[Steven B]

lol its ok, I mean people have to open their eyes some time right? A trip to HWbot might enlighten some people lol.

I mean I do understand where they are coming from. I mean if you goto OCN it is the same 90% are practical and 10% are extreme, for them it isn't an OC unless it is on all cores and all threads and prime95 or IBT stable, but that stability has to run for days, and they want to check your temps too just be sure. lol. Sometimes it is so different how different overclockers are, and what they deem to actually be an overclock. Of course then you can goto the benching sections and cooling sections of the same forum and 90% will be privy benchers and 10% will be those who want to learn. Personally I didn't really care for the extreme stuff, I mean yea i had a phase change until years back, but when i started doing LN2 that is when the real fun starts, you get a sense of satisfaction that someone who hasn't done it doesn't understand. You also begin to realize how much more this sport has to offer. Then you gotta learn OS optimization and software tweaks, and then you gotta learn what benchmarks like what OS and what hardware levels. Highest clock isn't always best, and that is hard to understand for many, someone with 100mhz less could kick your ass easily if you don't know what you are doing. Don't forget it isn't easy to control a CPU with a Cold Bug and a Cold boot bug, you have to pour so easily, you have to use different pots for different CPUs. You also gotta learn the secrets, like what thermal paste really works best, and it isn't artic ceramique.

After you have lost a few CPUs, and you don't know why, you thought it might have been voltage or it might have been the board, then you learn oh you aren't supposed to screw down the pot that hard. Then you are like damn i just messed up a lot of money, but you come out a bit smarter. Of course you had some fun too.