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Old Oct 17, 2012, 05:21 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by HumanSmoke View Post
logic would dictate that the best GK 110's are destined to end up as Tesla/Quadro parts, which would leave the GeForce parts as either salvage and/or high leakage parts. In either event I wouldn't expect the GTX 780 to be widely available, which is why the pricing is a head scratcher. GTX 780 (GK 110) @ $550 (or more, depending on % of full die)
That’s going to be the question… has TSMC got their process to the point that makes parts that are viable to gaming enthusiasts and not out of bounds on power. I think with geldings from Tesla and a more tailored second gen boost mapping this is saying they can, but I would say it not $550. Something tells me these will all be as GTX690’s, Nvidia only outing a singular design and construction as a factory release.

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Originally Posted by iO View Post
I just don't believe these performance increase claims. They gonna double the transistor count but won´t get even 50% more speed. GK110 will be highly optimised for DP computing.
GK110 will definately shine in some selected benchmarks but there will be a lot of die area that won´t be touched by even the latest games.
Big Kepler just makes no sense as a gaming card. Huge die size, huge power consumption and a huge pricetag. GK114 might de worth waiting for...
Nvidia can minimize the shortcoming, and exhort the virtues to attain a card that enthusiasts will exculpate, just to exclaim its presence in the market exclaiming how great thou art! (for $600 and a 280W TDP)

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Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper View Post
they were conservative in order to get better yields essentially most chips yes can do 1050 but not all can at the proper voltage or TDP level, they also have to harvest chips for the 7950 lower clocks meant more chips more usable chips means greater volume to put on store shelves.

Regardless the refresh will probably see Nvidia take the lead but not by a whole lot they have more room to play when it comes to TDP than AMD does right now.
I think it was always a TSMC issue that caused both their woe's, but yes GK104 once Nvidia got good stuff surprise themselves as to what could be wrung out, but they had to use Boost to insure they wouldn't have chip committing Hari Kari. This time around boost theyll get more aggressive and tolerate to heat and power, so that's where the gains will really come from, but will effectively quell any OC’n.
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