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Originally Posted by Mussels
the athlon 64 was the great one, the athlon XP was merely 'good' (barton aside, they ran damned hot. this WAS pre-prescott remember)
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Originally Posted by Mussels
I still have a few 478 P4's around, and price was indeed the key. AMD was faster per MHz (but they didnt OC to well til the bartons), and intel cranked the prices up for no real reason.
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wrong and wrong.
first the tbird and palimino cores ran HOT AS HELL, the tbred-A cores ran warm but not super hot, they did not oc well.
the tbred-b cores overclocked like banshees, the 1700+ was the most popular athlon xp ever made for that reasion, u could take it to 2.3+ with ease using air cooling.
the barton 2500 was 2nd most popular overclockers chip, well the unlocked version was anyway
as to heat, the tbird wasnt super hot, it was the first athlon socketA, it was at least in my exp on par with intels chips for heat, problem was the stock coolers amd gave out where the suq and intel was giving out larger ones.
the palimino chips(first XP's) where hot suckers, i got a 1900+ here that puts out the btu's like a p4 preshot!!!!.
the k8 was not a huge step from the k7 really, the design was very simlar when it came to core, just some refinments and onboard memory controler, the sse unit was updated(thank god) but really clock for clock they where VERY close.
im an old skool amd user, i have owned intels to be sure, infact a short list of my systems.
amd 386dx40@50mhz+cyrex math unit
intel 486dx66
cyrex something
amd 5x86 133@166
amd k6 266
idt winchip 240@350
intel 233mmx@300
amd k6-2 450@550
dual celeron 466@8**mhz
p3 copper mine 550e@733
duron600@866
tbird 1gz(got it free)
athlon xp 1700+ at 2.3gz (tbred-b)
athlon xp 2600+ at 2.3(barton)
athlon64 3000+@2.65gz(newcastle, good oc for a newcastle to!!)
athlon64 3700+@2.65(replacement for one of the 2 3000+ i had that died, it was a cg clawhammer 1mb cache chip)
both above where 754 chips.
a64 3500+@2.95 (am2)
a64 4000+@2.95(am2 x2)
i also had a couple diffrent p4's i got as tradeins or was given in that time, i was never impressed witht he perf of any of the p4 systems i setup, infact i was much less then impressed by the EE system i setup for a buddy the ONLY thing it was good for was encoding, good thing thats what he wanted it for.
basickly i have owned or setup damn neer anything x86 you can find
oh and i have owned to dec alpha systems one was a packard bell dual 500 system!!!(only packard bell that didnt suck ass!!!)
worst system i ever saw, those 423 p4's with pc133 ram........they made me want to cry......still do really.....