* fittings in the side now:(

LAN_deRf_HA Sep 9, 2010 10:20 PM
Whhhaaattt??? Adding a second fan dropped the temp 10c. Must be a pressure issue getting through that thick rad.

sneekypeet Sep 9, 2010 10:21 PM
;) Told ya it was designed to use two fans

grunt_408 Sep 9, 2010 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DanishDevil (Post 2020797)
Looks like the diameter tubing and amount of fluid in the system are two bottlenecks for the cooler.
Yeah for sure. You can see when dye was added that the pump easily copes with that set up.:toast:

LAN_deRf_HA Sep 9, 2010 10:30 PM
Now I just need a nice radial sticker to cover the crappy one on the flip side of my fan. The spiral strut look on the back is kinda cool though.

Edit* Peeled a sticker off another fan.

grunt_408 Sep 9, 2010 11:07 PM
Trying all sorts at the moment with my H50 to see what yeilds best temps for my situation.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...y/IMG_0620.jpg
Two fans exhaust at front. About to spin them around and get the load temp difference.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...y/IMG_0623.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...y/IMG_0622.jpg

LAN_deRf_HA Sep 9, 2010 11:16 PM
Having it blow in really does effect ambient. My gpu idles 5c higher now.

cadaveca Sep 9, 2010 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA (Post 2020886)
Having it blow in really does effect ambient. My gpu idles 5c higher now.
That's what I found. Then I added the Coolit tec unit, and that dropped coolant temps lower than ever, and this LOWERED case temps.


I've using the H70 now...so much better than H50...but I think I'm gonna pipe the H70 and H50 together...

pantherx12 Sep 10, 2010 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA (Post 2020749)
I'm going to try one more thing, adding the higher speed fan to do push pull. If that doesn't do it when it's 100% by the book I'm going to be at a loss. As for proper water.. it might be cheaper to just get a better chip, not to mention less work.
Don't add higher speed fans, have you tried using gentle typhoons ( 1850rpm ones) they're the king when it comes to radiators.

LAN_deRf_HA Sep 10, 2010 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by pantherx12 (Post 2020959)
Don't add higher speed fans, have you tried using gentle typhoons ( 1850rpm ones) they're the king when it comes to radiators.
No, never had any luck with scythe. Ceasing up or spitting out oil all over shit. And by higher speed I just meant the one from the kit. I guess I should have just said higher noise, my CM R4 is the same rpm but a lot quieter.

Observation about this intake setup; after 30 minutes stressing temps are rising slowly after the case becomes saturated. Probably because the rad is inside the case. It's like an easy bake oven in there right now.

pantherx12 Sep 10, 2010 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA (Post 2020982)
No, never had any luck with scythe. Ceasing up or spitting out oil all over shit. And by higher speed I just meant the one from the kit. I guess I should have just said higher noise, my CM R4 is the same rpm but a lot quieter.

Observation about this intake setup; after 30 minutes stressing temps are rising slowly after the case becomes saturated. Probably because the rad is inside the case. It's like an easy bake oven in there right now.
Bad times : [

Perhaps some other fans that aim for high static pressure instead, don't know of many TBH D:

I found a mass review for the best radiator fans but have no idea where I saw it : /

Perhaps someone else has seen it too?

LAN_deRf_HA Sep 10, 2010 01:40 AM
I know there's a lot of high pressure fat fans but they won't fit with the normal screws. I dread the idea of having to swap out that corsair fan, was so hard lining up those screws, holding the fan and the rad. Needed 4 hands.

Edit* Nvm, this comes with long screws. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/90...?tl=g36c15s932


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