[CDdude55]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Yeah, I get it. Like i said, it's not anything "personal".

But at the same time...

Companies don't need people to defend them. Really, as a business, thier job is to get the most cash they can for htier products, so in essence, are screwing us all over. there's no good position when you side with that.

And that seems to be a big part of the market today...Both the 6-series and this GTX580 scream of being products introduced exactly along that line...

TSMC's process is really gonna limit what these businesses can bring to the table. Both the 6970, and the GTX580, are completely wasteful products...noone, really, should be buying them.

So when you defend a product like this...well...do you get where I'm going?

I'm quite openly an ATI fanboy. Even though I have nvidia high-end cards, I just plain and simple won't even talk about them. But even so, I'm quite clearly not defending ATI with any of thier products...quite the opposite, in fact.

All of these products are full of fail. ATi's side has Eyefinity, and after a year of using it, I can truly say it's garbage. Some people are happy with it, but myself, I cannot play games @ 30FPS.

So this card, might be enough, in a pair, to meet my needs. But...this card is gonna suck power like a hoover, and frankly, I think my hoover actually uses less than this card will.

Keep in mind, im not trying to defend them or anyone, of course they have marketing and are backed up my tons of cash to do the bidding for them.

But i see what you're saying.