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Originally Posted by Widjaja
I often wonder if some of these alleged voltage and over clock results coinciding with low temperatures and 100% stability are nerd trolls attempting to make other nerds feel bad about the meager overclock they are getting and much higher temperature results.
I know all hard ware is capable of different overclocking capabilities there's a lot out there which makes me think BS.
I remember my Brother was a hard core over clocker and this admin on the forum he went to listed his CPU overclock higher than his in the system specs.
My Brother then asked the guy who he had replies from in the past, how he achieved the overclock and did not respond. 
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Right. Honestly, I think this happens less today than it did say 5 years ago, but yeah, I am sure it's still common practice for many. Simply put, I don't care if anyone has a faster rig than I do, I don't compete is the "pro" overclocking circles, and only want to ensure that everyone enjoys their PCs.
I think, part of the problem is that extreme users, who only benchmark, have very different requirements for voltages and such for benchmarking, than is required for 24/7 operation. Many people will read these extreme guys, looking for tips to get more out of their systems, and then try what those guys do, not realizing that thing are very different sub-zero vs ambient. There is very much some art left to running a system at sub-zero, let me tell you.
Over the years, I've learned which guys in the extreme scene to listen to, seen who influences who, and learned who works for what companies. In nearly every instance, those guys running extreme clocks work for one company or another, or their close friends do. I ahte to say it, but it's only these guys I ever pay any attention to, and even then, everything is taken with a grain of salt, or two.
That said, this then also rolls into this situation in this thread.
The OP has a cooler recommended by many, but when he runs heavy loads, it appears to be inadequate. For stress-testing, sure, you bet it is, but normal loads...like gaming, it should be fine. If not, it's due to either a high-leakage chip, or a bad TIM job under the IHS.
Not many understand that 3770k @ 4.5 GHz, usually pulls around 100W only, so cooling such is actually far easier than most imagine. Watercooling is very much a waste on this platform.
90C is fine for 3570k, at prime, with that cooler. There's no need for any alarm here, at all.