So I was mostly right when I said we could expect around 10% better clocks at most than on the engineering sample. And it's pretty clear they are doing some very tight binning to do so, if we consider the second and 3rd chips are clocked so low, even below the ES, 500 Mhz difference with the top one is a very big difference. Yield issues can almost be taken as granted too.
Sorry to sound negative, but I'm just being realistic. AMD will have some solid products at good prices with these, but in no way capable to compete with Intel head on, if Intel does not want to, at least. And of course, like in the past few years the reality is that Intel will continue to price their CPUs too high (compared to what they could or should be "fair") because they have no competition. Only as low as required to be or look like a better deal than AMD's.
Sigh. Let's hope that AMD can at least fix it in a few months, kind of like Nvidia did with GF110 or if AMD manages an improvement akin to what they did with Phenom II, there's at least some hope. BD is not right there (quite far yet), but it's closer to compete with Intel's best than Phenom and P2 ever were.
PS: I'm going to buy some popcorn. Need to be prepared before seronx joins in and starts his own damage control campaign.