[trog100]

its all right dreaming about new fancy effects.. but it takes a lot of grunt to run em.. i can cripple my x1900xtx card as it is never mind running hdr and aa together.. i did some comparing in oblivion last night and prefered bloom and aa to hdr anyways.. the perfomance seemed about the same between the two options..

as for running the pair of em together.. "in yer dreams" is my comment..

and as for looking at the 2006 canyon run and comparing it with the 2005 canyon run.. well thats another "in yer dreams".. there aint a system on the planet that could actually use effects like that to any extent and maintain playable frame rates and there aint likley to be for another two bloody years..

it works like this.. along comes the "theoretically" possible effects.. along comes a new 3d mark to show em off.. two years later along comes a system powerfull enough to make use of em.. he he he

still i will download the patch even i i wont be able to use it.. he he he

trog

ps.. hdr isnt available in oblivion with the x800 cards.. it is with the x1000 series.. not as it will do u much good unless u have a pretty top end one.. not having it and not having sm3 does have certain fps advantages.. it aint all downside..