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Old Mar 23, 2012, 01:33 AM   #53
Andy77
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Originally Posted by MikeMurphy View Post
This is wrong. The video memory is typically user selectable. My a75m-ud2h was set to 1gb.
Big words... for such a small reply.

I'm partially correct. It all depends on the mainboard and BIOS. The ASRock a75ex6 doesn't allow for more than 512 MB and this limit has been in place for a long long time on a lot of other integrated graphics mainboards. I suppose a manufacturer can go out of spec and increase that value if it codes its own BIOS. No fault if it does so, but for the system in question, both are missing 512MB from the total RAM rounded to a typical number.

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Originally Posted by mastrdrver View Post
That is not a fact but an assumption. Since they did not clock Llano and Trinity the same, it's impossible to tell if the IPC went up, down, or stayed the same......or as you put it achieved "normal IPC". What ever that means.
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Originally Posted by Dent1 View Post
What is a normal IPC? I googled "Normal IPC" and I couldnt find anything!

Who are you to decide what a "normal IPC" is?
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Originally Posted by faramir View Post
w00tL0L ??? Spare us the nonsense if you don't know what you're talking about.

I didn't know TPU forum has such sensitive... guys. If I can call you that.
You might want to try replying with some maturity if you want a decent reply.

It was a mistake on my part... I was thinking at IPS and wrote IPC, even if it wasn't to far off of the meaning.

Each product is placed on the level at which it is marketed based on TDP. From there they refine the placement based on slight clock differences. What I'm saying is that for the same TDP or lower the Trinity based APU can clock higher than the Llano APU, at the same TDP level. In the binning process, the Trinity APU meets the desired parameters for the product placement at a higher clock, where in the same process the Llano only met them at a lower clock. That's what I've meant by "normal" IPS, a relative performance to it's place among the other products after binning. And this is not "speculation" or "me being someone", it's how chips are placed. Those of the Trinity chips which won't support the clocks above will be get lower clocks, IPS drops, and will be placed in a lower category of products.

My point: Complaining about the A10 being higher clocked than the A8 has no real meaning... other than complaining.

@Dent1, the evidence is in BD's benchmarks, which PD is based on, unless they redid a 5 year old uarch over night /s. Lower the clocks and see it barely catching up to it's older brother. And try to use your common sense more, instead of GoOgle.

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